arachne-digest         Sunday, June 10 2001         Volume 01 : Number 1548




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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:01:22 -0500
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Blasted JSusing webmasters ...

I swear, some webmasters have their heads in anatomically impossible
positions!

I've just run across what I *thought* was another problem with the
Arachne implementation of CSS ... so I F-4'd to see if deleting the
style would help. [It often does.]

But this time I found that the ONLY reason Arachne wasn't working
correctly was that the @#$@!%!! webmaster had placed the STYLE
information >>inside<< the comment tags.  :<

Moving the end tag for the comment above the style fixed things just
fine.

You can see that type of stupidity just about every page on 
http://www.akc.org

l.d.
- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 23:27:04 +0300
From: Cristian Burneci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: something wrong at the roots? 

Mesajul original a fost trimis de Ken Martwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  la data de Fri, 
08 Jun 2001 08:14:03 PDT
>      Thomas Mueller wrote (in part):
>      
> > Under DOS and OS/2, only one primary partition on a hard drive can be
> > accessible at one time (same with Windows including NT/2000?), and I
> > thought that was an inherent limitation of the hardware until Linux 
> > showed otherwise.
>  
> The partition table in the MBR (and IDE drives, I think) can contain
> up to four entries for "primary" partitions.  If there are logical
> partitions, one of these entries is a "container" partition for the
> logical partitions.  There is not a problem accessing more than one
> primary partition under DOS.  I have a 386 with MS-DOS, PTS-DOS and
> FreeDOS on separate bootable partitions.  Each OS can readily access
> all three partitions.
> Ken Martwick

So it was only a DOS/Windows FDISK limitation then?







- -- 
Cristian Burneci
DHP Technology SRL
Bucharest, Romania

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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 01 13:40:02 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Schwartz)
Subject: Lynx and Graphics

>  I like Lynx a lot and if I never wanted to see a picture I would certainly
>  use it. But that's not what most of us want or need. I'm not familiar with
>  the new Lynxes you speak of.  

The latest versions of lynx show images/pictures in on the screen
in one of several ways. If you double click, or go to a picture
symbol and hit <ENTER> you can view the picture with your favorite
image viewer.  This works somewhat like the MIME attachments in
email. In fact lynx reads the customary mailcap that specifies
different viewer programs for different kinds of files. 

This is not 100% satisfactory, since you can not see the picture/text
layout of the page, as one could if one say all the pictures at the
same time. Perhaps a later addition will provide an option to show
all images on the page in sequence, like the familar slide show
option of viewers.

The current lynx also impliments SSL 128bit encryption, so those who
want to can to transactions with their bank, etc. 

Both features are part of the dos port which works fine.

I my sadly admit that my personal experience with arachne has been
that a fair number of pages I wanted to see, archane could not handle,
or rendered extremely slowly. The amount was sufficiently high that
I abandoned using arachne as my main browser. 

On the other hand lynx shows me 99.9% of what I want to see. So my
priorities these days is :  try lynx first, if pictures are important
try archne, if worse comes to worse open win 3.11 and use netscape
4.7.

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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:35:26 +0800
From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotlist Help

Some options:

Send the Hotlist to an Opera user (or get Opera yourself: there's
not a DOS option, "due to limited demand"). Instruct Opera user
to open hotlist.htm and do a Ctrl+J -- this little known feature grabs
and outputs all links on a page and can list them alphabetically.

Try Rpsort -- 381kB installed. Freeware, 87kB from:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/arachne-browser/rpsrt102.zip
- -- allows sorting at a particular column position. Edit from
Windows 98 has a search/replace feature which may be
useful.

I've not tried this one:
ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/simtelnet/msdos/html/ssdlapp1.zip
- -- creates alphabetical URL index pages. The homepage is:
http://www.alltodaysnews.com/ssdlshot.htm
It claims to extract JavaScript links -- could be very useful!

You could also try setting up a database. DataPerfect looks
a good'un.

HTH

Jake

Currently Perl-diving (with limited success) in the shark-infested
territorial waters of the Kingdom of Padua.

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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:35:29 +0800
From: "J. J. Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx and Graphics

Howard wrote:
>if worse comes to worse open win 3.11 and use netscape 4.7.

Absolutely true. There are far "less worse" browsers for Win3.1x
particularly for machines with less than 16MB RAM. The "historic"
browsers plus Opera...

As I generally go images off I really ought to give Lynx a try.
How much HDD space does it require?

Regards

Jake

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:48:09 -0700
From: "Thomas Tabler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where did all the good floppy disks go?

Dear List:


    Perhaps my imagination, but this is now the second or third
manufacturer of floppy diskettes I have tried, with no success.
My floppy disk drive will not read them.  Especially bad if I 
decide to save a small download to a floppy rather than the 
hard drive.  To all out there:  will the AT users of the world
unite and demand a decent floppy disk??  Or is Superdrive/Iomega
zip drive the only way to go?  Help.



Yours,


Thomas Tabler
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, WWW Web browser for DOS--

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:33:20 -0500
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where did all the good floppy disks go?

Thomas Tabler wrote:
>
> Dear List:
>
>     Perhaps my imagination, but this is now the second or third
> manufacturer of floppy diskettes I have tried, with no success.
> My floppy disk drive will not read them.  Especially bad if I
> decide to save a small download to a floppy rather than the
> hard drive.  To all out there:  will the AT users of the world
> unite and demand a decent floppy disk??  Or is Superdrive/Iomega
> zip drive the only way to go?  Help.

Rather than the diskettes it's likely that the culprit is your disk drive.

Most (read ALL) new floppy drives are crap. A 10 year old drive is very
likely to be still operational and aligned, but possibly in need of a
head cleaning while I have to toss the newer ones out every couple of
months if I try to use them. :(

Sometimes I get less than 10 hours of actual use (rotation) from them
and the low record is 4 hours. (over the period of a single month)
 
These are brand-new drives of the grade that commonly gets installed in
a new PC. (Fujitsu, Mitsumi, Panasonic) Prices are 20-30 $CAD.

In contrast, I find budget grade diskettes from Future Shop (25 for 5 $CAD)
are fine, although about 1 in 10 is formatted at an alignment that gives
my current (crap) disk drives trouble. The solution is to bulk erase and
reformat to your current alignment, and hope it will work in your next drive.
:(((
Sort of like the tracking alignment problems some VCRs have with standard
rented tapes while your own tapes play fine.

- -  Clarence Verge
- --
- -  Help stamp out FATWARE.  As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
- -  The internet is infected - Windows is a VIRUS !!
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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 19:52:00 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne dying, lynx in good health?

On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 21:10:17 +0200, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thomas wrote:

<snip>

Thomas>> But now, RAM is so cheap, there is no sense buying a new computer
T>> with less than 256 MB, computer users move on to bigger things.
T>> Why put up with Arachne's clumsy scrolling and other comical flaws?

Bernie> Clumsy scrolling? It has never been clumsy for me.
B> Internet Explorer on the
B> other hand is awful in this regard. It isn't any better on this Duron
B> 750MHz (incidently with 256MB) than my old machine.
B> I use Arachne for these reasons:

Scrolling is also no problem here.
(except on HUGE pages where a "virtual screen" can't be created)

<snip>

B> BTW: Did you notice that QV has come out in a new version, and it's also
B> being ported to Linux (CLI of course, no X needed).
B> //Bernie

Yep.
Also a new version of MPEG.EXE (v1.10)

It works great for Mpegs.
(even plays some of the ones that v1.00 couldn't play)

A very big THANK YOU goes to Wolfgang Hesseler. :))))

However, all of them are "silent".
I can't get it to work with my SB-Pro sound card.
(even tried both -W1,220,5,1 and -W4 command line options)

Version 1.00 works fine with SB-Pro (no -W option needed)

The strange thing is:
The new version of QV (v2.44) works fine with this SB-Pro.
(also no -W option needed)

Before anyone asks.... Yes, my environment variable is "set".

(here it is while shelled-out of Arachne)

OS=OPENDOS
VER=7
ARA=ON
PATH=\;C:\1BATCH;C:\1COMMON;C:\;C:\OPENDOS;C:\1ZIP;C:\QEMM;C:\BORLANDC\BIN;C:\NDE
OPENDOSCFG=C:\OPENDOS
BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
COMSPEC=l:\command.com
TEMP=l:\temp
MYIP=207.17.248.131
REMIP=204.179.144.162
NETMASK=252.0.0.0
PEERMRU=1500
OLDPMT=[OPENDOS 7.01] $P$G
PROMPT=You are still online$_Type EXIT to return to Arachne$_$p$g


And yes, a CC of this message is going to Wolfgang. ;-)

- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:01:27 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where did all the good floppy disks go?

O.K. Tom.  Now what doesn't the floppy drive do?

What size floppy are you talking about?

Have the floppies been formatted?

Have you done a CHKDSK on the floppy?

I have used floppies from name companies and from no name companies.  In 
general, the floppies from name companies have been better than the floppies 
from no name companies, but floppies from both have had problems formatting.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA

Thomas Tabler wrote:

. >     Perhaps my imagination, but this is now the second or third
. > manufacturer of floppy diskettes I have tried, with no success.
. > My floppy disk drive will not read them.  Especially bad if I 
. > decide to save a small download to a floppy rather than the 
. > hard drive.  To all out there:  will the AT users of the world
. > unite and demand a decent floppy disk??  Or is Superdrive/Iomega
. > zip drive the only way to go?  Help.

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:09:45 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne Rogues Gallery download failed

On Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:21:56 -0700, Thomas Tabler wrote:

> Dear List:

> I tried the "big" download of the GS {Grammar Sherriff Terri}
> but it failed.  I have 140+ kb DOS memory offline and the error
> message said that my computer has insufficient memory.  This could
> be.  But when I went to the cache file, it read as an empty file.
> This puzzles me.  Could you shed some light on this?

> http:/.....ar-gal.htm, etc., etc.

How much video memory do you have?

That JPEG converted to BMP by Arachne for viewing is going to be a
little over 9MB in size.

Here's what my current cache looks like after clearing it and
loading only http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/tf-port.jpg

L:\ARACHNE>sf.exe -lhstwa cache\*.*
Listing directory: L:\ARACHNE\CACHE\
  Name mask: *.*
92131235.JPG     206459    6-09-2001   20:01:26   -----A--
92131235.BMP    9608054    6-09-2001   20:01:38   -----A--
Sub-Directories: 0
9814513 bytes used in 2 files.

It helped to manually change Arachne.cfg to read as follows...

JPEGargs -bmp -colors 256

L:\ARACHNE>sf.exe -lhstwa cache\*.*
Listing directory: L:\ARACHNE\CACHE\
  Name mask: *.*
92131621.JPG     206459    6-09-2001   20:07:54   -----A--
92131621.BMP    3209078    6-09-2001   20:08:12   -----A--
Sub-Directories: 0
3415537 bytes used in 2 files.

It did not help to change *both* Arachne.cfg *and* Mime.cfg
so that GIFs would be used instead of BMPs.
(the GIF in *this* particular case, is even bigger that the 256c BMP) :(

JPEGargs -gif

- -- mime.cfg line for "online" and "attached" JPEGs ---
image/jpeg  JPG>GIF|$edjpeg32.exe $j $1 $2

L:\ARACHNE>sf.exe -lhstwa cache\*.*
Listing directory: L:\ARACHNE\CACHE\
  Name mask: *.*
92131914.JPG     206459    6-09-2001   20:12:48   -----A--
92131914.GIF    3631411    6-09-2001   20:13:04   -----A--
Sub-Directories: 0
3837870 bytes used in 2 files.

BTW,
These are the lines in mime.cfg that control what Arachne
does with "local" JPEGs. ( file://c:\pics\myhouse.jpg )

file/.jpg            >BMP|$edjpeg32.exe $j $1 $2
file/.jpe            >BMP|$edjpeg32.exe $j $1 $2


BTW2,
Did anyone notice how I did the "body" of the gallery ???
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/ar-gal.htm
(BODY bgcolor="gray" background="file://strobo.gif" text="#ffffff")

The background image is actually a file on your own HDD.
(in your "arachne_main_directory")

So.....
Only Arachne users will get a BG image.
Everyone else will get just a gray background. ;-)

- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 22:42:35 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne dying, lynx in good health?

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:25:51 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:

<snip>

> Even on a relatively simple but long page like
> http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/ky/climate.html
> vertical scrolling with Arachne is slow and clumsy.  Or substitute your state
> (2 letter abbreviation) for ky; this is for the USA, and other people who want
> US weather reports.

You call that "a page" (singular) ???????

That's not "a page".  It's 56 pages long ! :((

I was finally able to get a "virtual screen" created so that I could do
smooth scrolling.

Aracne.cfg manually changed to....

VirtualScreen 30000

According to my calculations....
30,000 x 800 = 24,000,000bytes of memory required to create this vscreen.
(if set-up for 256 colors)
48mb in Hicolor mode.

IMVHO,
You should stop complaining that Arachne can't do "smooth scrolling" on
pages like that. (if you don't have 24MB of memory available for vscreen)

You should *start* complaining to the web page designers who keep making
such ridiculously long pages!!!
(like *that* would do any good) HA ! :((

- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 22:59:05 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne dying, lynx in good health?

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:25:51 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:

<snip>

> Even on a relatively simple but long page like
> http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/ky/climate.html
> vertical scrolling with Arachne is slow and clumsy.  Or substitute your state
> (2 letter abbreviation) for ky; this is for the USA, and other people who want
> US weather reports.

You call that "a page" (singular) ???????

That's not "a page".  It's 56 pages long ! :((

I was finally able to get a "virtual screen" created so that I could do
smooth scrolling.

Arachne.cfg manually changed to....
VirtualScreen 30000

According to my calculations....
30,000 x 800 = 24,000,000bytes of memory required to create this vscreen.

IMVHO,
You should stop complaining that Arachne can't do "smooth scrolling" on
pages like that. (if you don't have 24MB of memory available for vscreen)

You should *start* complaining to the web page designers who keep making
such ridiculously long pages!!!
(like *that* would do any good) HA ! :((

But seriously, you are right.....
We need to figure-out a better way for Arachne to create its vscreens.


- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 22:47:32 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne & WAP(was Re: Arachne dying, lynx in good health?)

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:05:09 +0200, Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Joerg wrote:
>> Arachne and WAP works fine. For an example, try http://wap.ebay.de .

> Hmm... that's not WAP. It's some sort of gateway converting WAP pages into
> HTML pages. Please note that you are redirected to
> http://catalyst.2roam.com/www.ebay.de

> For a real WAP page visit wap.svt.se (although I have no idea what Swedish
> TV has on their wap pages, and you would probably not understand it even if
> Arachne could display it correctly).

 I have no idea what that page is supposed to look like.
So, please disregard this message if it's "way off-base".<g>

http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/is_this_what_WAP_should_look_like.jpg

However,
If it *is* supposed to look like that.......

Then it *should* be very easy to add WAP support to Arachne. :)

All I did was...

1) alter 3 items of the code on http://wap.svt.se/

- -  old       |      new -
- -------------------------
<anchor><go  |       <a
</anchor>    |       </a>
<br/>        |       <br>

2) added this line into mime.cfg

   text/vnd.wap.wml HTM

- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://freedos-32.sourceforge.net/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 23:08:39 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where did all the good floppy disks go?

On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:48:09 -0700, Thomas Tabler wrote:

> Dear List:

> Perhaps my imagination, but this is now the second or third
> manufacturer of floppy diskettes I have tried, with no success.
> My floppy disk drive will not read them.  Especially bad if I
> decide to save a small download to a floppy rather than the
> hard drive.  To all out there:  will the AT users of the world
> unite and demand a decent floppy disk??  Or is Superdrive/Iomega
> zip drive the only way to go?  Help.


Hello Thomas:

Your problem might not have anything to do with the quality of your
floppy disks.  Maybe you just have a dirty floppy disk drive.

My floppy disk drives will accumulate dust and oxides and dead bugs
over a period of time even when in frequent use.  When that happens
I can't use them.  After I use a cleaning diskette treated with the
cleaning solution that comes with the standard kit, then I can use
again my floppy drives and my diskettes.  Floppy drive cleaning kits
are available at Radio Shack and at computer stores and office supply
stores for about five dollars.  If you can't find a cleaning kit for
your floppy drive, then you can readily fabricate a cleaning disk.
Just remove the  magnetic disk from its jacket and insert a circular
piece of suitable cleaning paper in its place.  Put a few drops of
isopropyl alcohol on the cleaning paper and insert your cleaning disk
into the floppy drive and take her for a spin for about 20 seconds.
Usually this will work to fix a floppy drive that has read/write
problems due to a buildup of dust and other contaminants.

Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 23:14:24 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where did all the good floppy disks go?

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 21:01:27 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:

> O.K. Tom.  Now what doesn't the floppy drive do?

> What size floppy are you talking about?

> Have the floppies been formatted?

> Have you done a CHKDSK on the floppy?

> I have used floppies from name companies and from no name companies.  In
> general, the floppies from name companies have been better than the floppies
> from no name companies, but floppies from both have had problems formatting.

I have made the very same observations as Roger.

Sam Heywood

- -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:34:15 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lynx and Graphics

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 23:35:29 +0800, J. J. Young wrote:

> Howard wrote:
>> if worse comes to worse open win 3.11 and use netscape 4.7.

> Absolutely true. There are far "less worse" browsers for Win3.1x
> particularly for machines with less than 16MB RAM. The "historic"
> browsers plus Opera...

> As I generally go images off I really ought to give Lynx a try.
> How much HDD space does it require?

> Regards

> Jake

The download for Doug Kaufman's recent Lynx386 for DOS version is
a zip file of 1,455,601 bytes.  This is version 2.8.4, dev.14.  It
does SSL and it does https very nicely.  Unarchived, this version will
take up 2,399,066 bytes of HDD space.  As you will not find any need
for some of the files you can delete them.  You will probably want to
download and add some other applications such as a mailout and sendmail
feature for your installation.  Also you will want to write a number of
batch files and HTM files to assist you in running your Lynx386.
Although this is a text browser, the user has the option of viewing
individual graphics one at a time by clicking on the links for the
images.

Regards,

Sam Heywood
- -- 
Message sent by Lynx386, version 2.8.4 dev. 14 (DOS)

- -- 
Message sent by Lynx386, version 2.8.4 dev. 14 (DOS)

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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:58:34 +0100
From: "Joerg Dietze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where did all the good floppy disks go?

Hi folks,

I use preformated Maxell or Fuji dikettes and there is no problem.
Perhaps there is something wrong with Your floppy drive?

Regards Joerg

On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:48:09 -0700, Thomas Tabler wrote:

> Dear List:

> Perhaps my imagination, but this is now the second or third
> manufacturer of floppy diskettes I have tried, with no success.
> My floppy disk drive will not read them.  Especially bad if I
> decide to save a small download to a floppy rather than the
> hard drive.  To all out there:  will the AT users of the world
> unite and demand a decent floppy disk??  Or is Superdrive/Iomega
> zip drive the only way to go?  Help.

> Yours,

> Thomas Tabler
> -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, WWW Web browser for DOS--

- -- Arachne V1.70, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:12:14 -0400
From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne dying, lynx in good health?

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001 04:25:51 -0400 (EDT), Thomas Mueller wrote:

> Even on a relatively simple but long page like
> http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/ky/climate.html
> vertical scrolling with Arachne is slow and clumsy.  Or substitute your state
> (2 letter abbreviation) for ky; this is for the USA, and other people who want
> US weather reports.

Yes Thomas, Arachne does not handle that page well, but it's not the
scrolling that's the problem. Maybe the HTML is marginal. I tried it
earlier with NS2.02 and the page worked fine and scrolled fast.
Just now with A1.62 the page loaded fast and page up/down and home/end
worked but nowhere as neatly as Netscape, and the background sky image
just flashed through the slots in Arachne's venetian blind effect.

What can I say. The video drivers are crap and nothing will ever be done
about them because some people believe that "C" is a useful programming
language for such things.

The reason I say the HTML may be marginal is because I also tried the
page with A1.66 and it was incapable of rendering the tables correctly
at all. I didn't bother with A1.70 because I feel it is too slow to be
useful.

Maybe some negativity will generate some activity ??

> DOS users are not left out!
> Try http://www.rahul.net/dkaufman/


- - Clarence Verge
- - Back to using Arachne V1.62 ....

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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:30:14 +0200
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne & WAP(was Re: Arachne dying, lynx in good health?)

> I have no idea what that page is supposed to look like.
>So, please disregard this message if it's "way off-base".<g>
>
>http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/is_this_what_WAP_should_look_like.jpg
>
>However,
>If it *is* supposed to look like that.......

Something like that yes.
However, we should have a form where we can fill in which page to view if
you follow the first link. The HTML version for that page is at
http://www.svt.se/texttv/100.html It's worth to note that the form works in
Arachne (CGI instead of JS). To get the WAP form to work in Arachne we
either need to add a small hack (or complete support) to get the following
to work:

<do type="accept" label="F&#xF6;reg. sida"><prev/></do><do type="options"
label="SVT Text"><go href="700.wml"/></do><do type="options"
label="Inrikes"><go href="101.wml"/></do><do type="options"
label="Utrikes"><go href="104.wml"/></do><do type="options"
label="Ekonomi"><go href="200.wml"/></do><do type="options"
label="Sport"><go href="300.wml"/></do><do type="options"
label="TV-tabl&#xE5;"><go href="600.wml"/></do></template><card id="c100"
title="Nyheter(100)"><do type="options" label="N�sta sida" name="next"><go
href="101.wml"/></do><p><img src="SVT.wbmp" alt="SVT"/><br/>---- SVT TEXT
- ----</p>
<do type="accept" label="G� till sida"><go href="$(sida).wml"/></do>

The statment <go href="$(sida).wml"/> goes to the page (page in swedish is
"sida") inputed in some sort of form (for instance entering 300 would go to
the sports pages).

And the other option would be convert the form into JS, but as I stated
earlier we don't have JS in Arachne anyway.

>Then it *should* be very easy to add WAP support to Arachne. :)

For simple pages yes, for more complicated no. For those we need support
for WMLScript.
I'll read up a bit on the WML 1.1 standard and see if it's easily possible
to add support for it into Arachne.
//Bernie

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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:36:48 +0200
From: "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dynamic font size

I've recently figured something while trying to setup a RAMDrive-based
autoloading diskette of Arachne to use in my office.

I was going to use it on a 386 that was there unused, and i've
configured that version of Arachne to start at 640x480 (the video card is
so old, cant even reach 800x600).

And then it hit me - when using low-res, I always wandered why the
pages look so "big", while in Netscape it somehow looked fine.

Thats because Arachne always use the same font sizes for diffrent
screen resolutions.

If, for example, Arachne will use smaller font sized when using
640x480, instead of using the same fonts that were used on 1024x800,
then the page itself would render alot more readable and comfortable
to use.

I sepose I have some mistakes and wrong assumptions in this letter,
but basicly I hope that you understand the idea...

What do you think?

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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 07:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ken Martwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: something wrong at the roots? 

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Cristian Burneci wrote:

> >  
> > The partition table in the MBR (and IDE drives, I think) can contain
> > up to four entries for "primary" partitions.  If there are logical
> > partitions, one of these entries is a "container" partition for the
> > logical partitions.  There is not a problem accessing more than one
> > primary partition under DOS.  I have a 386 with MS-DOS, PTS-DOS and
> > FreeDOS on separate bootable partitions.  Each OS can readily access
> > all three partitions.
> > Ken Martwick
> 
> So it was only a DOS/Windows FDISK limitation then?

That's right.  Look for the FreeDOS fdisk program it lets you do many
more things.  There's a link at http://www.fdisk.com.
Ken

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Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:02:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: something wrong at the roots?

(begin quote)
   The partition table in the MBR (and IDE drives, I think) can contain
   up to four entries for "primary" partitions.  If there are logical
   partitions, one of these entries is a "container" partition for the
   logical partitions.  There is not a problem accessing more than one
   primary partition under DOS.  I have a 386 with MS-DOS, PTS-DOS and
   FreeDOS on separate bootable partitions.  Each OS can readily access
   all three partitions.
   Ken Martwick
(end of quote)

I didn't know DOS (and OS/2?) could recognize more than one primary partition on
a hard drive, though I wondered how DOS or OS/2 would decide which primary
partition to recognize when booting from a different drive.  OS/2 Warp 3
documentation says multiple primary partitions on a hard disk are all drive C
(on a one-hard-disk system), with only one being accessible at a time.

What are your drive letters, and do the at least two non-C DOSes like to boot
from non-C drive?

Which DOS do you like best, and how if FreeDOS doing?  Is FreeDOS up to serious
business?  Ever run Arachne under FreeDOS?

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