Another way to reduce N is to grow grass under the trees and mow and bag the grass and haul the grass clippings away. Sounds labor intensive but hot so bad if you use a commercial mower.
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 6:47 AM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> wrote: > We are trying some hard-cider blends with them Mo. > > Art > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:53 PM, maurice tougas < > appleman.maur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> "JuicyGold". >> >> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Shoemaker, William H < >> wshoe...@illinois.edu> wrote: >> >>> What region did you observe the Morren's Jonagored Supra on B9 Jon? Can >>> you say something about chilling requirement for that cultivar? I think >>> Jonagold is an excellent apple for fresh eating. If the New England Apple >>> Association wants to brand it, I think they are making a good choice. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> *William H. Shoemaker * >>> >>> *Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist* >>> >>> *University of Illinois* >>> >>> wshoe...@illinois.edu >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net [ >>> apple-crop-boun...@virtualorchard.net] on behalf of Jon Clements [ >>> jon.cleme...@umass.edu] >>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2016 4:56 PM >>> *To:* Apple-crop discussion list >>> *Subject:* Re: [apple-crop] apple size >>> >>> Root pruning: YES >>> Withhold nitrogen: YES >>> Minimize dormant pruning, do some summer pruning (but don't remove >>> fruit): YES >>> Use Apogee: YES >>> Over-crop: YES maybe, but use NAA and/or Ethrel to promote return bloom >>> development >>> Use B.9 rootstock (as opposed to M.9): YES >>> Make sure you have enough variety to pollinate: YES >>> >>> I found Morren's Jonagored Supra (Willow Drive) grown on B.9 rootstock >>> to be a very nice Jonagold strain. Good crops without too many large fruit. >>> Still have to watch biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a >>> heartbeat if I want Jonagold. >>> >>> Did you hear New England Apple Association is going to brand Jonagold >>> apples grown in New England? Not sure, however, what they are calling it? >>> >>> Any other ideas out there? >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Hugh Thomas <hughthoma...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep running and large >>>> disk. Just a thought... >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas <kol...@frontier.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Art: >>>>> >>>>> I don’t know whence the observations or measurements >>>>> have come, but I saw a rootstock comparison >>>>> in which G202 was said to produce “smaller fruit size.” For >>>>> the reason you mention, I hope this is true, and of >>>>> more than just statistical significance. I suspect that if it >>>>> were a practical difference, we would have heard more >>>>> about it. >>>>> >>>>> David Kollas >>>>> Kollas Orchard, Connecticut >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Arthur Kelly <kellyorcha...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Any suggestions out there for how to reduce fruit size without >>>>> getting into biennial bearing as in not thinning? Some varieties >>>>> (Jonagold) would be more marketable if they were 2.75 - 3.0" instead of >>>>> all >>>>> more than 3.0". >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Art Kelly >>>>> > Kelly Orchards >>>>> > Acton, ME >>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>> > apple-crop mailing list >>>>> > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >>>>> > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__virtualorchard.net_mailman_listinfo_apple-2Dcrop&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=1ejiT2NQyeKzdraKv8xrAbS0Mb4hB-tICIci2skuNv8&m=Hqq9Z6y5B9TNZ_9uOOp_yPhDCrjsh2nAbw-m9OO3M3s&s=V2zkAU1v4QS4CuU-kRUNoAnna22k1wBv9M-ekLVvzyE&e=> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> apple-crop mailing list >>>>> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >>>>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__virtualorchard.net_mailman_listinfo_apple-2Dcrop&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=1ejiT2NQyeKzdraKv8xrAbS0Mb4hB-tICIci2skuNv8&m=Hqq9Z6y5B9TNZ_9uOOp_yPhDCrjsh2nAbw-m9OO3M3s&s=V2zkAU1v4QS4CuU-kRUNoAnna22k1wBv9M-ekLVvzyE&e=> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> apple-crop mailing list >>>> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >>>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__virtualorchard.net_mailman_listinfo_apple-2Dcrop&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=1ejiT2NQyeKzdraKv8xrAbS0Mb4hB-tICIci2skuNv8&m=Hqq9Z6y5B9TNZ_9uOOp_yPhDCrjsh2nAbw-m9OO3M3s&s=V2zkAU1v4QS4CuU-kRUNoAnna22k1wBv9M-ekLVvzyE&e=> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jon Clements >>> aka 'Mr Honeycrisp' >>> UMass Cold Spring Orchard >>> 393 Sabin St. >>> Belchertown, MA 01007 >>> 413-478-7219 >>> umassfruit.com >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__umassfruit.com&d=BQMFaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=1ejiT2NQyeKzdraKv8xrAbS0Mb4hB-tICIci2skuNv8&m=Hqq9Z6y5B9TNZ_9uOOp_yPhDCrjsh2nAbw-m9OO3M3s&s=sXvQy899WAd74qds2MsdYkAMLLqLGRrS7hY8Gu-Dg-4&e=> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> apple-crop mailing list >>> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >>> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Maurice Tougas >> Tougas Family Farm >> Northborough,MA 01532 >> 508-450-0844 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> apple-crop mailing list >> apple-crop@virtualorchard.net >> http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop >> >> > > > -- > Art Kelly > Kelly Orchards > Acton, ME > > _______________________________________________ > apple-crop mailing list > apple-crop@virtualorchard.net > http://virtualorchard.net/mailman/listinfo/apple-crop > >
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