arachne-digest Tuesday, May 22 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1529 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:20:59 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Another very good reason to deltree windows Hello: See http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] to read about the Magistr Virus. Warning: Some persons may find the above detailed description of what it can do to you quite offensive and insulting and even infuriating. Of course if you just deltree windows you will never fall victim to the Magistr. Take care, Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)] On Fri, 18 May 2001, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > The only way to have the job done right > these days is to buy the special dual slide mounts and cut the film and > mount the slides yourself. First you have to get the roll of slide film > developed somewhere. How about in your kitchen sink? All equipment (negligible) and chemicals fit nicely in an ice chest about 12"x14"x18". It takes about as much technical ability as baking a loaf of bread. - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sunday Salsa May 20th 2001 On Sun, 20 May 2001, Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User wrote: > Thanks for feedback on the maresme pages. Arachne actually behaves much > better with this site than Nutcrack does. Netcrap just displays the > links and loses the actual a href tags totally so that it doesn't work. > It looks like I will have to load up a Nitskip only page to take care of > this, and of course a browser detction script and a .... > > iF YOU WANT ANOTHER LOOK, then try > > http://www.maresme.fsnet.co.uk > > and follow the click to enter link. The next page has an expanding links > list in the left hand frame (in IE that is). Arachne 1.66 (latest for Linux) displays the main page, but gets errors when clicking "CLICK HERE TO ENTER NOW!": banner.html was not found on this server links.html was not found on this server about.html was not found on this server Netscape 3.04 loads and renders the frameset just fine though. - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:55:47 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Film processing labs offering "pics on disks" (OT)] On Mon, 21 May 2001 14:47:17 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2001, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> The only way to have the job done right >> these days is to buy the special dual slide mounts and cut the film and >> mount the slides yourself. First you have to get the roll of slide film >> developed somewhere. > How about in your kitchen sink? > All equipment (negligible) and chemicals fit nicely in an ice chest > about 12"x14"x18". It takes about as much technical ability as > baking a loaf of bread. Yes, I know. I have done that after hours by using a facility where I used to work. I have a very small house and a very small kitchen and I don't want to invest in all the chemicals needed. Furthermore, I don't have room in my refrigerator. Another problem is that I would have to find a good way to cast enough darkness on the subject. Thanks for the suggestion, but I have already thought of doing that. Sam - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:59:21 -0500 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another very good reason to deltree windows Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > Hello: > > See http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > to read about the Magistr Virus. > > Warning: Some persons may find the above detailed description of what > it can do to you quite offensive and insulting and even infuriating. I found the detailed description of what it does and how it does it to be not much short of amazing. 110 bytes of code is running this show ? WOW ! As long as the primary target is lawyers using W9+ the damage doesn't seem to be all that serious <G>, but I can't condone the collateral destruction.:( It is a terrible shame that the only way some of these geniuses view their chances of ever getting 15 minutes of fame is to resort to this kind of activity. I guess they can't imagine any productive use of their talents that might be able to compete with Billy's virus. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - - The internet is infected - Windows is a VIRUS !! - -- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:14:44 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug report: Trashed Arachne.Cfg file On Sun, 20 May 2001 12:45:58 -0500, L.D. Best wrote: > Those smiley faces are back. > I opened up Arachne today and almost immediately had problems. I have > my inbox as "home page"; from there I clicked on the toolbar "little > envelope" to get to the mail handling toolbar so I could find a specific > tbs I wanted to work on. > When I clicked, I suddenly had NO toolbar. It wasn't a matter of it > being "there" but not written to screen; I carefully 'quartered' the > entire area of the screen and there were no active anythings behind that > blank grey surface. > I went to toolbar.tb and it was fine ... hadn't been written to for ages > [file dates do come in handy sometimes]. I went to check mime.cfg and > it was fine -- not written for ages either. > I was unhappy camper. Although the file downloading I do is minimal, I > went to F-Prot and ran that; although outdated, it said everything was > fine, virus-wize. > I then went to the F-Prot ftp site, saw a number of new things, so went > to F-Prot website to check out what was which/where/when ... I then > downloaded everything necessary to bring F-Prot up to date -- a couple > of things via html and a couple via ftp. With the new downloads, I > closed down Arachne and then upgraded the HDD and 3-floppy installs of > F-Prot. > I then went back to Arachne, and the toolbar was back. Following a > hunch, I once again [I've been doing it about once a week or so, because > we've never been able to get a real handle on what overwrites the smiley > faces] checked out Arachne.cfg. > That's when I found the smiley faces were back. > I immediately saved that version of arachne.cfg, and then saved > history.lst [not that *that* is worth much, since it writes lines into > the file in a rather random manner!]. I again checked toolbar.tb and > mime.cfg, and they were both still pristine. > So, if anyone listening might be able to pinpoint the source of the > smiley faces based upon this more precise information, and the history > list, and the flawed cfg file, let me know and I'll send you the two > files. Ah Ha! This might also explain the problem with the "red boxes". (if the "JPEGargs" and "FILEargs" lines in arachne.cfg were also trashed) If so: You may disregard my previous reply on that problem. And please accept my apologies for not thinking of that possibility sooner. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:14:52 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another very good reason to deltree windows On Mon, 21 May 2001 10:11:23 -0700, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Hello: > See http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > to read about the Magistr Virus. > Warning: Some persons may find the above detailed description of what > it can do to you quite offensive and insulting and even infuriating. > Of course if you just deltree windows you will never fall victim to > the Magistr. Thank you Sam. I printed that page to give a copy to my sister. This just might be enough to get her to switch to Arachne. (at least for eMail) :) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:47:32 +0200 From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug report: Trashed Arachne.Cfg file L.D wrote: >Those smiley faces are back. (snip) And in conjunction with that you had djpeg32.exe and/or cwsdpmi.exe "destroyed" there's only one thing I can say - "The plot thickens". Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? the two .exe files are never written to so they can't be a direct result from a problem in Arachne... What happens if we write protect the files? //Bernie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:24:43 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug report: Trashed Arachne.Cfg file On Tue, 22 May 2001 07:47:32 +0200, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L.D wrote: >> Those smiley faces are back. > (snip) > And in conjunction with that you had djpeg32.exe and/or cwsdpmi.exe > "destroyed" there's only one thing I can say - "The plot thickens". > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? the two .exe files are > never written to so they can't be a direct result from a problem in Arachne... > What happens if we write protect the files? Let's find out. I have just now write-protected my ARACHNE.CFG. Also I have write-protected DJPEG32.EXE and CWSDPMI.EXE. I will inform the list as to what happens as a result. I too have always had those smiley faces creeping into my ARACHNE.CFG. Every time I clean them out of there they always come back to haunt me. In my case the smiley faces do not appear to be causing me any problems. I just don't like their being in my ARACHNE.CFG because I don't know where they are coming from and I feel that they just should not be there. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:26:32 -0400 From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug report: Trashed Arachne.Cfg file On Tue, 22 May 2001 07:47:32 +0200, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > L.D wrote: >> Those smiley faces are back. > (snip) > And in conjunction with that you had djpeg32.exe and/or cwsdpmi.exe > "destroyed" there's only one thing I can say - "The plot thickens". > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening? the two .exe files are > never written to so they can't be a direct result from a problem in Arachne... > What happens if we write protect the files? Who said either of those .EXEs ever get touched ? My Arachne.cfg gets trashed several times a week and that's all that happens unless I get unlucky enuff to run something difficult while the .CFG is still trashed. - - Clarence Verge - - Back to using Arachne V1.62 .... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 03:09:04 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SurvPC] So long- why from Howard Schwartz: I can sympathize with this. For all its laudable virtues, Arachne has not been able to, or has chosen not to be able to keep up with the the trendy upgrades, and bells and whistles that major and commercial websites are now virtually dripping with - javascript, jave, tons of cgi scripts, dynamically created webpages, Xml various other enhanced (?) ``ML's'' real audio, falso audio, windows registry required -- an on and on. My favorite is putting important text WITHIN gif images so you an not read the text withtout a fast DSL connection and a recent/fast OS/computer. Happily I find my DOS (!) (and Unix) port of the text browser, Lynx, can still render almost all the sites I care about decently. It even has SSL encryption with forms, if you want to buy a cheezeburger over the internet. (snip) Arachne has also chosen not to make downloading simple as it is with Lynx (just type d on a link with Lynx), and I've been complaining about this for ages now. Vertical and, worse yet, horizontal scrolling are horrifically slow with Arachne. DOS Lynx386 still has problems with http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/textversion/main.html and weather report pages linked thereto. Download stops just short of finish, and the only way out is Ctrl-C, sometimes then the computer hangs and requires reboot. Htget also has problems with this domain. Another domain that seems to give similar problems is http://www.polywell.com. Problem doesn't happen every time, I may have a few good downloads followed by getting stuck. This problem never occurred with OS/2 port of Lynx, and never occurred with Arachne for DOS. I haven't tried Yan yet. On the current computer, DOS is the only OS I can run, following hard disks crash (or was it the cable or controller?). Yan was on one of the hard disks. Now I have only Iomega Zip 250 external on Trantor T130B SCSI, 3.5" 1.44 MB drive, and DR-DOS 7.03, could also run MS-DOS 6.22 or 5. Seeing the packages collections of NetBSD, Debian and Slackware Linux is seductive. When I get the new computer, I may be well see no more need for Arachne. Amaya arouses my interest, not to mention Netscape and the open-source Mozilla. I am not on SurvPC list, don't know if I could CC to that list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:16:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug report: Trashed Arachne.Cfg file Clarence wrote: > Who said either of those .EXEs ever get touched ? L.D said that using them from a new installation of Arachne fixed the problem. I was actually waiting to see if anyone would notice since she said that in a private mail. Seems atleast a few read the mails I send ;-) //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:39:24 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Another very good reason to deltree windows On Mon, 21 May 2001 17:59:21 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote: >> See http:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> to read about the Magistr Virus. > I found the detailed description of what it does and how it does it to be > not much short of amazing. 110 bytes of code is running this show ? WOW ! > It is a terrible shame that the only way some of these geniuses view their > chances of ever getting 15 minutes of fame is to resort to this kind of > activity. I guess they can't imagine any productive use of their talents > that might be able to compete with Billy's virus. I don't think they are doing it for the notoriety. I think they want to have an effect, to bring the system down, to know they can do something big. It's perverse, like anarchist bombs. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:47:48 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SurvPC] So long- why On Tue, 22 May 2001 03:09:04 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote: > Arachne has also chosen not to make downloading simple as it is with Lynx (just > type d on a link with Lynx), and I've been complaining about this for ages now. > Vertical and, worse yet, horizontal scrolling are horrifically slow with > Arachne. I don't know what you mean. Horizontal scrolling works exactly the same as vertical scrolling and seems to be exactly the same speed as well, at least for me. Downloading doesn't seem like a problem either. The big problem is that much of the web has migrated to complicated and unfortunate graphic schemes and methods that Arachne can't handle yet. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:56:57 +1000 From: "Ben Hood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: arachne.virtualave.net I am leaving the world of Arachne. I have tried to love her, but it didn't work out. So I am giving away the arachne.virtualave.net site. I created it well over a year ago partly as a replacement for chat.arachne.cz. The chat is still working with people posting on it (!) http://arachne.virtualave.net/chat.pl Post a message or reply privately if interested. Winner will be annonced on 29 May 2001. - -- Ben Hood http://i.am/hoody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:42:35 +0000 From: "Seek Hey - King of Padua" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Down with windows Hi to everyone!! i'm 14 yo from Italy. A month ago, when Ms found that my copy of windows wasn't original (my grandma lent her 2 me), i had to delete it. After this, I had to find another way to connect. First, I used a demo of an OS called QNX for some weeks but it was too slow when I connected with my old 14400 modem.. Yesterday I installed Arachne and found it very very very good.. It browses the web much faster than windows, and doesn't have bugs. I still can't say it's better than Win 98, but it lets me do everything I need. I must congratulate with the authors.. Arachne is superb!! And finally I can read and write emails!! YAHOOOOOO!!! Everyone should use Arachne!! Byeeeeeeeee!! Fede (a newbie of the mailing list) // //"I said I'd give my life for just one kiss.. // I live for your smile, and i'll die for your kiss!" // ---This PC is 100% Microsoft free --- // Ciaooooo, Alla prox by Federico Cc (Seek Hey) - -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:40:43 +0000 From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [SurvPC] So long- why Sam Ewalt wrote: > I don't know what you mean. Horizontal scrolling works exactly the > same as vertical scrolling and seems to be exactly the same speed as > well, at least for me. When displaying text in a table of, say, 750 pixel width on a 640 wide screen the user is required to continually scroll horizontally for each line, so reading a passage takes much longer. Using Opera I would zoom out, or apply my own style sheet, but Windows browsers scroll pretty instantaneously, so it's less of a problem; using Arachne the slowness of scrolling on _my_ machine is sufficiently annoying for me to shell out and read the page in cache with ViewHTML, or consider the use of a non-graphical browser. Arachne would be more user-friendly with the "grabber" Clarence hoped for, which could give a closer relationship between on-screen movement and the scrolled distance along with combining vertical and horizontal scrolling and optional removal of the scroll-bars. Interestingly, Thomas's posts have often used a line length requiring horizontal scrolling on a 640x480. Regards, Jake - -- Written by a user of Arachne: the Internet Survival Kit - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:27:43 +0200 From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Down with windows Seek Hey wrote: (snip) >-- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ IMHO you should get a newer version, otherwise I can't take any credit - only blame ;-) BTW: If anyone, for some obscure reason, is interested in how I looked earlier today I uploaded a picture to: http://hem.passagen.se/bernie/bern2.jpg a few minutes ago. //Bernie ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1529 ******************************
