> >> Has anyone every tried/had any luck using a HD20 on any Apple2? I'm
> >> thinking in particular about the 2c+.
> >The wiring's different. Won't work, and it may damage something in both
> >the HD20 and the Apple.
> Yeah, everybody says that, but I thought for sure that it was an HD20 that I
> had hooked up to an Apple IIe at school for years, before I went FOCUS and
> CCFM.  It used a Sandwiche II card in the iie as the interface card.

As I stated earlier, I don't think the hardware ports are so different. You can
plug the same 800 kb drives to both the //c+ and any Macintosh. There is only
one little difference between early Apple ][ DB-19 external drive connectors and
the ones used in Macintoshes: the Apple ]['s didn't provide the motor speed and
disk eject signals, both of them present in the Macintosh. But later Apple ][
models (the 'revised' //c, the //gs, the //c+ and the //e with a 3.5"-capable
disk controller) provide both signals and thus can use the same drives as the
Macintosh. Usually, the only difference between a Mac and an Apple ][ 3.5"
external drive is the eject button - most Apple ][ software doesn't know how to
eject a disk, and thus a manual eject button is needed.

Anyway, this may proof the ports' hardware compatibility (I'm quite sure that a
HD20 can be plugged into any 3.5"-capable Apple ][ without harm). But even if
the harware is compatible, we need software to detect and handle it. In other
words: we need an SmartPort or ProDOS driver capable of using the HD20. That
would be, IMHO, the biggest problem for using an HD20 on an Apple //c+.

If the //e you talk of had a non-Apple disk controller card, we can suppose that
the card's ROM contained code to detect the HD20 and an SmartPort-compatible
driver to allow it to work under ProDOS. If that is true, ProDOS would be able
to happilly boot from it :-) .

Greetings,

Antonio Rodríguez (Grijan)
<ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/>




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