arachne-digest Friday, January 3 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2004
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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:10:35 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA
Hi sheywood!
02 Jan 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> SH> It is believed that the law will be passed and that even
>> SH> President Bush will sign his approval of it.
>> Sam ... I really like your sense of humour !!!
>> Have litterally been laughing out loud for many minutes ...
>> that EVEN is sooooo wonderful ...
s> What I said was not intended as a humorous comment at all.
Bush (both) are known here for doing everything lobbyists want.
Be it the RIAA, the NRA, or the weapon (rocket etc.) lobby (does Iraq war
and star wars program sound a bell ?)
s> It was a serious critical comment.
>From the outside it looks really ridicolous, because this law is exactly what
we believe Bush wants.
even W signs it would be interesting, if it were the Kyoto climate protocol,
social security or human rights ...
THIS would be noteworthy !!!
For the comments he made at the kyoto conference, W should have been shot,
strangled, shot directly into the sun without oxygen ......
I did not know that "land of the free" implied the freedom to destroy the
planet we are living on.
But again ... Americans don't seem to care.
s> Republicans are always saying that support of free enterprise
sure they do ... they support sony, time warner, microsoft ....
s> and innovation is a cornerstone of their political philosophy.
which political party does *NOT* claim this ??
s> Here they are being inconsistent in coming out in favor of a law which
s> would stifle competition in the development of computer software and
s> hardware and operating systems.
on the paper it does not stifle competition, because everybody can
(theoretically) develop TCPA compliant software or hardware.
s> How can a GOOD Republican support the DMCA and the TPCA?
he gets money from the RIAA.
>> SH> It is my opinion that the law, if passed, would soon be repealed
>> SH> due to popular protest.
>> Where is the american protest ??
s> The only reason you don't find many Americans protesting is that
s> most of them don't even know about the DMCA and TPCA.
But whos fault is this ??
There are 2 possibilities:
1) american journalists make the info available, but Americans don't bother to
inform themselves
2) american journalists don't make the info available
So whos fault is it ???
s> I didn't find out about it untill just recently by your posting about
s> it on this mailing list.
This is exactly what I'm talking about.
IMHO this is really a shocking fact, and a extremely poor thing for a country.
>> America was thinking about the DMCA.
>> In Europe it was immediately discussed, and opposed.
>> America introduced the DMCA.
>> Europe still opposed it.
>> Most americans seem not even to have *NOTICED* it.
s> We don't NOTICE it because it isn't being widely mentioned and
s> commented upon here.
What shadow does this cast about journalism in the land of the free ??
s> Only a very few Americans know about it.
sad ... REALLY sad
If this would have happened in an african dictatorship, than it would be
understandable ... but in america which claims to have free journalism ??
SH>> If it is not repealed I think it would be overturned by the
SH>> courts due to concerns as to its constitutionality and over
SH>> concerns about how it violates the anti-monopoly laws.
>> Has not yet happened with the DMCA.
s> A law cannot be repealed or overturned until after it is passed.
The DMCA has been passed a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago > 1 year.
s> Before a proposed law is passed it could be killed in committee, which
s> is probably what would happen with this proposed law if enough
s> Americans were aware that such legislation were under serious
s> consideration.
again ask yourself *WHY* nobody cared, and how much money went into bribing
american journalists.
And how is this possible.
>> So they need TPCA.
>> As long as you have TCPA computers Joe average will NOT be able to
>> copy.
s> Joe Average knows that it is of course a very simple thing to capture
s> an audio output and copy it onto any media he wants, whether to an
s> audio cassette, a reel-to-reel tape, a CD, or even to a vinyl record.
s> DMCA and TPCA technology will not be an effective preventative for
s> copyright theft.
yes they will.
EVERYTHING will be encrypted.
there will be TCPA chips in the monitor, the speakers etc.
So the only possibility would be to film the monitor, or put a microphone
infront of the speakers.
>> Conclusio:
>> Americans stop to shut up, turn on your brain, and oppose the
>> passing of silly laws.
>> And don't forget that there are lobby controlled idiots in high
>> positions ... actually very high ones :((
s> For every powerful lobby group there is also an anti-lobby group.
sad thing is that on the important things do not have powerful
s> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:09:06 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 # 2002
On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 09:39:50-0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reason why I am using this program instead of Arachne right now is
> that I am currently travelling with my laptop and the infernal internal
> mouse is running wild and I can't control it. I have the kind which has
> a tiny little control stick that pokes out of the middle of the keyboard.
> At the slightest touch it goes wild and races all over the screen. I
> can't hold it still so as to position it on a spot long enough to click
> on it. I will disable the internal mouse and I will acquire and install
> an external mouse later. Unlike Clarence, I never learned how to use
> Arachne without a mouse.
Fairly simple to navigate mouseless. Use the arrow keys to move the
cursor left and right, up and down. Hit "enter" to select. Also the
"tab" key jumps the cursor to the next link. That's enough for most
purposes.
"Page Up" and "Page Down" do the obvious. Learning how to use Arachne
without a mouse seems a lot simpler to me than finding, learning and
installing another program.
Customising the "F-" keys for your favorite functions will make
navigation easier as well. It will cut down on the positioning and
clicking needed for everyday tasks.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:35:34
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MTA
On 1 Jan 03 at 13:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>OK, the final topic is MTA, mail transport agent...while it
>is true there are quite a number for DOS, I still vote for
>NetMail DOS 2.12 by Marc Ressl...it is faster and easier
>to setup than any other I've tried, which includes FDSMTPOP.
>As for using stricly CORE.EXE, well...if you can do it, fine.
Glenn,
the funny thing is: For some (unknown) reason the battleship Arachne
is better than most of those specialized programs.
Years ago when we got a computer with a modem to our office and I
wanted to find out if there is a way to connect to the internet
without MS Windows (of course everybody told me: no way!) I
downloaded a number of mail software packets. As e-mail and not WWW
was my main interest, I started from that end: Pegasus mail got me
immediately. But setting up the mail transport was a pain. Even with
those rather well documented tools for beginners (eg. "E-mail within
30 minutes") it took me long frustrating nights. That time I also
discovered Arachne 1.48, and installed it just for fun. I laughed
loud when I saw at the very unserious ikons. Five minutes later
I was online, up- and downloading all kind of things.
And this is like it is still today. I have never used Arachne to read
or compose mail. This is what PMail is for. But when I dial up with
Arachne I always get a connection. And when I send outgoing mail I
see a green bar on the status line. And number and size of incoming
files. And I *know* what is happening. Time and again I reviewed new
versions of smtp/pop3 software on the net and honestly tried to
replace Arachne with something else. But all these programs on some
day at some hour with a certain fat piece of mail used to stall, lock
up or timeout and I could not find out why. So even on my PC386
which is more suitable for offline work than for browsing webpages I
have still a copy of Arachne installed: for mail transport.
>I think though that some of us may be missing the point
>entirely of WHY Arachne was developed in the first place
>back in 1996...xChaos had in mind a complete "Internet Suite"
>for rather obsolete DOS computers.
I think two things came together: Arachne is unique as DOS
*graphical* browser. And Arachne is quite fascinating *toy* (or call
it "Suite") that allows you to put together all kinds of internet and
non-internet tools into one powerful and highly customizable
interface, that is graphical, but keyboard based and therefore can
be even faster than Windows. This toy is so addictive that even
rather serious people start to use a terrible graphical text-editor
to compose their daily e-mail. Or otherwise normal people start to
dream of user-friendly Arachne GUI replacing Windows.
As far as real internet use is considered, here is the internet
"Suite" on my PC386:
TELNET - text only from command line
TRUMPET - online news reader, own non-graphical interface
WGET - download with command line parameter, scripts
FTP - text only from command line, scripts
FDSMTPOP - mail transport, scripts
TCPMAIL - mail transport, scripts
PMAIL - news and mail reader, own non-graphical interface
UKA - news and mail transport, scripts
YARN - news and mail reader, own non-graphical interface
XP - news and mail reader, own non-graphical interface
All these applications *can* share the modem connection with Arachne.
But none of them really needs the Arachne's graphical interface. It
is just convenient to start them from Arachne.
Arachne's raison d'etre, is access to graphical web pages, as the
internet has become more and more graphical. Even though there is
very little information in the graphical stuff, you need to proceed
those icons and pictures in order to get through to the pages that
still contain useful information. It is the same with JS. I have no
idea how long Arachne can survive in this battle. But I am sure that
even when the battle is lost and brave Arachne will be replaced by
Links, Phoenix or others, there will be quite a few unreasonable
sectarians who will continue to use her for - let us say - religious
reasons.
Regards
Christof Lange
P.S.: XChaos is not a sectarian and I think he feels very
uncomfortable in the company of all those religious people.
_______________________________________________
Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic
phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02
http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:49:43
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DGI language
On 2 Jan 03 at 12:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>All you need is a mean to parse the query string, then pass it to the
>DBMS. If only there was a Perl or TCL for DOS...
There are text utilities ported to DOS, though. When I wrote DGI for
some interactive local HTML pages I used rather clumsy DOS utilities
called lmod, gsar and repstr, but meanwhile I have even found tr, sed
and awk for DOS. This would not be enough to take existing scripts
from Linux, but it should be possible to write not too complicated
new scripts parsing the input from Arachne's interface.
Regards
Christof Lange
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Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic
phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02
http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov
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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:28:43 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why can't you simply do FTP instead of doing "browser upload"?
On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:25:29 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote:
> s> With FTP and with Telnet you have to send your password in the clear.
> yes, but FTP has additionally to sending everything in the clear, a very error
> prone protocol.
> I wrote this already by saying that there are many security risks in the FTP
> software.
Ordainary FTP and Telnet are old Internet protocols dating back
to the early days of the Internet when there was no widespread access
to the Internet outside of the university and technical community.
Browsers didn't exist, almost everything was in text mode, there
were no commercial ISP's.
Due to the co-operative and idealistic ethos of the time security
was not a big problem and simple measures like passwords and file
permissions were sufficient.
But that was a long time ago.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 16:11:20 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's important for Arachne's future?
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 12:48:00 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote:
> Sam ... you know that there are many OSes which support programs which support
> JS and SSL ??
> So why starting Windows ?
I suppose I could attempt the Linux learning curve--which would be the
logical choice if I was energetic and virtuous, but I am lazy and
Windows is the road of least resistance and "everybody" else that I
know personally use nothing but Windows.
So in the realm of the ordainary user there isn't much choice.
My computer needs are simple. I just send email and surf the web.
That's all. I could do this in DOS with Arachne improvments. I could
this with Windows without much trouble. I could do this with Linux
after study, learning, experimentation and head scratching.
I like DOS because of it's relative simplicity and because I already
know enough to use it. This is just inertia on my part, not a logical
decision.
I don't care much about computer in themselves. I do admire the
quirky charm of the Unix culture as I've read about it, but installation
and configuration leave me cold as a pastime.
By the way, I do enjoy your postings to the list. They are always
informative and well reasoned.
Maybe I'll make Linux my New Year's project. I keep trying to decide
what to do with the new used computer I bought six months ago. It's
sitting on a table with Win 95 and 98 CD's, a RedHat CD and the install
disks for DR-DOS 6.00. I can't make up my mind.
Maybe it's time to throw out the old boot loader and fire up a
real OS!!
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:27:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Richard Menedetter wrote:
> Hi sheywood!
>
> 02 Jan 2003, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> SH> It is believed that the law will be passed and that even
> >> SH> President Bush will sign his approval of it.
> >> Sam ... I really like your sense of humour !!!
> >> Have litterally been laughing out loud for many minutes ...
> >> that EVEN is sooooo wonderful ...
> s> What I said was not intended as a humorous comment at all.
> Bush (both) are known here for doing everything lobbyists want.
> Be it the RIAA, the NRA, or the weapon (rocket etc.) lobby (does Iraq war
> and star wars program sound a bell ?)
The NRA is a lobby, yes, but it is a people's lobby, a grass-roots lobby.
Most all of their money comes from donations by private citizens and
ordinary folks. The NRA is not driven by industrial interest groups.
>
> s> It was a serious critical comment.
> >From the outside it looks really ridicolous, because this law is exactly what
> we believe Bush wants.
>
> even W signs it would be interesting, if it were the Kyoto climate protocol,
> social security or human rights ...
> THIS would be noteworthy !!!
>
> For the comments he made at the kyoto conference, W should have been shot,
> strangled, shot directly into the sun without oxygen ......
> I did not know that "land of the free" implied the freedom to destroy the
> planet we are living on.
>
> But again ... Americans don't seem to care.
>
The reason why industrial plants in Japan have modern anti-pollution
technology is that they were built with money given to them by the
US so that they could rebuild their economy after WWII. In the US we
still have many factories and power plants in full production and
operating under pre-1940 technology.
> s> Republicans are always saying that support of free enterprise
> sure they do ... they support sony, time warner, microsoft ....
Why would they support Micro$oft? Bill Gates is well known for his
liberal political views. He made big donations to the Democratic
Party. The Clinton administration prosecuted him anyway. Bill Gates
is still a liberal politically. Maybe he likes the Democrats because
the prosecutors went very easy with him and let him get away with a lot
of stuff. Bill Gates and Micro$oft are certainly just as bad as
the Republican Rockefellers who ran Standard Oil of New Jersey. The
Rockefellers didn't get away with anything. They threw the book at them.
The courts forced Standard Oil to split up completely.
> s> and innovation is a cornerstone of their political philosophy.
> which political party does *NOT* claim this ??
>
> s> Here they are being inconsistent in coming out in favor of a law which
> s> would stifle competition in the development of computer software and
> s> hardware and operating systems.
> on the paper it does not stifle competition, because everybody can
> (theoretically) develop TCPA compliant software or hardware.
If someone develops "open source" TCPA compliant software and hardware
then anyone can remove the TCPA parts and recompile it or re-design it
to suit their own needs.
>
> s> How can a GOOD Republican support the DMCA and the TPCA?
> he gets money from the RIAA.
>
> >> SH> It is my opinion that the law, if passed, would soon be repealed
> >> SH> due to popular protest.
> >> Where is the american protest ??
> s> The only reason you don't find many Americans protesting is that
> s> most of them don't even know about the DMCA and TPCA.
> But whos fault is this ??
It is the fault of the American News Media for neglecting to publicize
it. On most controversial issues the news channels hold debates and
panel discussions so that the public will hear both sides of the issues.
I haven't heard EITHER side of this issue from the news media. I didn't
even know of the existence of this issue until just recently.
>
> There are 2 possibilities:
> 1) american journalists make the info available, but Americans don't bother to
> inform themselves
> 2) american journalists don't make the info available
>
> So whos fault is it ???
>
> s> I didn't find out about it untill just recently by your posting about
> s> it on this mailing list.
> This is exactly what I'm talking about.
> IMHO this is really a shocking fact, and a extremely poor thing for a country.
>
> >> America was thinking about the DMCA.
> >> In Europe it was immediately discussed, and opposed.
> >> America introduced the DMCA.
> >> Europe still opposed it.
> >> Most americans seem not even to have *NOTICED* it.
> s> We don't NOTICE it because it isn't being widely mentioned and
> s> commented upon here.
> What shadow does this cast about journalism in the land of the free ??
>
> s> Only a very few Americans know about it.
> sad ... REALLY sad
>
> If this would have happened in an african dictatorship, than it would be
> understandable ... but in america which claims to have free journalism ??
>
> SH>> If it is not repealed I think it would be overturned by the
> SH>> courts due to concerns as to its constitutionality and over
> SH>> concerns about how it violates the anti-monopoly laws.
> >> Has not yet happened with the DMCA.
> s> A law cannot be repealed or overturned until after it is passed.
> The DMCA has been passed a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago > 1 year.
>
> s> Before a proposed law is passed it could be killed in committee, which
> s> is probably what would happen with this proposed law if enough
> s> Americans were aware that such legislation were under serious
> s> consideration.
> again ask yourself *WHY* nobody cared, and how much money went into bribing
> american journalists.
> And how is this possible.
>
> >> So they need TPCA.
> >> As long as you have TCPA computers Joe average will NOT be able to
> >> copy.
> s> Joe Average knows that it is of course a very simple thing to capture
> s> an audio output and copy it onto any media he wants, whether to an
> s> audio cassette, a reel-to-reel tape, a CD, or even to a vinyl record.
> s> DMCA and TPCA technology will not be an effective preventative for
> s> copyright theft.
> yes they will.
> EVERYTHING will be encrypted.
> there will be TCPA chips in the monitor, the speakers etc.
> So the only possibility would be to film the monitor, or put a microphone
> infront of the speakers.
>
That really sux. What if you want to hook up some super quality
speakers and earphones to your audio equipment instead of using just
the cheaply built hardware provided by some PC-manufacturer?
> >> Conclusio:
> >> Americans stop to shut up, turn on your brain, and oppose the
> >> passing of silly laws.
>
> >> And don't forget that there are lobby controlled idiots in high
> >> positions ... actually very high ones :((
> s> For every powerful lobby group there is also an anti-lobby group.
> sad thing is that on the important things do not have powerful
>
> s> Sam Heywood
>
Sam Heywood
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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:43:12 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: What's important for Arachne's future?
Hi Sam!
01 Jan 2003, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sam ... you know that there are many OSes which support programs
>> which support JS and SSL ??
SE> I suppose I could attempt the Linux learning curve
There has been much done by various distributors.
As long as you don't want to do much more than a regular windows user, Linux is
now as easy to use and install.
Naturally if somebody wants to use a mini distribution on a 4 MB 386 than there
is much hand work included.
SE> So in the realm of the ordainary user there isn't much choice.
There is.
A friend of mine, who has never used linux before and is was an average windows
user, installed Redhat 8 without any help.
(afterwards he told me that there was one bluescreen too many :)
SE> My computer needs are simple. I just send email and surf the web.
SE> I could do this with Linux after study, learning, experimentation and
SE> head scratching.
times have changed :)
SE> but installation and configuration leave me cold as a pastime.
all modern and bigger distributions come with graphical installers, and
hardware auto configuration.
SE> By the way, I do enjoy your postings to the list.
SE> They are always informative and well reasoned.
thanx very much
SE> Maybe I'll make Linux my New Year's project. I keep trying to decide
SE> what to do with the new used computer I bought six months ago. It's
SE> sitting on a table with Win 95 and 98 CD's, a RedHat CD and the
SE> install disks for DR-DOS 6.00. I can't make up my mind.
If you have a bit time try redhat first, if you don't like it, go with winXX
(depending on memory < 64 MB win95, >=64 MB win98)
if your HDD is big enough you can easily dual boot. (first install windows in a
partition, than install linux in the remaining free space. The linux installer
notices windows, and should automatically configure dual boot.)
SE> Maybe it's time to throw out the old boot loader and fire up a
SE> real OS!!
:))
win95/98 only partly fall into this category :)
if you have >=128 MB ram, you can try dualbooting win2000 (only real OS from M$
except NT [XP is also a toy ... which does not qualify as OS :)]) and Linux.
SE> Sam Ewalt
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 22:59:42 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA
Hi Samuel!
02 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> But again ... Americans don't seem to care.
SH> The reason why industrial plants in Japan have modern anti-pollution
SH> technology is that they were built with money given to them by the
SH> US so that they could rebuild their economy after WWII. In the US we
SH> still have many factories and power plants in full production and
SH> operating under pre-1940 technology.
This is not the reasoning of W.
He says that the only important thing is economy, the rest does not matter.
PS: Naturally laws only affect *NEWLY* built factories/plants ... but there is
no initiative from the US government.
PPS: IMNSHO transferring some money from the ridicolously overfinanced military
and giving it to climate measurements and social ensurance would be a good
idea.
But this is only my oppinion.
Fact is that half of the CO2 emission comes from the USA.
This is the reason why kyoto without USA is not much worth, and this is also
the cause why so many people "do not like" W for this.
>> s> Republicans are always saying that support of free enterprise
>> sure they do ... they support sony, time warner, microsoft ....
SH> Why would they support Micro$oft?
Easy $$$
M$ brings america many bucks out of taxes.
And if they manag to pass the new TPCA laws these $$$ willl be even more.
SH> Maybe he likes the Democrats because the prosecutors went very easy
SH> with him and let him get away with a lot of stuff.
The same is true for republican administration.
At the end it seems that no US government wants to stop the $$$ source.
>> on the paper it does not stifle competition, because everybody can
>> (theoretically) develop TCPA compliant software or hardware.
SH> If someone develops "open source" TCPA compliant software and hardware
SH> then anyone can remove the TCPA parts and recompile it or re-design it
SH> to suit their own needs.
it is illegal to recompile the OS without immediately beginning TCPA testing.
So the TCPA is in theory compatible with the open source movement, but not with
exsiting licenses (at least not with the GPL)
>> >> SH> It is my opinion that the law, if passed, would soon be
>> >> SH> repealed due to popular protest.
>> >> Where is the american protest ??
>> s> The only reason you don't find many Americans protesting is that
>> s> most of them don't even know about the DMCA and TPCA.
>> But whos fault is this ??
SH> It is the fault of the American News Media for neglecting to publicize
SH> it. On most controversial issues the news channels hold debates and
SH> panel discussions so that the public will hear both sides of the
SH> issues. I haven't heard EITHER side of this issue from the news media.
SH> I didn't even know of the existence of this issue until just recently.
And this is what is IMHO a *HUGE CATASTROPHY* for a civilised country.
How can this happen ??
Either journalists are so apathetical, that they don't care, or the big news
companies censor such stories.
I don't see any other possibility, and this is VERY, VERY, VERY sad.
>> s> DMCA and TPCA technology will not be an
>> s> effective preventative for copyright theft.
>> yes they will.
>> EVERYTHING will be encrypted.
>> there will be TCPA chips in the monitor, the speakers etc.
>> So the only possibility would be to film the monitor, or put a
>> microphone infront of the speakers.
SH> That really sux. What if you want to hook up some super quality
SH> speakers and earphones to your audio equipment instead of using just
SH> the cheaply built hardware provided by some PC-manufacturer?
as long as you bought the speaker after the TCPA law introduction, there will
be no problem, because they contain a TCPA chip ... if not, than ??? who knows
SH> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:00:18
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: bug: A171;UE01 text print header line
In the first line of the header that Arachne inserts for the
text print function (key 'p') the right margin is not
correct.
Example:
Title of page Arachne 1.71;UE01
URL Date_and_time~~~~~
The part ;UE01 is exeeding the margin.
Christof Lange
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Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic
phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02
http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:32:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44
There seems to be a discrepancy here. Your message id
says you're using version 4.33.
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Compare that to the message ID on this e-mail, for
instance.
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Steve Ackman
http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?)
http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:49:44 -0500 (EST)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mail Definitions
> > OK, the final topic is MTA, mail transport agent...while it
> Also I have tried many other mail transport agents for DOS.
I've noticed an increasing use of the terms MTA and Mail
Transport Agent lately to mean MUA.
This is inaccurate, and ultimately will lead to
misunderstandings. For clarification, an MTA is the mail
server software... the daemons that send and receive all
that internet e-mail behind the scenes. Unless you are a
'nix guru, it is highly unlikely you ever have any
interaction with the MTA.
MTA - Mail Transport Agent; sendmail, qmail, etc.
Sends and receives e-mail at the server level.
MDA - Mail Delivery Agent; mail, procmail, etc.
Usually only used on multi-user systems. Sendmail can act
as both MTA and MDA, but on systems with dedicated MTA's, an
additional MDA may be necessary.
MUA - Mail User Agent; Arachne, Netscape, PINE, etc.
This is the software used to retrieve, send, read, and
compose e-mail at the user level. 99% of people using
e-mail will never know anything more about e-mail than what
they know about their MUA.
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Steve Ackman
http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?)
http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 20:55:01
From: Alejandro Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: External use of Insight
On 1 Jan 03 at 21:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply to List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >With UKA_PPP do:
> >
> >a) For pop3:
> >tcpport.exe pop3.mail.domain 110 x_popn.exe user:password
> >
> >b) For smtp:
> >tcpport.exe smtp.mail.domain 25 x_mailn.exe
> >
> >Both x_*.exe are written in QuickBasic and work very well in this
> >80286.
>
> Hi Alejandro,
>
> that is quite interesting. I had a look at the two binaries with
> these names in my uka_ppp directory. There was no readable text inside
> indicating a compiler. Do you have access to a Basic source?
>
> Although I had been playing some time with uka_ppp I did not
> figure out how it handles outgoing mail. What file format is
> required? Will it be able to use Arachne's .tbs? What about
> Pmail .msg files? Do you know of any documentation on this issue?
>
> Christof Lange
The outgoing mail should be in: C:\UKA_PPP\SPOOL\M0000.OUT
M0000.OUT:
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alejandro Lieber)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bcc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: through x_mailn.exe
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 20:32:27 -0500
Organization: Only DOS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lines: 9
This message written with YARN ver 0.92
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I have the QuickBasic source for both x_*.exe
I can send them to you by email.
Of the 100+ files in uka_ppp, I only use 5.
To read and write mail and news, I use YARN ver 0.92.
Free good Sans Serif fonts for MS-DOS at:
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/graphics/novafo01.zip
http://www.simtel.net/pub/msdos/graphics/novafo01.zip
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Ing. Alejandro Lieber
Rosario Argentina
lima[at]citynet.net.ar
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