arachne-digest          Monday, June 4 2001          Volume 01 : Number 1543




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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 07:42:55 -000
From: Mike Millen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

  >> On the subject of names.... I thought that Hilary Stagg was
  >a woman. > Then I puchased a CD and found *his* photo inside.

  >Yes, and in England Beverly and Evelyn can be men's names--as
  >in Evelyn Waugh, the well known writer. But maybe I've
  >spelled it wrong.

Likewise, Vivian.

I once knew a lovely girl called Courtney.

There's Leslie, too, though at least the spelling is changed
for the gentler sex.

Mike

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:54:30 +0000
From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inaccessible 3com Web site

Thomas Mueller wrote:

> I came across a Web site whose home page appeared to be designed
> purposely to deny access to all but the latest and greatest browsers:
> http://www.3com.com

Assuming you still want to get in there, the page source you included
(so much better than just a URL) indicated that:

http://www.3com.com/index2.html

would be of use... and from there I got to:

http://www.3com.com/en_US/jump_page/downloads.html

<irony alert> Titled: Easy Access to Software Downloads </irony alert>

They allude to having a "3Com University". A shame it doesn't seem to
understand much about document sharing.

I tried a download, which was successful, and gave me some training in
speed-reading as the license agreement flashed by on A's status-bar.

>From the quoted page source:

> <script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript1.1">
>    <!-- hide script content from old browsers

Good boys!

> <!-- Redirect to error page for browsers with Javascript turned off
- -->
> <noscript>

> </noscript>

Bad boys! Where's our page? And why should it be an error page?

HTH

Jake

Windmill-tilting in the JavaScript swamplands of the Kingdom of Padua.

- -- Written by a user of Arachne: the Internet Survival Kit
- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:25:31 +0200 (CEST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Linux Question?

Hi

02 Jun 2001, "Curtis Matthiesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 CM> Can someone recommend to me a good version of Linux that is very easy
 CM> to use and that has a GUI similar to Windows (oops I said the dreaded
 CM> W word ;))?
redhat is allways a good start ;)

If you want more bells and whistles take a look at mandrake

 CM> Also, one that has many device drivers available for it so that I'd
 CM> be able to run all my devices (video card, network card, etc.)
drivers are in the kernel.
they are not dependant on the distribution.
(eg. if you want a newer kernel, download it from kernel.org and install it
... you don't have to touch the rest of the system)

 CM> Also, would there be a way to dual boot my Windows 98 machine so that
 CM> I could either load Windows or Linux at startup?
sure most linux users do it that way.
LILO does the trick !
Usually automatically installed by the install procedure.

 CM> Sincerely
 CM> Curtis Matthiesen

CU, Ricsi

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|~)o _ _o  Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP)
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:02:11 +0200
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

Glenn wrote:
>On the subject of names.... I thought that Hilary Stagg was a woman.
>Then I puchased a CD and found *his* photo inside.

There are two people named "Nelly" in the music industry (that I know of
anyway). One is a guy and one is a woman (Nelly Furtardo). I think both are
from the US, but "Nelly" to me is a female name since I knew a girl with
that name.
//Bernie

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:16:04 -0700
From: "Curtis Matthiesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

*clears throat*

Nelly Furtado, is from Canada, Bernie, as I'd know as I'm a proud Canadian
here.

Regards



Curtis Matthiesen
The Proud Canadian :)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Hello List


> Glenn wrote:
> >On the subject of names.... I thought that Hilary Stagg was a woman.
> >Then I puchased a CD and found *his* photo inside.
>
> There are two people named "Nelly" in the music industry (that I know of
> anyway). One is a guy and one is a woman (Nelly Furtardo). I think both
are
> from the US, but "Nelly" to me is a female name since I knew a girl with
> that name.
> //Bernie
>
>

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:31:07 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:02:11 +0200, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> There are two people named "Nelly" in the music industry (that I know of
> anyway). One is a guy and one is a woman (Nelly Furtardo). I think both are
> from the US, but "Nelly" to me is a female name since I knew a girl with
> that name.


Nelly Furtado is a Canadian female singer, that much I know for sure.






Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:52:51 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:16:04 -0700, Curtis Matthiesen wrote:

> Nelly Furtado, is from Canada, Bernie, as I'd know as I'm a proud Canadian
> here.

Lots of Canadian's have made significant contributions to contemporary
popular music. Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, all the members of The Band
except Levon Helm, Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen and more recently 
Alanis Morrisette, and the Bare-Naked Ladies.

The fact that these people are all Canadians doesn't seem very important
to anyone except other Canadians. But you do have a right to feel
proud.








Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:30:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tony Butka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Question?

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 11:22:29 -0700, Curtis Matthiesen wrote:

>Can someone recommend to me a good version of Linux that is very easy to use
>and that has a GUI similar to Windows (oops I said the dreaded W word ;))?
>Also, one tha

Sure -

I like the Mandrake distribution.  I have version 7, which has just been upgraded to 
version 8 (with the new kernel).  Anyhow, its cheap and has a great install program.

I'm using it on a two processor server which dual boots Linux and OS/2 Warp Server for 
e Business, so yes, it will dual boot no problem.  I know it will also dual boot with 
Win98, 
not sure if Win2000 or ME does anything nasty :-)

Hope this helps,

Tony Butka

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 21:47:03 +0300
From: Cristian Burneci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You can use DOS as an Internet Gateway 

Mesajul original a fost trimis de "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
la data de Sat, 02 Jun 2001 01:35:37 BST

> 
> I haven't rearly thought about getting them all networked again but
> if It could be done without using Windoze, but possibly Dos instead
> it might be interesting.
> 

I have tried Personal Netware. It as packed together with the DR-DOS 7.03 
distribution. I think Pesonal Netware is a very good DOS peer-to-peer 
networking system from Novell, in every aspect better than its Windows 
counterpart. It offer more reliability and better security.  Every Personal 
Netware user gets a unique login name and password  which enables him/her to 
access as many network resources as it is considered to be necessary.by the 
supervisor of each server in the network.

In contrast, the Windows Networking System (or SMB) has a separate name and 
password for each network resource (folder or printer). This means that each 
user of that network needs to have a list of  many different resource names 
and passwords.  This thing may lead to confusion and, worse, to security leaks.

Internet conectivity can be assured by loading the odipkt.com shim, together 
with the network card's ODI driver. This eliminates the need of hunting for 
DOS packet drivers. Also, the generic ODI NE2000 driver  works almost for any 
NE2000 compatible card (some OEM drivers may be buggy; this is the case with 
my Surecom NE12 card). Odipkt comes together with Arachne.
 


Cristian Burneci
DHP Technology SRL
Bucharest, Romania
  

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 15:21:56 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: how do you swap Core.exe's with CSWAP.BAT

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 09:07:49, Christof Lange wrote:

<snip>

> Hello Dale,

> how could you put a button on the Toolbar? Do you know a way to
> customize toolbar.tb?

> Regards,
> Christof Lange

http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/edit_tb.jpg (118,808 bytes)
(scroll to right hand side of screenshot) ;-)


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 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 15:27:52 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Question?

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 11:22:29 -0700, Curtis Matthiesen wrote:

> Can someone recommend to me a good version of Linux that is very easy to use
> and that has a GUI similar to Windows (oops I said the dreaded W word ;))?
> Also, one that has many device drivers available for it so that I'd be able
> to run all my devices (video card, network card, etc.)

Caldera OpenLinux v2.3 is on my machine.
I love it. :)

> Also, would there be a way to dual boot my Windows 98 machine so that I
> could either load Windows or Linux at startup?

> Your help in this matter is greatly appreciated.

This machine is "tri-boot"
OpenDos v7.01, OpenLinux v2.3, W98 (still need it for the IDE CD burner)

As soon as I save-up the money for an SCSI CD burner......
Linux fdisk will change that W98 partition to DOS in about 15sec time. :))



- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:42:56 +0200
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

Curtis wrote:
>Nelly Furtado, is from Canada, Bernie, as I'd know as I'm a proud Canadian
>here.

Ok, I had a wage idea that that was the case, but I didn't think anyone
would know ;-)
Come to think of it, the chance that she was canadian was higher than her
being an american since her songs isn't written/produced by someone in
Sweden. Most american artists that sell in the rest of the world have their
songs wirher written or produced by people in Sweden. Max Martin won for
the thirs year in a row as songwritter in the US IIRC.
//Bernie

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 15:57:50 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT: Blackfire tour in Czech Republic

- ----- Forwarded message begin -----
   Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:20:21 +0200
   From: "Bushka Bryndova" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Press release on Navajo band BLACKFIRE Czech and Slovak part of 
European Tour 2001

Navajo rock group BLACKFIRE will perform a dozen of concerts and traditional
dances shows (as The Jones Benally's Family) during 2 weeks tour in the
Czech Republic and Slovakia, which is going to take place in the framework
of a European tour of this popular Native American musical band. Their
ethnic shows are completed with lectures and discussions on the present
situation of Navajos. Jones Benally's mother is Roberta Blackgoat - a
legendary figure of the cause of Big Mountain/ Black Mesa.
<snip>

More information on the European Tour 2001:

http://www.bushka.narodni.cz/blackfiretour.html

Thank you for your attention,

Bushka Bryndova
LPSG CR
http://www.geocities.com/bushka_cz


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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:12:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Question?

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> This machine is "tri-boot"
> OpenDos v7.01, OpenLinux v2.3, W98 (still need it for the IDE CD burner)

> As soon as I save-up the money for an SCSI CD burner......
> Linux fdisk will change that W98 partition to DOS in about 15sec time. :))

  Why wait?  I've burned CD's with my IDE Yamaha 8-4-24 CDR.
Most IDE burners are supported.

  I don't have it set up on this drive... but if you download 
xcdroast, it'll have (or point you to) all the instruction you 
need to get it set up.

 - Steve

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:16:02 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT:  Schools out [was ]Re: - 5

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 16:52:29 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 19:48:53 +0000, Seek Hey - King of Padua wrote:

>> 5 days of school left over here.. YAHOOOOO!!!

>> :o)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
>> )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
<snip joyousness>
>> ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))... etc. etc.

> Ahh yes... "School's out for summer"!!!

> Believe it or not. Some day you *will* speak these words.
> "I wish I was back in school again".

> Oh, to be 14 again instead of 41. ;-)

Yes, school is out.  Yesterday [Saturday] was "graduation party night"
for much of the area.  That meant that the FD contacted my son at work
and asked him to be "on call" with his PowerWagon 4x4 and EMT training. 
He didn't want to, hoping to get to bed at a decent hour for once, but
they reminded him that "graduation party night" was much worse than
"prom night" when it came to stupidity on the part of teens which
equates to accidents and potential highway deaths.  The FD was serious
enough about the potential for a mass cas that they set up a secondary
site outside of town, in the "middle" of the coverage district.  Before
my son went to join them at the site, I was given directions on how to
get there should they need me.  He got home about 0300, and I remained
awake and on-call until 0600 or so.

We, or should I say the kids, got lucky this year.  Only one accident,
no one seriously injured, no one dead.  But all of them are facing jail
time, and they may have to work the next ten years to pay off their
debts,  since they decided to hijack the limo their parents had rented
for them for the night ... and limos don't handle being rolled into
gullies worth a damn -- being the original "chop jobs" of the automotive
world.  I'll wager the driver will also be doing some fast talking,
because there should have been no way they managed to get him out of the
vehicle while the keys were still in it.

I keep wondering why kids who should just be "starting life" seem to
want to end it before it begins.

l.d.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:24:10 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Rouges' Gallery [was Re: Hello List]

My personal opinion of the gallery is mixed.  I've always felt that the
internet [and before that BBSing] was a place where the externals didn't
count, and it was what you said/did which mattered.  It can be totally
gender-free if one wants ... no age barriers, who cares where/when you
play or pray, etc.  That's totally k00l ...

But, in this case, when we've been yelling and screaming and squirming
and preening and failing and succeeding on-line for so many years, it's
sorta nice to see faces [even immature, potential yet to be realized
ones] affixed to the names we know.

l.d.
====


On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 00:41:21 +0200, Guenter Bietzig wrote:

> Hi all,

> On Wed, 30 May 2001 18:25:18 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> ....
> ....

>> Ok, ladies (and the rest of the men for that matter), L.D. was brave
>> enough to upload her photo.

>> Who's next??? ;-)

>> Come on now....
>> The men out number the women on the photo pages by 5:1

> ....
> ....

> Now it's 6:1  ;-(

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:30:33 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inaccessible 3com Web site

I know the 3Com site went insane; ticks me off, since I have 3Com NIC. 
However, the *entire* site hasn't been trashed.  If you know where to
start, you can get some support and information you might need.  Here's
one URL where it's possible:

http://support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 02:08:03 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:

> I came across a Web site whose home page appeared to be designed purposely to
> deny access to all but the latest and greatest browsers:
> http://www.3com.com
> It showed as a blank page in DOS Lynx386 (typical symptom of Javascript, could
> also occur if there really is nothing there), htget couldn't get it at all
> (unusual).  I was able to download the page by making a link in my bookmarks
> file,
<snip>

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 16:31:37 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

Has everyone forgotten Marion Morrison?  aka "The Duke" ...?

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On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 07:42:55 -000, Mike Millen wrote:

>>> On the subject of names.... I thought that Hilary Stagg was
>> a woman. > Then I puchased a CD and found *his* photo inside.

>> Yes, and in England Beverly and Evelyn can be men's names--as
>> in Evelyn Waugh, the well known writer. But maybe I've
>> spelled it wrong.

> Likewise, Vivian.

> I once knew a lovely girl called Courtney.

> There's Leslie, too, though at least the spelling is changed
> for the gentler sex.

> Mike

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:07:53 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OT:  More on DDOS from GRC

Read the letter, and take a look at the pages he's working on.  I
think I have an idea of where he is heading, and it could set the
internet world on its ear ... and maybe stop spammers as well as
malicious little nerds with no life that's not connected to a CRT &
keyboard.

http://grc.com/dos/openletter.htm

l.d.
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:06:51 +0100
From: "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

Previously...

> Ok, ladies (and the rest of the men for that matter), L.D. was brave
> enough to upload her photo.

> Who's next??? ;-)

> Come on now....
> The men out number the women on the photo pages by 5:1

> Now it's 6:1  ;-(

> Regards

> G�nter

> ArachneHelpPage http://home.nexgo.de/guebie/arachne.htm

Hi Gunter,

I checked it out and everything was as gruesome as expected ..
except L.D and your computer that were red boxes.

Regards,  Laurie

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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 20:26:48 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rogue's gallery

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:52:22 -0400, Terri FitzSimons wrote:

> Okay.  So let's make it 6-2.  We're still badly outnumbered, though

> [Attached file: TF-PORT.]

I hope you don't mind that I reduced the size a bit.
A 1601x2000x16mc Jpeg was a little too big for the gallery.
(plus, it ends-up as a 9.6mb BMP in the Arachne cache directory) ;-)

http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/ar-gal.htm

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 Glenn
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 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 03:20:35 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The idiocy that surpasseth all understanding

Hello Arachnids:

Someone I know who runs Arachne 1.70, rev. 3 called me today and
said that all of the messages in her inbox except for one had
"disappeared".

I went to her home and took a look at her inbox while within InSight.
There were about 25 messages listed having no headers and all having
zero bytes except for one.  The subject line of the only message
showing headers was "RESTORING THE SULFNBK.EXE FILE".  When I clicked
on this message I got the Arachne Load Error Page.

Next I shut down Arachne and started examining the files in the inbox
by using a file viewer.  All of the CNM files were there and they seemed
complete.  I found that the idiot who had sent the message about
restoring the SULFNBLK.EXE file had addressed the message to approx. 275
multiple recipients, each having his email address individually listed!
The mailer used was MicroSoft Outlook Express.  Doesn't Microsoft Outlook
Express have an "@list" type of feature similar to what we find in
Arachne and Nettamer and other good email clients?  Why would this idiot
want to send out so many private email addresses in her message headers?
I suppose some idiots just like to chum for trolls.

The contents of the offending message I will briefly describe as follows:

There was a text body saying something to the effect that in case you
deleted the SULFNBK.EXE as a result of responding to a virus hoax, then
you should restore it because it is a useful Windows file.  The message
also had a dupe HTML attachment, a gif image attachment, and if that
wasn't bad enough, the idiot even included a MicroSoft Word attachment
being a document having instructions on how to restore the SULFNBK.EXE
file.  Of course these simple instructions could have been just as well
presented with ascii text.

What would you guys think of some idiot who would be so brash as to
insinuate that about 275 people on her mailing list might be so stupid
as to have fallen for this virus hoax?  What would you think of some idiot
that would suppose that all these people would have no idea as to how to
go about restoring a standard Windows file that ships with the
installation CD-ROM?

If all of the above were not bad enough, then here is the idiocy which
passeth all understanding:  The government is so stupid that it even
hired this idiot for a responsible high-salaried supervisory position !!!!

Back in the days when I worked for the government, job applicants used to
have to present evidence of their knowledge, skills, education, experience,
and abilities prior to being accepted even for an interview for an entry
level position.  Look what is happening now!

BTW, after having edited the offending message file by deleting almost
all of the muliple recipients' email addresses I was able to view the
message within InSight and all of the other message files as well.

As a result of the experience described above I have discovered that there
is some limit as to the number of multiple recipients that InSight can
handle in a CNM file.  I haven't yet conducted any experiments to determine
what the limit is.

Has anyone else yet experienced a problem with a CNM file having too many
multiple recipients listed?  If not, then look for such a CNM file if ever
you should have a problem with viewing whatever is in your inbox.  In the
Windows world idiots abound.

All the best,

Sam Heywood, happily climbing the walls and bouncing around in a box
without windows.

- -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/

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