> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:13:43 -0800 > Subject: Making a Hard Drive for the //e > From: "Stefan C. Densmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi everyone! > > I have a EIDE internal hard drive (6Gb) that I am no longer using, having > put in a new 60Gb hard drive into my beige G3 tower. As there is nothing > wrong with the drive, I'd like to use it with my //e, and if possible, > partition it to use as a shared external drive between my SE and //e.
6GB would be a waste on a IIe. I would guess that the images of *all* the Apple ][ software would fit on one (two, tops) CD-ROMs. However, it would be really, really cool to put 6GB drive in the SE, then use the built-in Appletalk port on an Apple IIgs to read that drive. Ohhh, and GSOS will read the newer HFS on the Mac. I am unaware of this type of thing on the IIe. Is there such a thing as an add-in Appletalk interface on the IIe? Also, there is no built-in IDE interface on the IIgs nor the SE. [more below] > Presuming its possible, my first two questions concern how to build the > connection -- between the drive and a power source, as well as to a "dual > port interface" (meaning something that would allow the //e and SE to get > access to the drive) -- At least, how do I get the //e connected to the > external hard drive? ANYTHING is possible ;-) Vulcan made hard drives for the II series. What made this really cool is that they *take out* the power supply, replace it with a smaller, heavy-duty model power supply, and that leaves enough space for a standard 3.5" internal hard drive (IDE, SCSI ... you pick). At least, that's what I've seen in the IIgs machines. The IIe power supply is slightly shorter than the IIgs power supply (just checked), so there has to be some option there. "Dual-port" interfacing ... at the same time? This is not going to happen. Also, you are much more likely to get a SCSI setup to do sharing. Never at the same time, though - unless you are into building your own arbitrator! > Third question is what format to use when partitioning the drive for the > //e. I'm presuming the answer is ProDos, which the //e currently runs. > > The SE currently runs system 6 something, but I recently got a copy of > system 7.6, and plan to install it (though I've heard 7.5 is best, being > less of a RAM hog). I already have an eighties vintage external hard drive > (20 Mb) for the SE, which can be daisy chained (is that SCSI? or SCSI II?). > I use this as the start up drive for the SE, so the new drive would just be > (if possible) the start up drive for the //e. <flamebait> C'mon ... 7.0.1 or 7.1, patched - tops. Any more is bloaty. 7.5.5 is the latest MacOS available for free (as a free update from 7.5.3, also free - see the FAQ). </flamebait> [more below] > Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:51:51 -0500 (EST) > From: Michael Tulloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Making a Hard Drive for the //e > > GS to IDE interface: There's been talk of doing this for some time, > last time I read about was over at Delphi before they discontinued > support for their Apple II forums on the text side. I think the > furthest the guy got was verifying comms between the HD and the > IIe...but to make a long story short, yes you can do it but it has > been done (sorry!) /SHH System has their own HD controller that can > control up to 2 6 Gb IDE drives. If you still wanna go for it, best of > fortune! Vulcan made an IDE card for the IIgs. This was _IDE_, and not _EIDE_. This means (IIRC), 512MB, tops - and only one hard drive. (Subliminal Man ... "SCSI. Go SCSI. Up to six devices at once, daisy-chained!") How much does the SHH controller cost? [snip from digest] > Just remember that you have to boot to a ProDOS formated disk, Most GS-OS > applications can run from HFS formated drives. The major problem running between the file systems is file name standards. HFS is far more forgiving than Prodos (which runs under GSOS; is required to boot). I'm really a IIgs man, myself. I happen to have a CMS SCSI card I can't use in my IIgs, but is recommended for the IIe. I only have minimal docs, though. If you are interested, please e-mail me offlist. The controller is SCSI I, as is the external port on the SE. You may want to look at an Apple SC 20. This is the one which plugs into (IIRC) an external floppy port (which you can get for the IIe). Does anyone have experience with this unit on a II-series? // A. Daniel King, // 31 Roving Hills Circle - Cartersville GA 30121 USA // Macintosh * All flavors Unix * EMC * Veritas * Windows -- Apple2list is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac> \ Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Apple2list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/apple2.html> Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/apple2list%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Macintosh? Get free email and more at Applelinks! <http://www.applelinks.com>
