Hi everyone,
By mistake I made the comment that  Chaparral was effective against apple
suckers, I should have said, "Chateau" is effective. Sorry about the
mix-up...

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
> My Chaparral label does mention apple. I don't have access to the label
> at the moment, but I will in a few days. This herbicide is also very
> effective in weed control in your strips. I now spray once with Chaparral
> and maybe once with roundup rather than 4-6 times with roundup. (per
> season) I'm sure if you contact Dow they will fill you in. I'll get a
> chance to read my label and get back to you in a few days. Also, consider
> Paraquat. This is a very effective material for sucker burn down. I think
> Paraquat is also labeled for apple.
> Hugh
>
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 12:05 PM, David A. Rosenberger <da...@cornell.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>  Hello, Hugh —
>>
>>  I was interested in your comment about controlling apple root suckers
>> with Chaparral herbicide because root suckers have become a major headache
>> in some of our older research plots.  However, when I checked the Chaparral
>> label on the CDMS website, I can’t find any label that includes apples. Do
>> you have a special state label for apples, or were you thinking of a
>> different herbicide?
>>
>>  The Chaparral labels that I found indicate that it is not registered at
>> all in NY (no big surprise), but I’m still curious about products that
>> might be used for chemical control of root suckers in other states.
>> However, given all of the warnings on the Chaparral label about long-term
>> residual effects, even in hay from treated fields, I’m wondering about
>> long-term side effects on apples even if it were labeled.
>>
>>  On Jan 1, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Steven,
>> This is off point, but as an aside, I have found suckers (Bud 9) to
>> weaken when sprayed with the herbicide Chaparral. This is a pre emergent
>> but is labeled for suckers on apple. The effect is a severe weakening of
>> the sucker roots and they are very easy to pull a couple of weeks after the
>> spray. This is only anecdotal evidence and my personal experience.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Steven Bibula <sbib...@maine.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Is there any information on the long term value of pre-planting sucker
>>> reduction?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On some apple (and peach) rootstocks that arrive from the nursery, I
>>> have seen what appear to be cream-colored, corm-like ‘nodes’ at various
>>> locations on the roots themselves as well as the lower portions of the
>>> central portion; these all pop off relatively freely when wiggled.  I have
>>> also seen suckers up to a few inches long as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Are these nodes the origination points of future sucker growth, or just
>>> suckers that are already on their way?  Do suckering rootstocks simply
>>> sucker from almost anywhere along their buried material, from dormant
>>> sucker buds scattered all over?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For sucker control over the life of the planting, is there any benefit
>>> to manually removing these nodes and growing suckers?  Or would that only
>>> reduce the suckering for the spring of the planting year?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am planning to plant a lot of heavily-suckering Bud 9 and B.9/MM.111,
>>> and if long term benefits of removing these nodes are worth the one-time
>>> effort before planting, then I will do the work.  The hardest suckers to
>>> control are the ones right up next to the trunk, and any permanent sucker
>>> reduction would be nice on these heavily suckering rootstocks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hope someone has done the research and is willing to educate ignorant
>>> folk such as I.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Grateful in advance,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Bibula
>>>
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