arachne-digest Friday, January 3 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2005
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:41:42 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: bug: A171;UE01 text print header line On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:00:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In the first line of the header that Arachne inserts for the > text print function (key 'p') the right margin is not > correct. > Example: > Title of page Arachne 1.71;UE01 > URL Date_and_time~~~~~ > The part ;UE01 is exeeding the margin. > Christof Lange You will be glad to here that yours is the very first "fix" to be done for the next "User Edition". :)) (several other suggestions are ready to do but not yet done) Mail:bug: A171;UE01 text print header line Arachne 1.73;UE02 file:L:\arachne\mail\41549397.cnm Thu, 02 Jan 2003 19:32:47 _____________________________ clipped-out ^10 spaces for eMailing_____ - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 01:56:44 +0100 From: Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TCPA ? >as long as you bought the speaker after the TCPA law introduction, >there will >be no problem, because they contain a TCPA chip ... if not, than ??? >who knows I know very little about that... so it will be illegal to sell pre-TCPA hardware in USA after introduction of that law? Well, it is just the time to start building our independent czFree.Net using Wi-Fi, optical links, etc.... better build it now, while unregulated hardware is still available... - -- Michael "xChaos" Polak, +420 603 872 631 http://www.czfree.net - Prague WiFi community http://arachne.cz/ - webhosting, Linux, WWW browser Arachne http://teckacz.cz/ - e-zine pro roztristene vedomi http://mp3records.cz/ - download music 100% legal and free http://vojna.cz/ - hnuti za zruseni vojenske i civilni sluzby http://legalizace.cz/ - stop drug war and release victims! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:12:25 -0300 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: DGI language / Python for DOS ? Hey, for the Arachne experienced users , what about this scripting language ( a response for those thinking of unexistent Perl or TCL for DOS) www.python.org has a DOS version and there is free snippets of code out there. By far Python is one of the most OOP readable languages ! for example not () { { } } not () at all !!!!!! :) better yet...... a) code fully portable to Java thorough www.jpython.org and b)( cross platform (DOS, Win, Linux, DEC, SGI, etc.) Anybody in the list with skills to code CGI snippets parsed with Python ? Elliot - ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: DGI language > On 2 Jan 03 at 12:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >All you need is a mean to parse the query string, then pass it to the > >DBMS. If only there was a Perl or TCL for DOS... > > There are text utilities ported to DOS, though. When I wrote DGI for > some interactive local HTML pages I used rather clumsy DOS utilities > called lmod, gsar and repstr, but meanwhile I have even found tr, sed > and awk for DOS. This would not be enough to take existing scripts > from Linux, but it should be possible to write not too complicated > new scripts parsing the input from Arachne's interface. > > Regards > Christof Lange > > _______________________________________________ > > Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic > phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02 > http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 21:16:04 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA Hi Ricsi, I have found your posts on this topic interesting. You are an intelligent person and familiar with the way American government works. Your passion on this subject, which I am very ignorant about, prompts me to ask you some questions: What is DMCA and what is it supposed to do? Do you have a bill number and the outcome of any votes in either the House of Representatives or the Senate? Do you have a copy of the bill that the President is ready to sign or has already signed? Could you identify the American journalists that have been bribed? Who did the bribing and what is the going cost of a bribe, in today's dollars? Thanks! Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 22:32:03 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: DGI language / Python for DOS ? For the techno-literates, Previously, under Win-doze, I was able to use Jan Verhoeven's SERVING program as an HTML-DBMS interface. Unfortunately, it is written in Small Pascal and doesn't run under DOS. It was a lot of work for me to set up, mostly because I'm not a code writer. It would probably be easy for those of you who understand such things.. Nevertheless, it was fun to play with Serving and interface from the web page directly with the data, if only because all my friends said it couldn't be done. I copied the following from one of Serving's update pages, in case the links are of interest to anybody. Bob - - - - Serving SmallPascal Update: SmallPascal is based on the Pascal interpreter in the R&A Library 1.51. This excellent Delphi freeware library is created by Andrey Prigunkov and Roman Tkachev. I thank both authors for making this freeware library available. The library can be found at: http://www.infa.ru/black/ralib.htm This help file and the extensions in SmallPascal are written by Jan Verhoeven with Delphi 5. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jansfreeware.com WebSite http://members.xoom.com/JanVee/freeware.htm - - - - On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:12:25 -0300 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey, > > for the Arachne experienced users , what about > this scripting language ( a response for those thinking of > unexistent Perl > or TCL for DOS) > > www.python.org has a DOS version and there is free snippets of code > out > there. > > By far Python is one of the most OOP readable languages ! for > example > > not () > { > { > > } > } > > not () > > at all !!!!!! > > :) > > better yet...... > a) code fully portable to Java thorough www.jpython.org and b)( > cross > platform (DOS, Win, Linux, DEC, SGI, etc.) > > Anybody in the list with skills to code CGI snippets parsed with > Python ? > > Elliot > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 6:49 PM > Subject: DGI language > > > > On 2 Jan 03 at 12:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >All you need is a mean to parse the query string, then pass it to > the > > >DBMS. If only there was a Perl or TCL for DOS... > > > > There are text utilities ported to DOS, though. When I wrote DGI > for > > some interactive local HTML pages I used rather clumsy DOS > utilities > > called lmod, gsar and repstr, but meanwhile I have even found tr, > sed > > and awk for DOS. This would not be enough to take existing > scripts > > from Linux, but it should be possible to write not too > complicated > > new scripts parsing the input from Arachne's interface. > > > > Regards > > Christof Lange > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic > > phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02 > > http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 05:50:20 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Richard Menedetter wrote: > Hi Samuel! > > 02 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <snipped political commentary> > >> on the paper it does not stifle competition, because everybody can > >> (theoretically) develop TCPA compliant software or hardware. > SH> If someone develops "open source" TCPA compliant software and hardware > SH> then anyone can remove the TCPA parts and recompile it or re-design it > SH> to suit their own needs. > it is illegal to recompile the OS without immediately beginning TCPA testing. > So the TCPA is in theory compatible with the open source movement, but not with > exsiting licenses (at least not with the GPL) > Nobody will ever know whether you test anything after you compile a program, nor would anyone ever know if you ever compile any programs unless you give someone access to your computer files. > >> s> most of them don't even know about the DMCA and TPCA. > >> But whos fault is this ?? > SH> It is the fault of the American News Media for neglecting to publicize > SH> it. On most controversial issues the news channels hold debates and > SH> panel discussions so that the public will hear both sides of the > SH> issues. I haven't heard EITHER side of this issue from the news media. > SH> I didn't even know of the existence of this issue until just recently. > And this is what is IMHO a *HUGE CATASTROPHY* for a civilised country. Yes, it is a huge catastrophe whenever the government is up to doing something very controversial and the people don't even know about it. > > How can this happen ?? > Either journalists are so apathetical, that they don't care, or the big news > companies censor such stories. > > I don't see any other possibility, and this is VERY, VERY, VERY sad. Yes, it is. > > >> s> DMCA and TPCA technology will not be an > >> s> effective preventative for copyright theft. > >> yes they will. > >> EVERYTHING will be encrypted. > >> there will be TCPA chips in the monitor, the speakers etc. > >> So the only possibility would be to film the monitor, or put a > >> microphone infront of the speakers. > SH> That really sux. What if you want to hook up some super quality > SH> speakers and earphones to your audio equipment instead of using just > SH> the cheaply built hardware provided by some PC-manufacturer? > as long as you bought the speaker after the TCPA law introduction, there will > be no problem, because they contain a TCPA chip ... if not, than ??? who knows People will just continue to use some very fine outdated equipment, of which there is quite a sufficient abundance at very reasonable prices. In my area there are some popular rock music and country music groups that are still using vacuum tube amplifiers from the early 1960's. According to them, their audio equipment is superior to the expensive modern stuff. The only disadvantages to using such equipment is that it is much more heavy and bulky and it consumes much more power, and it requires more technical skills to tweak the adjustments properly. Finding unused replacement vacuum tubes manufactured many decades ago is not a problem for people who know the right people to deal with. Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 06:01:11 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Steve wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > > > -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 > > There seems to be a discrepancy here. Your message id > says you're using version 4.33. > > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Compare that to the message ID on this e-mail, for > instance. > > -- > Steve Ackman > http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) > http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) I don't know how to interpret the message ID. It is my understanding, and there are indications elswhere in my program that I am using version 4.44. My sig is just something I set up myself. It was not automagically written by the program. The info in my sig might be wrong. Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 01:21:39 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2002 Excerpt from "Glenn Gilbreath Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OK, the final topic is MTA, mail transport agent...while it > is true there are quite a number for DOS, I still vote for > NetMail DOS 2.12 by Marc Ressl...it is faster and easier > to setup than any other I've tried, which includes FDSMTPOP. I find one serious flaw with NetMail DOS including 2.12 on downloading (POP3). When an email message has one or more lines of 1024 characters, NetMail downloads the message but then hangs, going into an infinite loop of adding whitespace to the downloaded message, was up to about 3 MB when I hit Ctrl-C and stopped it. Then all messages remain on the POP3 server, including those messages that downloaded successfully prior to the message with the line(s) of 1024 characters. UKA_PPP breezes through with no problem. I would get such long lines occasionally with about.com newsletters, occasionally with another newsletter I never subscribed to, and more recently with some base64-encoded Korean spams. With some of those base64-encoded Korean spams, the base64 code would go all the way on one line through character 1024, then character 1025 would start the next line, etc. I'm not sure what the RFCs say about line length in mail and news messages, but a mail and/or news client needs to be able to take a little rough treatment, should not crash just because a message deviates from standards. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 0:48:33 -0600 From: "Glenn Gilbreath Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne "Inferior" On Thursday, we read from Bob.. > For users to somehow imply that Arachne is inferior > because it doesn't interface well with XML docs, or some DB2 > or FoxPro database is sort of silly, IMNSHO. A search of past email reveals ZERO use of the word INFERIOR. But, maybe I deleted those emails. At any rate, I don't recall anyone suggesting that Arachne was inferior. Not extended in the directions some might find useful, but never inferior. My favorite adjective happens to be GREAT. I'm hoping for greatER. Bob, I agree, which is why Glennmcc is working on the "User Edition". I also did not say that someone used the exact phrase of Arachne being inferior, but, I do remember reading from someone, just can't remember whom, that xChaos (Michael Polak) HAD made a mistake by not incorporating database access into Arachne. That was my point. By the way, what is so terrible with "shelling" to run a batch file to call your DB manager, then take the output from the DB manager, convert it to HTML, then render with Arachne... the batch file only needs one line at the end ..."exit" and Arachne will restart autmagically. I know I've seen DBtoHTML converters on the net...don't know if it was strictly DOS only or not though. But, most DB manager type programs DO have an "export" function, so you could just export the database to a text file, then run it through text2htm, and use Arachne to view your converted data...just an idea. C U L8R! <{;-) To everyone in discussion about TCPA, DRM etc., Folks, I told everyone on this list about this nightmare some 6 or 8 months ago! Remember? Remember my sarcasm about Microsoft bastardizing the TCP/IP protocol, after it has dumped millions of hackable servers onto the market, it will claim to have the "fix", but in order to implement, all TCP/IP must upgrade to the new Microsoft TCP/MS protocols! This is what Microsoft is calling "Palladium"... and the "Fritz" chip...if anyone didn't read about that last summer, go to www.pbs.org and do a search for Cringely, under Palladium, and you will find links to some rather disturbing trends already underfoot! C U L8R! <{;-) Wiz Glenn ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 07:59:01 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mail Definitions On 3 Jan 03 at 1:42, owner-arachne-digest@arachne wrote: >Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply to List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > OK, the final topic is MTA, mail transport agent...while it >> Also I have tried many other mail transport agents for DOS. > > I've noticed an increasing use of the terms MTA and Mail >Transport Agent lately to mean MUA. >MUA - Mail User Agent; Arachne, Netscape, PINE, etc. >This is the software used to retrieve, send, read, and >compose e-mail at the user level. 99% of people using >e-mail will never know anything more about e-mail than what >they know about their MUA. Thank you for making this discussion a bit clearer, Steve. I still, however, do not no how to call those non-resident DOS MUAs which only retrieve and send mail (online) in opposition to those which I use to read and compose (offline). Any more acronyms? Regards Christof Lange _______________________________________________ Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02 http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 14:29:57 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [none] > >MUA - Mail User Agent; Arachne, Netscape, PINE, etc. > >This is the software used to retrieve, send, read, and > >compose e-mail at the user level. 99% of people using > >e-mail will never know anything more about e-mail than what > >they know about their MUA. > > Thank you for making this discussion a bit clearer, Steve. I still, > however, do not no how to call those non-resident DOS MUAs which only > retrieve and send mail (online) in opposition to those which I use to > read and compose (offline). Any more acronyms? If the program retrieves mail from a POP server, and/or sends it to an SMTP server, then it's still a Mail User Agent... even if it's sending files unrelated to e-mail, or messages composed on other software. That said, many mail programs fall into more than just one category. Fetchmail is both MUA and MDA, since it retrieves mail from POP servers, and then delivers it to the appropriate system users. Sendmail serves both functions of MTA and MDA. It receives mail directly from other MTAs, it sends mail directly to other MTAs, and it delivers system mail to appropriate users. Lines do get a bit blurry sometimes. If you 'telnet ns.arachne.cz 25' and manually type in your e-mail on the remote system (as I've done with this message), then you're basically not using an MUA at all, and are using telnet as a kind of manual MTA... or is telnet a manual MUA and you're just not using a sending MTA at all? Yes, definitions can get fuzzy. ;-) - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:11:16 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA Hi Roger! 02 Jan 2003, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RT> What is DMCA and what is it supposed to do? digital millenium copyright act a law that was passed, which among other things forbades circumventing DRM (digital rights management) measures. The porblem is that it is soooo extremely biased towards the RIAA and big entertainment companies, that it is easily abused. http://anti-dmca.org/ RT> Do you have a bill number and the outcome of any votes in either the RT> House of Representatives or the Senate? Do you have a copy of the RT> bill that the President is ready to sign or has already signed? sorry ... no I only know that it was long ago passed ... (clinton era ??) ok I have searched ... it was passed dec. 1998 http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf RT> Could you identify the American journalists that have been bribed? RT> Who did the bribing and what is the going cost of a bribe, in today's RT> dollars? This was only my fantasyzing. There were no facts ... I simply asked myself how it is possible that all major journalists shut up when such an important issue is at stake. And bribing was the easiest sollution ... but it can naturally be other things. I can only repeat myself it is a shame that such things can happen, and that journalists don't care (??) to inform the population. Hell ... even kernel-traffic (linux kernel ML summary) wrote about it: Kernel Traffic #132 For 10 Sep 2001: The EFF has issued a call for action regarding Dmitry Sklyarov, who faces up to 25 years in prison for violating the DMCA. I urge everyone to participate in the letter-writing campaign currently in effect. Please do what you can to help prevent what threatens to become a terrible tragedy. For more information on the case, see http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Sklyarov/. For more information on the DMCA, see http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/. To join the mailing list surrounding this issue, see http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov/. Kernel Traffic #148 For 31 Dec 2001 Elsewhere, Aaron suggested that Linux could bypass the hardware security by reverse-engineering the behavior and implementing it in software. But Dave Jones pointed out, "Remember DMCA ? Remember SSSCA ? What you propose is classed as "Bypassing an access control"." Kernel Traffic #161 For 8 Apr 2002 David Rees was unable to find the changelog for 2.2.20 on kernel.org, and Alan Cox said, "For non US citizens its available on http://www.thefreeworld.net"; Rasmus Bag Hansen asked how it could be possible that the patch would be legal in the US, but the changelog would not be. Mike Fedyk replied, "Basically, the politicians can't read the patch, but they might be able to understand the summary... Also, in many cases the change that fixes the security hole doesn't make exploit ideas obvious. While many times the security report includes the expliot itself." End of thread. Kernel Traffic #138 For 22 Oct 2001 An unidentified person suggested that modules could simply lie about their licensing and bypass these safeguards altogether, but Alan replied, "under the DMCA thats probably a criminal offence with five years in jail. I hope that this is enough for a wake-up call ... RT> Roger Turk CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> Money is the root of all evil, but man needs roots <=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:03:15 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: TCPA ? Hi Michael! 03 Jan 2003, Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> as long as you bought the speaker after the TCPA law introduction, >> there will be no problem, because they contain a TCPA chip ... if not, >> than ??? who knows MP> I know very little about that... TPCA (technology not law) can be found here http://www.trustedcomputing.org/tcpaasp4/index.asp or better :) http://www.notcpa.org/ I'm also no expert ... but this trend is very scaring IMHO ... the TCPA law is not yet passed ... and it will take some time ... MP> so it will be illegal to sell pre-TCPA hardware in USA after MP> introduction of that law? IMHO not ... it will (as of now) only be illegal to produce new hardware which is not TPCA compliant. MP> Well, it is just the time to start building our independent czFree.Net MP> using Wi-Fi, optical links, etc.... better build it now, while MP> unregulated hardware is still available... yepp ... forgive my ignorance ... but what is wi-fi ?? wlan ?? MP> Michael "xChaos" Polak, +420 603 872 631 CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> Middle age: When age starts to show at your middle <=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:47:54 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Fw: DGI language / Python for DOS ? Hi bobdohse! 02 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b> HTML-DBMS interface Grab linux ... install apache, mysql or postgre, a scripiting language of yopur choice (php, perl .....) and ready. Where is the problem ?? it is as easy as: (with php/mysql ... other combinations are also not harder to do) it will read data from the database and print it into a table. === Begin file === <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>MySQL Example</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <?php $link = mysql_connect("localhost", "ricsi", "") or die ("Could not connect"); mysql_select_db ("test") or die ("Could not select database"); print ("<h1>MySQL example<br></h1>\n"); $query = "SELECT * FROM test"; $result = mysql_query ($query) or die ("Query failed"); print "<table border=5>\n<tr><td>id</td>\n<td>name</td></tr>\n"; while ($row = mysql_fetch_array ($result)) { echo "<tr><td>".$row[0]."</td>\n"; echo "<td>".$row[1]."</td></tr>\n"; } print "</table>\n"; mysql_close($link); ?> </BODY> </HTML> === End file === If you only want to search/insert manually, you could even use phpmyadmin, and have online www access to your database. b> Bob CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> Time is the dressmaker specializing in alterations <=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:41:18 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TCPA ? Ricsi wrote: . > the TCPA law is not yet passed ... and it will take some time ... In fact, a bill has not yet been introduced in either the House or Senate. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:41:16 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA Hi Ricsi, I went to the U. S. Senate web site <www.senate.gov> and did a search for DMCA and came up with HR5522, (House of Representatives bill number 5522) which was introduced in October, 2002 and is now assigned to the courts subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee which is currently holding hearings on the bill. Transcripts of testimony before the subcommittee is available on the House web site <www.house.gov>. Rather than reading what someone else has said about the bill, I read the bill itself. It appears to do the opposite of what you state. It states that it is NOT a copyright violation to make archival copies of digital media. The bill is very short and appears to be very favorable towards users of computers and digital media with regard to copyright protection. As far as bribery of journalists goes, I think that there are far too many journalists in the U. S. looking for a Pulitzer prize winning story for anybody to bribe all of them. After all, it was journalists that broke up Tammany Hall political corruption in New York City, and the <name escapes me> corrupt Kansas City government and probably brought to light 1001 other improper activities of governments throughout the country. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Ricsi wrote: . > Hi Roger! . > 02 Jan 2003, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: . > RT> What is DMCA and what is it supposed to do? . > digital millenium copyright act . > a law that was passed, which among other things forbades circumventing DRM . > (digital rights management) measures. . > The porblem is that it is soooo extremely biased towards the RIAA and big . > entertainment companies, that it is easily abused. . > http://anti-dmca.org/ . > RT> Do you have a bill number and the outcome of any votes in either the . > RT> House of Representatives or the Senate? Do you have a copy of the . > RT> bill that the President is ready to sign or has already signed? . > sorry ... no . > I only know that it was long ago passed ... (clinton era ??) . > ok I have searched ... it was passed dec. 1998 . > http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf . > RT> Could you identify the American journalists that have been bribed? . > RT> Who did the bribing and what is the going cost of a bribe, in today's . > RT> dollars? . > This was only my fantasyzing. . > There were no facts ... . > I simply asked myself how it is possible that all major journalists shut . > up when such an important issue is at stake. . > And bribing was the easiest sollution ... . > but it can naturally be other things. . > I can only repeat myself it is a shame that such things can happen, and . > that journalists don't care (??) to inform the population. . > Hell ... even kernel-traffic (linux kernel ML summary) wrote about it: . > Kernel Traffic #132 For 10 Sep 2001: . > The EFF has issued a call for action regarding Dmitry Sklyarov, who faces . > up to . > 25 years in prison for violating the DMCA. I urge everyone to participate . > in the letter-writing campaign currently in effect. Please do what you . > can to help . > prevent what threatens to become a terrible tragedy. For more information . > on the case, see http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/US_v_Sklyarov/. For more . > information on the DMCA, see http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/. To join the . > mailing list surrounding this issue, see . > http://zork.net/mailman/listinfo/free-sklyarov/. . > Kernel Traffic #148 For 31 Dec 2001 . > Elsewhere, Aaron suggested that Linux could bypass the hardware security . > by reverse-engineering the behavior and implementing it in software. But . > Dave Jones pointed out, "Remember DMCA ? Remember SSSCA ? What you . > propose is classed as "Bypassing an access control"." . > Kernel Traffic #161 For 8 Apr 2002 . > David Rees was unable to find the changelog for 2.2.20 on kernel.org, and . > Alan Cox said, "For non US citizens its available on . > http://www.thefreeworld.net"; Rasmus Bag Hansen asked how it could be . > possible that the patch would be legal in the US, but the changelog would . > not be. Mike Fedyk replied, "Basically, the politicians can't read the . > patch, but they might be able to understand the summary... Also, in many . > cases the change that fixes the security hole doesn't make exploit ideas . > obvious. While many times the security report includes the expliot . > itself." End of thread. . > Kernel Traffic #138 For 22 Oct 2001 . > An unidentified person suggested that modules could simply lie about their . > licensing and bypass these safeguards altogether, but Alan replied, . > "under the DMCA thats probably a criminal offence with five years in jail. . > I hope that this is enough for a wake-up call ... . > RT> Roger Turk . > CU, Ricsi ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2005 ******************************
