arachne-digest Saturday, January 4 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2006
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:52:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fw: DGI language / Python for DOS ? Thanks Ricsi. I just found out that a friend runs Linux. He said he would teach me everything I need to know and help me get set up. So, that will be happening sometime this month (I hope). I still think it would be a nice addition for Arachne DOS, but that may be harder to do. First steps first. Thanks for my first snippet of code. <g> Bob On Fri, 03 Jan 2003 14:47:54 +0100 (CET) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) writes: > Hi bobdohse! > > Grab linux ... > install apache, mysql or postgre, a scripiting language > of yopur choice (php, perl .....) and ready. > > Where is the problem ?? > > it is as easy as: (with php/mysql ... other > combinations are also not harder to do) it will read > data from the database and print it into a table. > > If you only want to search/insert manually, you > could even use phpmyadmin, and > have online www access to your database. > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:37:32 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Arachne "Inferior" On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 "Glenn Gilbreath Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I do remember reading from someone, just > can't remember whom, that xChaos (Michael Polak) HAD made > a mistake by not incorporating database access into Arachne. - - - - I agree with your point of view. Arachne was created as a browser and MUA (did I get that correct?). Although some folks do some innovative things (like DOS shell, local file server, kiosks, etc.), the innovations don't detract from the original achievement. Arachne is a great idea - and a fun tool for playing with the computer (i.e., innovation) > > By the way, what is so terrible with "shelling" > to run a batch file to call your DB manager, then take the output > from the DB manager, convert it to HTML, then render with > Arachne... > the batch file only needs one line at the end ..."exit" and Arachne > will restart automatically. I know I've seen DBtoHTML converters > on the net...don't know if it was strictly DOS only or not though. > But, most DB manager type programs DO have an "export" function, > so you could just export the database to a text file, then run it > through > text2htm, and use Arachne to view your converted data...just an > idea. > - - - - I'm trying to get away from the user needing to (initially) learn the database interface. I want to set up some hyperlinks on some HTM or AH files, and have those hyperlinks manage the simpler aspects of a DBMS. As the users learn Arachne and HTML, they become capable of creating their own hyperlinks to expand the envelope and manipulate data. That will draw some people into exploring database concepts, which will expand their capability for managing their own data and their own resources. If I can keep the learning curve at a level appropriate for the community then it makes it more widely acceptable. The easier I can get some local folks into the role of local expert, the faster it will become their project. Again, I'm working in semi-remote villages. Sometimes the power is from the car battery. The phone lines are nonexistent, so communication is (initially) not an important issue for me. And - in some places - communication is prohibited or severely limited. In MY perfect world, Arachne's communication package would be an APM to the basic HTML browser. I would also make all the internal keyboard codes an APM, as well as the complete skin. The DBMS would function mostly through hyperlinks. But that's MY dream program and not necessarily the desires of others. I happen to believe that it would make Arachne more acceptable and more universal. To insert my contribution to the TCPA-DRM (etc., etc.) dialog ... it only requires one side of a communication to reveal the entire source. To avoid the computer police of the future, users will ALL have to operate outside the TCPA-DRM domain or the entire connecting circle of users would be compromised. If all data is in the hands of the TCPA-DRM-whatever approved sources, then dissident voices would be eliminated. The alternative is to enable users with a full range of capability - including DBMS interfaces. And we haven't even mentioned such fun things for Arachnoids as analog-digital device management, graphics-audio-video development, integrated programming structures (e.g., Office Suites), code writing and development, etc. - all tweaked to run from within Arachne without the appearance shelling out. So, to me, it's all the same issue. Help and encourage each other to expand the envelope, or say goodbye as - one by one - each of us dies or is drawn away by the need for a particular function that can't be done from within Arachne (which is where I'm at with movie editing - not many DOS options out there for that). But, for the moment, I'd settle for a few sweet hyperlinks that talked with my database. FYI, Wiz ... I know many doctors who would love an Arachne DBMS to help provide better services to their people - if you're interested in playing in that ballpark. I took some year-old PDRs to some College of Medicine students in Kosovo to help them better understand the latest drug terminology. They were in heaven with "such a precious gift". Imagine if they had a useful database (and it could be modified in their language). Peace, brother. <g> Bob - - ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 # 2002 On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Thu, 02 Jan 2003 09:39:50-0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The reason why I am using this program instead of Arachne right now is > > that I am currently travelling with my laptop and the infernal internal > > mouse is running wild and I can't control it. I have the kind which has > > a tiny little control stick that pokes out of the middle of the keyboard. > > At the slightest touch it goes wild and races all over the screen. I > > can't hold it still so as to position it on a spot long enough to click > > on it. I will disable the internal mouse and I will acquire and install > > an external mouse later. Unlike Clarence, I never learned how to use > > Arachne without a mouse. > > > Fairly simple to navigate mouseless. Use the arrow keys to move the > cursor left and right, up and down. Hit "enter" to select. Also the > "tab" key jumps the cursor to the next link. That's enough for most > purposes. > > "Page Up" and "Page Down" do the obvious. Learning how to use Arachne > without a mouse seems a lot simpler to me than finding, learning and > installing another program. Thanks for telling me how amazingly simple and easy it is to navigate Arachne in mouseless mode. I just tried it out in off-line mode. The Arachne graphics interface is really very easy to use without a mouse. I had previously supposed that it would be very complicated and difficult, somewhat like trying to go mouseless on another well known, but here unpopular, GUI known as Window$. Why didn't they design the Window$ GUI to work as easily as the Arachne interface without a mouse? My excuse for not using Arachne this time is that I have to dial long distance from my vacation place to hook up with my regular ISP, shentel.net. I am currenetly connected to "access-4-free" with lsppp for DOS and using a local dialup number. I can do my shentel email through my Unix shell account at "sdf.lonestar.org" > > Customising the "F-" keys for your favorite functions will make > navigation easier as well. It will cut down on the positioning and > clicking needed for everyday tasks. > Sam Ewalt > Croswell, Michigan, USA > -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:33:52 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: TCPA ? On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Michael Polak wrote: > >as long as you bought the speaker after the TCPA law introduction, > >there will > >be no problem, because they contain a TCPA chip ... if not, than ??? > >who knows > > I know very little about that... so it will be illegal to sell pre-TCPA > hardware in USA after introduction of that law? Well, it is just the > time to start building our independent czFree.Net using Wi-Fi, optical > links, etc.... better build it now, while unregulated hardware is still > available... According to the usual and customary observances in US law, the possession and sale of equipment which was legally manufactured and marketed "before" it became "banned" is "grandfathered", meaning it is still legal after the ban. For example, it is legal to possess and to sell and to drive old automobiles that were not originally provided with modern pollution control equipment and safety devices such as seatbelts. Also it is legal to possess and to sell and to use "high capacity" magazines for firearms provided they were manufactured "before" they became "banned". "Grandfathering" of commerce in things that were legally manufactured and marketed "before" the continued manufacture later became "banned" is a common practice in US law. I don't know how this philosophy might be extended to apply to TCPA compliance. For the sake of logic and consistency the "grandfathering" philosophy ought to apply here as it does with other used and old articles of commerce. Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 16:42:32 -0300 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: Arachne "Inferior" (parsing DB is a programming browser feature not kinda of "inferior or superior") - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Gilbreath Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 3:48 AM Subject: Re: Arachne "Inferior" > On Thursday, we read from Bob.. > > > > For users to somehow imply that Arachne is inferior > > because it doesn't interface well with XML docs, or some DB2 > > or FoxPro database is sort of silly, IMNSHO. > > A search of past email reveals ZERO use of the word INFERIOR. But, maybe > I deleted those emails. At any rate, I don't recall anyone suggesting > that Arachne was inferior. Not extended in the directions some might find > useful, but never inferior. My favorite adjective happens to be GREAT. > I'm hoping for greatER. > > > Bob, > I agree, which is why Glennmcc is working on the "User Edition". > I also did not say that someone used the exact phrase of Arachne > being inferior, but, I do remember reading from someone, just > can't remember whom, that xChaos (Michael Polak) HAD made > a mistake by not incorporating database access into Arachne. > That was my point. By the way, what is so terrible with "shelling" > to run a batch file to call your DB manager, then take the output > from the DB manager, convert it to HTML, then render with Arachne... > the batch file only needs one line at the end ..."exit" and Arachne > will restart autmagically. I know I've seen DBtoHTML converters > on the net...don't know if it was strictly DOS only or not though. > But, most DB manager type programs DO have an "export" function, > so you could just export the database to a text file, then run it through > text2htm, and use Arachne to view your converted data...just an idea. > C U L8R! <{;-) ********************************* IMPORTANT MISLEADING INFORMATION I have spent lot of time "converting" data. The fact is (when dynamic content is needed) that even you are "converting db2html" upon a regular basis html viewers.........WILL BE BROWSING OUTDATED INFORMATION. Sometimes if data is not change a lot it could be a solution but think in a transactional database (ex. field frequent updates, sales, memos, etc.) and you'll find these "solution" very unuseful unless you are synchronizing (aka replicating) your local data with the one on the server. I hope this clarifies other user's needs. The kind of transactional databases that motorize de RDBMS industry (transactional, referential integrity, commit and rollback features) as found in leading GPL licence version mySQL (last version** mysqlmax.exe demon**has everything as cited above**) If you don't need all the bell and whistles just use mysqlopt.exe and voil�. ***************** > To everyone in discussion about TCPA, DRM etc., > Folks, I told everyone on this list about this nightmare some 6 or 8 > months ago! Remember? Remember my sarcasm about Microsoft > bastardizing the TCP/IP protocol, after it has dumped millions of > hackable servers onto the market, it will claim to have the "fix", but > in order to implement, all TCP/IP must upgrade to the new Microsoft > TCP/MS protocols! This is what Microsoft is calling "Palladium"... > and the "Fritz" chip...if anyone didn't read about that last summer, > go to www.pbs.org and do a search for Cringely, under Palladium, > and you will find links to some rather disturbing trends already > underfoot! > > C U L8R! <{;-) > Wiz Glenn > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:22:46 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 # 2002 On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC), Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Thanks for telling me how amazingly simple and easy it is to navigate > Arachne in mouseless mode. > I just tried it out in off-line mode. The Arachne graphics interface > is really very easy to use without a mouse. I had previously > supposed that it would be very complicated and difficult, somewhat like > trying to go mouseless on another well known, but here unpopular, GUI > known as Window$. Why didn't they design the Window$ GUI to work as > easily as the Arachne interface without a mouse? Actually Windows itself has keyboard equivalents for many functions but most people aren't aware of them. I don't know about the Windows browsers because I don't use them. And I don't know about more recent Windows versions, but I do know that prior to 95 Windows itself had keyboard equivalents and mouseless navigation. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 10:23:46 +0000 From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New Features (was " What's important for Arachne's future?") Hi Folks, Florian, On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:30:09 +0100, flox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I just tried to get myself a new web counter, at >> www.textcounter.org, and when the code arrived, it was written in >> JavaScript. Arachne couldn't see it (and so it is absolutely no use to >> me because I only ever use Arachne), and I assume that Arachne would not >> be able to communicate fully back to the counter script. > There are two ways...one with and one without javascript. Apparently not. I asked the question of their forum, and got this reply: ============================ User "Admin" writes: Hi Ron, The counter value is only visible to browsers that support JS, but visitors without are counted as well: There is no way to have the Textcounter.org counter value displayed as image. Christopher ========================= I shall let my subscription quietly die. Regards, Ron Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/index.html http://tadpole.aus.as - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:44:10 -0800 From: "Ray Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2003 Hi Thomas, > From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> What about "Arachne for Windows" ? >> BURN! > Java is not for Windows only, so Arachne with Java is possible for Linux or > possibly anything but DOS. Besides, there are doubts as to the compatibility > of Windows Java with Java on other OSes, as Bill Gates tries to make Java work > only on Windows. So what about Arachne for Linux, and perhaps the BSDs too, > with Java? Then you won't have to burn. Actually, I'm amazed how few people even wanted to burn me ... but I stick to my guns: Arachne is a great program and should be available under as many OS's as possible. As far as Java is concerned, it seems to have been established on the list that what we need is Java Script, not Java itself. BTW, you guys who know: It's been explained quite well in the past few days what Java is, but what exactly is Java Script, anyway? Why do we need it? How does it work? Ray Andrews, Vancouver, Canada - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 01:09:25 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 # 2002 On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 18:24:10 +0000 (UTC), Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > > > > Thanks for telling me how amazingly simple and easy it is to navigate > > Arachne in mouseless mode. > > > I just tried it out in off-line mode. The Arachne graphics interface > > is really very easy to use without a mouse. I had previously > > supposed that it would be very complicated and difficult, somewhat like > > trying to go mouseless on another well known, but here unpopular, GUI > > known as Window$. Why didn't they design the Window$ GUI to work as > > easily as the Arachne interface without a mouse? > > Actually Windows itself has keyboard equivalents for many functions > but most people aren't aware of them. I don't know about the Windows > browsers because I don't use them. And I don't know about more > recent Windows versions, but I do know that prior to 95 Windows itself > had keyboard equivalents and mouseless navigation. > I sometimes need to use a Window$ browser to do web sites that are infested with JavaScript. Now that my built-in pointing device on my laptop no longer works, I am going to have one heck of a time at trying to install a standard serial mouse for working under Window$ because Window$ wants you to use the point-and-click GUI to remove old hardware and to find new hardware and to install new hardware. I can't point-and-click if my mouse is running wild and out of control. There is probably a much easier way of doing these things simply by editing some Window$ start-up files while under DOS, and before going into Window$. I don't know which files to edit and I don't know just how they should be edited. I would appreciate any help that someone might be able to offer on how to solve this problem. For working only under DOS, it is so easy to uninstall a defective built-in mouse and to install instead an alternative and functional standard serial mouse. Window$ likes to make the simplest things soooo terribly complicated. Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.44 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 04:05:18 +0200 From: Juha Sahakangas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 # 2002 On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 01:09:25AM +0000, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jan 2003, Sam Ewalt wrote: > I sometimes need to use a Window$ browser to do web sites that are > infested with JavaScript. Now that my built-in pointing device on I think most windows browsers are able to be used with keyboard only javascript may make things harder, but most of the stuff should work... Even with IE, basic functionality is there with no mouse, but Mozilla is miles ahead, the type-ahead find of new versions rocks. You can just start typing text, and the cursor jumps to nearest link that matches, or if so configured even into non-link text, doesn't sound very useful at first, but after you get used to it, it's just amazing. Not only does it beat navigating all links one by one with tab, but most of the time it's easier than using mouse as well. > Window$ because Window$ wants you to use the point-and-click GUI to > remove old hardware and to find new hardware and to install new hardware. > I can't point-and-click if my mouse is running wild and out of control. If the mouse is only "running wild" in the sense that cursor moves, it's possible to change windows with alt-tab, and inside window navigate widgets with tab, enter and space, rather easy to install drivers that way. If the mouse is also automagically pressing it's buttons, then that's gonna make matters difficult... > There is probably a much easier way of doing these things simply by > editing some Window$ start-up files while under DOS, and before going > into Window$. Windows 95+ stores it's settings mostly on registry, don't know whether or not there are DOS applications for modifying that, but it's binary, so nothing as easy as modifying something with a text editor a'la linux or windozes when all was still in .ini files. For the museum versions, I think win3.x mouse settings can be modified from dos based setup program... not sure, though, it's been a while and can't remember everything. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:22:06 -0300 From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: arachne-digest V1 #2003 what exactly is Java Script, anyway? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 8:44 PM Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2003 > Hi Thomas, > > > From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> What about "Arachne for Windows" ? > > >> BURN! > > > Java is not for Windows only, so Arachne with Java is possible for Linux or > > possibly anything but DOS. Besides, there are doubts as to the compatibility > > of Windows Java with Java on other OSes, as Bill Gates tries to make Java work > > only on Windows. So what about Arachne for Linux, and perhaps the BSDs too, > > with Java? Then you won't have to burn. > > Actually, I'm amazed how few people even wanted to burn me ... but I stick > to my guns: Arachne is a great program and should be available under > as many OS's as possible. As far as Java is concerned, it seems to > have been established on the list that what we need is Java Script, not > Java itself. BTW, you guys who know: It's been explained quite well > in the past few days what Java is, but what exactly is Java Script, anyway? > Why do we need it? How does it work? First is first for googleing: "javascript" is Netscape, "jscript" is MS Javascript is a webscripting language. To put it clear : Javascript has similar syntax to Java but it isn't a general programming language, only has webscriptin purposes. No JVM is needed to get the browser operational with JScript or Javascript If you need to run Java code (not Javascript) you'll need a JVM (java virtual machine) to run any piece of Java code ( applet) on the client or server side. Javascript it's different than Java, as it is intended to be used mainly on the CLIENT SIDE of the browsing equation. On the other hand JAVA is a system programming as also a general programming language. The benefits of webscripting are that parsing is embedded in the browser so this language can be used dynamically inovoked within the browser rather to te parsed with indirect methods as it occurs with other non embedded scripting languages (CGI/Perl/Php/Python/ASP/JSP, etc.) M$ launched their own version of Javascript called JScript (with added features to be functional with their propietary COM model) JScript is slightly different than JavaScript (founded in Navigator) so conflicts can arise the same way as VBScript does with IE. Elliot > > Ray Andrews, > Vancouver, Canada > > > > -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 23:56:10 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Runaway Mouse Sam, For your Runaway Mouse problem ... Try Tab or Alt-Tab to go from the Desktop to the Start button. Open the Start button and arrow up to Settings. Arrow over (then up or down as needed) and select Control Panel. Tab to the Mouse and open that panel. Select (Tab to) Motion or Speed, then adjust the movement speed and other options as necessary. If the mouse button is interpreting directions correctly, then it's probably just a matter of response speed. The above directions are from my memory, so they may be off a bit. The important parts are using the Tab and Alt-Tab keys as necessary for movement (Shift-Alt goes in reverse). Use the Enter key to make your button selections and the arrow keys as you find necessary. Do this first thing when you boot up. If you get lost in cyberspace, just shut off the laptop and start again. Windows should recover itself on start up, so you shouldn't have any real problems. If that doesn't work, try loading CTMOUSE from the DOS prompt. If that works, then add CTMOUSE to your autoexec.bat file and reboot. Good luck. Bob ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:43:35 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: arachne-digest V1 # 2002 Hi Samuel! 04 Jan 2003, "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SH> I sometimes need to use a Window$ browser to do web sites that are SH> infested with JavaScript. Hmmm ... I allways thought that one needs a JavaScript capable browser to view these pages :-)))) But honestly ... mozilla for example is available for these platforms: Win32, MacOS 9, MacOS X, Linux, AIX, BeOS, BSD/OS, FreeBSD, HPUX, NetBSD, OpenVMS, OS/2 and Solaris. Why is there a need for a "windows browser" to view webpages which have embedded JS ?? IMHO there is no way to do it by DOS. Can't you simply use the keyboard ?? and tab your way to correct place ?? (go to the start menu by ctrl-esc and from there on with cursor, tab etc.) it works for me if I'm too lazy to attach a mouse. SH> Sam Heywood CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> There is a tiny plant here, murmuring "water, water" <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 04:59:33 -0800 From: Vitaly Luban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: arachne-digest V1 #2003 what exactly is Java Script, anyway? Hi Elliot, Just my 5 cents. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On the other hand JAVA is a system programming as also a general > programming language. > Java is not a system programming language and will never be. With it's kind of execution model and performance... And no need for examples here, please, I can write any given system on Fortran IV, that does not make it a system programming language. Nor Java is general programming language, mostly because of it's idiomatics, garbage collection and castrated pointers. Though it's much better suited for application programming, than to system programming, still, doing any serious system on it, one will eventually face a need to buy SUN multiprocessor server to achieve any acceptable performance. That alone makes Java more a catch, than programming language and there's no surprise why SUN spent countless millions pushing Java into market. > > M$ launched their own version of Javascript called JScript (with added > features to be functional with their propietary COM model) > For clarification. M$ made it not because of added features, but to make IE competition incompatible with websites developed using it, thus pushing NScape, Opera and others out of market simply by encouraging web developers to use it. > > JScript is slightly different than JavaScript (founded in Navigator) so > conflicts can arise the same way as VBScript does with IE. Sure thing, that was the original intent. Mostly agree with the rest. Vit. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 13:44:30 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA Hi Roger! 03 Jan 2003, Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RT> I went to the U. S. Senate web site <www.senate.gov> and did a search RT> for DMCA and came up with HR5522, (House of Representatives bill RT> number 5522) which was introduced in October, 2002 and is now assigned RT> to the courts subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee which is RT> currently holding hearings on the bill. Transcripts of testimony RT> before the subcommittee is available on the House web site RT> <www.house.gov>. Thannks for reading thw whole thing ... I was too lazy to do it (as it doesn't directly affect me :) BUT on the PDF I sent stands: The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) was signed into law by President Clinton on October 28, 1998. The legislation implements two 1996 World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) treaties: the WIPO Copyright Treaty and the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty. The DMCA also addresses a number of other significant copyright-related issues. This means to me that the law was signed in 1998, and since than is active law. I'm pretty sure that the DMCA was used in the court before Oct. 2002. RT> Rather than reading what someone else has said about the bill, I read RT> the bill itself. This is how it should be ... but don't forget hat the law is often misused and abused. http://www.eff.org/Legal/Cases/Felten_v_RIAA/20010606_eff_complaint.html And read the URLs I have posted ... there is enough material. RT> It appears to do the opposite of what you state. It states that it is RT> NOT a copyright violation to make archival copies of digital media. I wrote that it forbids circumventing copyright protection and encryption. (and these terms are NOT defined in tha law imho so rot13 can be an encryption and if you decrypt it than you can go to jail !) Lbh onq, onq unpxre unir oebxra zl terng rapelcgvba - guvf vf vyyrtny ! And how do you make archival copies of copyright protected digital media without circumventing the copyright protection ?? RT> The bill is very short and appears to be very favorable towards users RT> of computers and digital media with regard to copyright protection. it is not. It is on purpose that short, and does not countain definitions, so that lawyers can basically use it against EVERYTHING. Walmart sued one person because he "handeled against the DMCA" by puting a walmart pricelist on the web. (and the list is "copyright" protected) Lawyers use the DMCA to bully people. Again ... I am no US citizen ... all I want is that americans wake up, and read the law and its implications by themselves, and act accordingly. DMCA is nothing compared to what some Senators have in mind with the TPCA ! RT> As far as bribery of journalists goes, I think that there are far too RT> many journalists in the U. S. looking for a Pulitzer prize winning RT> story for anybody to bribe all of them. But why is then this silence ?? PS: I also have not heared that US journalism spoke about absolutely criminal situation in guantanamo, which is against UN human rights convention. Type in this in babelfish http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/inhalt/co/13848/1.html The UN huamn rights are part of all european constitutions ... know I understand why Bush does not want Americans to be able to be sued before the UN Human rights court. And how is it possible that alquaida (spelling ?) fights the US with THEIR OWN WEAPONS ?? Oh ... yeah ... I forgot the US gave the weapons to them FOR FREE ... strange world we live in! RT> Roger Turk RT> Tucson, Arizona CU, Ricsi - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> The problem with the genepool is there's no lifeguard <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 08:10:45 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Runaway Mouse Sam, In W98, CTRL-ESC brings up the Start menu. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Bob Dohse wrote: . > Sam, . > For your Runaway Mouse problem ... . > Try Tab or Alt-Tab to go from the Desktop to the Start button. Open the . > Start button and arrow up to Settings. Arrow over (then up or down as . > needed) and select Control Panel. Tab to the Mouse and open that panel. . > Select (Tab to) Motion or Speed, then adjust the movement speed and other . > options as necessary. . > If the mouse button is interpreting directions correctly, then it's . > probably just a matter of response speed. . > The above directions are from my memory, so they may be off a bit. The . > important parts are using the Tab and Alt-Tab keys as necessary for . > movement (Shift-Alt goes in reverse). Use the Enter key to make your . > button selections and the arrow keys as you find necessary. . > Do this first thing when you boot up. If you get lost in cyberspace, just . > shut off the laptop and start again. Windows should recover itself on . > start up, so you shouldn't have any real problems. . > If that doesn't work, try loading CTMOUSE from the DOS prompt. If that . > works, then add CTMOUSE to your autoexec.bat file and reboot. . > Good luck. . > Bob ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2006 ******************************
