arachne-digest         Tuesday, June 5 2001         Volume 01 : Number 1544




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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 02:00:07 -0700
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ..oh to be....!!!

Yesterday, Glenn wrote....

>oh to be 14 instead of 41...

now:

<gregy>..oh to be 41 instead of going on 60

........<g g g g>

.......gregy


- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:28:43 +0200
From: "Guenter Bietzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 11:06:51 +0100, Laurie L Proud wrote:

> Hi Gunter,

> I checked it out and everything was as gruesome as expected ..
> except L.D and your computer that were red boxes.

> Regards,  Laurie

Hi Laurie,

may be you have d/l the page same time as I had made some changes
on the server yesterday. I've just checked and it looks ok.

Regards

G�nter

Guenter Bietzig, Essen, Germany.  Arachne BUG-,CRASH-,WISH-& LOVElist at:
ArachneHelpPage http://home.nexgo.de/guebie/arachne.htm

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 04:34:41 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file:c:\arachne\mail\91569361.cnm

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 10:09:37 +0100, Laurie L Proud wrote:

> -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

> [Attached file: 91569361.] (File "91569361.cnm" (type message/rfc822, size 2 KB))

References:
http://www.etching.com/14_sky_falling.html

Sam Heywood

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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 10:00:58 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The idiocy that surpasseth all understan

Sam,

The idiot that sent that message probably had received a message that was 
sent to 275 people and had LOOKOUT! set to "Respond to All" and "Show all 
recipients."

The SULFNBK.EXE hoax had some very knowledgable people deleting it.  It 
probably did no harm to the computer as the file is the Start-Up Long File 
Name BacK-up in the event that LFNs get deleted and only the 8.3 aliases are 
shown.  I would imagine that every time the computer is started, the 
SULFNBK.EXE file is executed and if it is missing, it is created.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Sam Heywood wrote:

. > Hello Arachnids:

. > Someone I know who runs Arachne 1.70, rev. 3 called me today and
. > said that all of the messages in her inbox except for one had
. > "disappeared".

. > I went to her home and took a look at her inbox while within InSight.
. > There were about 25 messages listed having no headers and all having
. > zero bytes except for one.  The subject line of the only message
. > showing headers was "RESTORING THE SULFNBK.EXE FILE".  When I clicked
. > on this message I got the Arachne Load Error Page.

. > Next I shut down Arachne and started examining the files in the inbox
. > by using a file viewer.  All of the CNM files were there and they seemed
. > complete.  I found that the idiot who had sent the message about
. > restoring the SULFNBLK.EXE file had addressed the message to approx. 275
. > multiple recipients, each having his email address individually listed!
. > The mailer used was MicroSoft Outlook Express.  Doesn't Microsoft Outlook
. > Express have an "@list" type of feature similar to what we find in
. > Arachne and Nettamer and other good email clients?  Why would this idiot
. > want to send out so many private email addresses in her message headers?
. > I suppose some idiots just like to chum for trolls.

. > The contents of the offending message I will briefly describe as follows:
 
. > There was a text body saying something to the effect that in case you
. > deleted the SULFNBK.EXE as a result of responding to a virus hoax, then
. > you should restore it because it is a useful Windows file.  The message
. > also had a dupe HTML attachment, a gif image attachment, and if that
. > wasn't bad enough, the idiot even included a MicroSoft Word attachment
. > being a document having instructions on how to restore the SULFNBK.EXE
. > file.  Of course these simple instructions could have been just as well
. > presented with ascii text.

. > What would you guys think of some idiot who would be so brash as to
. > insinuate that about 275 people on her mailing list might be so stupid
. > as to have fallen for this virus hoax?  What would you think of some idiot
. > that would suppose that all these people would have no idea as to how to
. > go about restoring a standard Windows file that ships with the
. > installation CD-ROM?

. > If all of the above were not bad enough, then here is the idiocy which
. > passeth all understanding:  The government is so stupid that it even
. > hired this idiot for a responsible high-salaried supervisory position !!!!

. > Back in the days when I worked for the government, job applicants used to
. > have to present evidence of their knowledge, skills, education, 
. > experience, and abilities prior to being accepted even for an interview 
. > for an entry level position.  Look what is happening now!

. > BTW, after having edited the offending message file by deleting almost
. > all of the muliple recipients' email addresses I was able to view the
. > message within InSight and all of the other message files as well.

. > As a result of the experience described above I have discovered that there
. > is some limit as to the number of multiple recipients that InSight can
. > handle in a CNM file.  I haven't yet conducted any experiments to 
. > determine what the limit is.

. > Has anyone else yet experienced a problem with a CNM file having too many
. > multiple recipients listed?  If not, then look for such a CNM file if ever
. > you should have a problem with viewing whatever is in your inbox.  In the
. > Windows world idiots abound.

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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:58:29 -0400
From: Jim Carroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The idiocy that surpasseth all understan

To Roger Turk and Everyone,

Hello Roger,                                             5 AM EDT, 4 June
2001

Thanks for your prompt and comprehensive reply to my  first  posting  on 
this
"psuedo Arachne Forum".

I  simply  replaced that entire section of ARACHNE.CFG with your text and
then
changed the appropriate few lines as you indicated, and it  worked  the 
first
time.   As  far  as  I  can  see  with  "preliminary testing", nothing else
in
ARACHNE.CFG needs changing.

Preliminarily, I believe I can say that all bugs have cleared up  except 
that
the  screen  still  has  several  blacked-out rectangles that total perhaps
10
percent of the screen area. I'm guessing that's  not  caused  by  anything 
in
ARACHNE.CFG.

My apologies for being slow with this reply; partly I was slow because I
had a
long weekend out of town for the holiday and  partly  I  waited  until  I 
had
installed your suggested "fix" and played with Arachne a few days.

Now  some  possibly "hot" news for you: I rcvd a ZIPped file from Brian
Murphy
yesterday (3 June) that provides some interesting  capabilities.   Actually
 I
don't  remember  the  exact  detail  of why this came to me although I
think I
probably requested it a week or so ago. It came by email but not from the
same
source (email address) that all the other "stuff"  from  the  "Arachne 
Forum"
comes from.

I  suspect you already know all about this and have received it already but
if
you haven't, I think you'll definitely want it.   It  talks  about 
Compuserve
subscribers  operating  Arachne  (1.70  and  other recent versions) from a
RAM
disk.  It includes a sample ARACHNE.CFX file and a sample PPPDRC.CFX file.

The ZIP file that contains all this has 297762 bytes; it's named
ARACCFG2.ZIP.

Like I said, I suspect you already have this but since I'm new to Arachne 
and
specially  new  to the "Arachne Forum", I can't be confident that I
understand
how the "forum" works yet. Anyway, if you already have this ZIP  file, 
simply
ignore  this.   If  you  don't and would like me to send a copy, simply let
me
know.

Since  I've already moved your note to me out of the "In Basket", I'm not
sure
I know how to easily directly reply to it. Thus I'll try to reply (with 
this)
thru the "forum" but will also send this to your Compuserve email address.

Thanks again for your quick and comprehensive reply. It got me "operating"!

Jim Carroll
Retired EEngr in VA, USA
105417,2506 (Compuserve member ID number)
 

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:10:51 +0000
From: "Mel Evans, Registered Arachne User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monday meanderings

Hi gangue,

Been away caravanning, so that's why you all "missed" the Sunday Salsa!
By popular demand, I'm back.

We were down in Lancashire (north west of England) on a caravan rally
organised by the Club for Lunar Caravan Owners. This was held at a
fishery there which has a caravan site attached as part of the complex.
The fishery is around 50 acres of water stocked with differnet
sporting fish for all types of anglers. Whilst we were there, one guy
caught (and put back) a fish that weighed in at 34lbs (around 16 kilos)
and that's a pretty big fish let me tell you.

Foot and Mouth still giving odd outbreaks here and there, even some in
areas thought to be pretty well cleaned out.

Foot and Mouth has been busy in the election hustings also here, we vote on
Thursday this week here in the UK. Of course, that's politicians opening
their mouths and putting their foot in it (grin 8*> ).

My arachne website is still pulling down hits at around 100 each week,
that's a lot of potential users in a year! I still can't make up my mind
as to whether to carry on with it or not? Sorry Michael?

Should I upload a photo or not? I don't want to disillusion all my fans
out there (ROTFL) and put the rest to shame. 

Take care guys. SS should be back OK this weekend, we are not away
camping for another couple of weeks or so.

Did you back-up to-day? Or did you just let things grind away as usual.

Regards

Mel
- -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 18:04:40 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can you say "reboot?"

Went to URL site on search; "next page" code apparently too long for
Arachne to handle by itself ... and long lines prevent editor from
working.  So that left the option of F-6 and F-7 to find the URL and
append the end by hand...  I've done it before, it's a royal
rectalgia, but it usually works.

Not today.  Today with code displayed via F-6, use F-7 to search for
"results" and hit ENTER once "results" is in the field.  And screen
goes blank, then computer does a warm reboot.  GRRRRRRRRR!!!!

I'm writing this now, will save to outbox, and then try the F-6/F-7
combo again to see if I get a reboot again.

I'm back ...  this time it didn't reboot.  It simply locked up tight
once I hit ENTER and *I* had to do the reboot myself.

http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/filters/searchresults/1,12129,,00.html?cat_id=16&fid1=101%7C788%7CPentium%26nbsp%3BIII&fid2=10
%7CNULL%2DNULL%7CAll%26nbsp%3BProcessor%26nbsp%3BSpeeds&cid=NULL
- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 19:49:32 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 13:02:11 +0200, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Glenn wrote:
>> On the subject of names.... I thought that Hilary Stagg was a woman.
>> Then I puchased a CD and found *his* photo inside.

> There are two people named "Nelly" in the music industry (that I know of
> anyway). One is a guy and one is a woman (Nelly Furtardo). I think both are
> from the US, but "Nelly" to me is a female name since I knew a girl with
> that name.
> //Bernie

Agreed.
A variation in spelling.... Nellie was my grandmother. :)


- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 20:07:28 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:52:51 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:16:04 -0700, Curtis Matthiesen wrote:

>> Nelly Furtado, is from Canada, Bernie, as I'd know as I'm a proud Canadian
>> here.

> Lots of Canadian's have made significant contributions to contemporary
> popular music. Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, all the members of The Band
> except Levon Helm, Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen and more recently
> Alanis Morrisette, and the Bare-Naked Ladies.

> The fact that these people are all Canadians doesn't seem very important
> to anyone except other Canadians. But you do have a right to feel
> proud.

I'll have to disagree with you on that point. <g>
I feel it of some importance that all of those you mentioned
(plus Celine Dion and Loreena McKennitt), are good friends to our north.

BTW,
For a look at couple of very nicely designed web sites.
http://www.celinedion.com/
http://www.quinlanroad.com/

- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 20:35:17 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The idiocy that surpasseth all understanding

On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 03:20:35 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

<snip>

> What would you guys think of some idiot who would be so brash as to
> insinuate that about 275 people on her mailing list might be so stupid
> as to have fallen for this virus hoax?  What would you think of some idiot
> that would suppose that all these people would have no idea as to how to
> go about restoring a standard Windows file that ships with the
> installation CD-ROM?

I would think that this idiot was simply a typical "windows user". :(

<snip>

> Has anyone else yet experienced a problem with a CNM file having too many
> multiple recipients listed?  If not, then look for such a CNM file if ever
> you should have a problem with viewing whatever is in your inbox.  In the
> Windows world idiots abound.

Yes.

My solution...
1) delete the offending message
2) reload my "inbox"
3) continue along to the more important eMails




- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:59:42 -0500
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello List

Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>
> On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 12:52:51 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 08:16:04 -0700, Curtis Matthiesen wrote:
>
> >> Nelly Furtado, is from Canada, Bernie, as I'd know as I'm a proud Canadian
> >> here.
>
> > Lots of Canadian's have made significant contributions to contemporary
> > popular music. Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, all the members of The Band
> > except Levon Helm, Gordon Lightfoot, Leonard Cohen and more recently
> > Alanis Morrisette, and the Bare-Naked Ladies.
>
> > The fact that these people are all Canadians doesn't seem very important
> > to anyone except other Canadians. But you do have a right to feel
> > proud.
>
> I'll have to disagree with you on that point. <g>
> I feel it of some importance that all of those you mentioned
> (plus Celine Dion and Loreena McKennitt), are good friends to our north.

Thanks Glenn;
I was going to comment the first time around but there were just too many
alligators flippin around my office at the time. <g>

Generally speaking, we are well know for maintaining a low profile, but
that doesn't necessarily mean we are all shy and/or retiring.  You are
quite right, Sam, when you say the above seems to be only important to
Canadians.  In NORMAL trans-border communications the fact that those
mentioned were Canadians would probably not have been mentioned.

Modesty usually demands we not flaunt this talent stuff in our neighbor's
face but doesn't prevent us from feeling free to acknowledge it among
ourselves. ;-)
Due to the international nature of this forum, we have each come to accept
the others as one of our own - so you were granted honarary Canadian status
and thus included in the sharing of: Hey! She is one of OURS ! <GG>

I saw that you agree it's reasonable for us to acclaim those who hit
the "big" time, I'm just trying to explain why:
a) It seems to matter to us when one of our 22 million gets noticed among
the 240 million in English speaking North America (oops. I better reduce
our count by 6 million <g>) - just kidding Celine, and Captain Kirk ! <g>

b) We might feel compelled to shout it out here.:)

- -  Clarence Verge
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- -  Help stamp out FATWARE.  As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
- -  The internet is infected - Windows is a VIRUS !!
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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:38:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Question?

(begin quote, and not wanting to further extend the right margin)

I like the Mandrake distribution.  I have version 7, which has just been upgraded to
version 8 (with the new kernel).  Anyhow, its cheap and has a great install program.

I'm using it on a two processor server which dual boots Linux and OS/2 Warp Server for
e Business, so yes, it will dual boot no problem.  I know it will also dual boot with 
Win98,
not sure if Win2000 or ME does anything nasty :-)

Hope this helps,

Tony Butka
(end of quote)

How does Linux compare as a server to OS/2 Warp Server for e-business?  I am
surprised to see Warp Server for e-business mentioned on this list!  Which boot
manager do you use?

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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:38:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You can use DOS as an Internet Gateway

(begin quote)
   Internet conectivity can be assured by loading the odipkt.com shim, together
   with the network card's ODI driver. This eliminates the need of hunting for
   DOS packet drivers. Also, the generic ODI NE2000 driver  works almost for any
   NE2000 compatible card (some OEM drivers may be buggy; this is the case with
   my Surecom NE12 card). Odipkt comes together with Arachne.

   Cristian Burneci
   DHP Technology SRL
   Bucharest, Romania
(end of quote)

Is this entirely within DOS?  What OS is the network card's ODI driver for?
"Shim" suggests linking to a connection from non-DOS, as a DOS box within OS/2
or Windows.

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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 08:04:51 +0200
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: You can use DOS as an Internet Gateway

Thomas wrote:
>Is this entirely within DOS?  What OS is the network card's ODI driver for?
>"Shim" suggests linking to a connection from non-DOS, as a DOS box within
OS/2
>or Windows.

ODI is AFAIK for Novells IPX net. The OS would therefor be DOS (but there's
a chance that the other OS have the same ODI driver).
//Bernie

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 01:47:20 +0100
From: "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VIRUS Alert

 Hi Team!
 The NASTIES are at it again.
 PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE FOR WHOM YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL ADDRESS.
 Thanks for taking time to read this and share it. Please excuse me, 
 if you  get more than one copy of this, as you may be on more than one 
 of my lists. 

 Best wishes for abundant Success!

 Jan Slama
 (509) 922-3412
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 VIRUS WARNING:

 If you receive an email titled:
 "It Takes Guts to Say Jesus"

 DO NOT OPEN IT. It will erase everything on your hard drive. This
 information was announced yesterday morning from IBM; AOL states that 
 this  is a very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa," and that 
 there is NO  Remedy for it at this time.

 Some very sick individual has succeeded in using the reformat function
 from  Norton Utilities causing it to completely erase all documents on 
 the hard  drive. It has been designed to work with Netscape Navigator 
 and Microsoft  Internet Explorer.

 It destroys Macintosh and IBM compatible computers.

 This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it.

 Pass this warning along to EVERYONE in your address book and please 
 share  it  with all your online friends ASAP so that this threat maybe 
 stopped.

 Please practice cautionary measures and tell anyone  that may have 
 access to your computer. Forward this warning to everyone  that
 you know that might access the Internet.

 Joyce L. Bober
 IBM Information Systems
 Pittsburgh Mailing Systems
 412-922-8744

 ----------------------END-----------------------------------------------

Sorry it diden't work at my first attempt to send this

Yet another reason to avoid M$ etc etc....

Regards Laurie
 -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/
 -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 11:01:16 +0200 (CEST)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VIRUS Alert

>  Hi Team!
>  The NASTIES are at it again.
(snip)

Please....

>  If you receive an email titled:
>  "It Takes Guts to Say Jesus"
> 
>  DO NOT OPEN IT. It will erase everything on your hard drive.

How?

> This
>  information was announced yesterday morning from IBM;

Note the absense of a link to this information from IBM.

> AOL states that 
>  this  is a very dangerous virus, much worse than "Melissa," and that 
>  there is NO  Remedy for it at this time.

There are no virus that can't be stopped.

>  Some very sick individual has succeeded in using the reformat function
>  from  Norton Utilities causing it to completely erase all documents on 
>  the hard  drive. It has been designed to work with Netscape Navigator 
>  and Microsoft  Internet Explorer.

Norton utilities isn't included in Explorer or Navigator.

>  It destroys Macintosh and IBM compatible computers.

AFAIK there's no NU version for Mac (I might be wrong about that however).
 
>  This is a new, very malicious virus and not many people know about it.

No, the only virus was the mail that you sent. Obviously you don't know
about these things yet so I'll let you off with just a warning. Next time
I'll get rude but I doubt we'll get there :)

>  Pass this warning along to EVERYONE in your address book and please 
>  share  it  with all your online friends ASAP so that this threat maybe 
>  stopped.

This is an easy way to see that it isn't true, but there were some others
as well. There are pages about these hoaxes on the anti-virus softwares
homepages. I suggest you read them. I also strongely suggest that you send
an appology stating that it wasn't true to everyone that you sent it to,
including a suggestion that they do the same. Of course you should send it
"up the chain" as well to the person you got it from (and any e-mail
address you see that he/she sent to as well.
//Bernie
http://bernie.arachne.cz/

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