arachne-digest Saturday, January 11 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2013
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 21:17:45 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA
Hi List,
a design can be copyrighted on its form, colors, etcetera.
Furthermore: it is not in the interest of Lexmark that the cartridges
will be refilled. You have to know how to refill and hack the
anti-refill measures Lexmark did build in. Telling about this hacking is
illegal... however simple refilling is.
I refill my Xerox printer cartridges too. IMHO this is not illegal
but telling you 'how to do it' might be illegal.
Maybe I tell you some day where to make a little hole in the cartridge
and what kind of ordinary ink is put into that hole by a seringe.
I will not tell you... for I do not like to be arrested if I visit
the United States.
CU, Bastiaan
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:08:23 -0000, John Sparks wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Arachne List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 4:55 AM
> Subject: Re: Comments on the DMCA and te TPCA
>> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:25:52 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard
> Menedetter) wrote:
> <snip>
>> > Lexmark sued an ink cartrdige refiller for violating the DMCA.
>> > The ink cartrdige is "copyrighted", and the making of lexmark cartridges
> is
>> > illegal accoring to 1201 of the DMCA.
>> > 1201 is the evasion of copyright protection schemes.
> <snip>
>> Unless the container and its components have some
>> unique features and characteristics and component materials which make it
>> quite unlike anything else, then how can it be copyrighted or patented?
> <snip>
> Agreed, but some Lexmark's incorporate the heads in the cartridge and might
> be patented. Even so it would seem strange that what is essentially a refill
> service would be illegal.
> John
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:58:39 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
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Yes, of course I was wondering and I am still wondering.
Last year people could not get out because Michael was not there.
But the problems with my provider are over (hope it stays this way).
I complained (as many others?) and the SMTP and POP services are
restored to the former login procedure.
So there is no reason anymore to unsubscribe...
CU, Bastiaan
BTW: I'll attach the JS script page for logging in the internetmail
service. I was not able to insert username and password with Arachne.
Dutch English
Wachtwoord = password
Gebruikersnaam = user name
Vergeten = forgotten
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:19:52 -0500 (EST), Thomas Mueller wrote:
> I wonder why Michael can't manually unsubscribe list members who want to
leave.
> While the Arachne list is helpful for information on Arachne and some other
> subjects, I don't think we want to hold people hostage who want out.
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<html>
<head>
<link rel=3D"stylesheet" href=3D"/css/netmail.css" style=3D"text\css">
<title>
Netmail - Inloggen
</title>
<script language=3D"javascript">
function giveFocus() {
with (document.forms[0]) {
if (Username.value.length =3D=3D 0)
Username.focus();
else
Password.focus();
}
}
</script>
</head>
<body marginwidth=3D"0" marginheight=3D"0" onload=3D"giveFocus()">
<center>
<table width=3D"420" height=3D"220" border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0"
cellspacing=3D"6">
<tr>
<td class=3D"NM-BLUE-BACK" height=3D"20">
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"2">
<tr>
<td>
<img src=3D"/pix/titel_inloggen.gif" width=3D"220"
height=3D"16"></td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr height=3D"34">
<td align=3D"center">
<img src=3D"/pix/leeg.gif" height=3D"34">
</td>
</tr>
<tr valign=3D"top">
<td>
<table width=3D"408" height=3D"116" border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"2"
cellspacing=3D"0">
<tr>
<td class=3D"NM-LIGHT-BACK">
<form name=3D"xyz" action=3D"/_mem_bin/verifpwd.asp" method=3D"post"
style=3D"margin: 0px;">
<input name=3D"URL" type=3D"hidden" value=3D"/email/">
<table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"
align=3D"center">
<tr>
<td>
Gebruikersnaam:
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<input type=3D"text" size=3D"24" maxlength=3D"100"
name=3D"Username" class=3D"textfield" value=3D"">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height=3D"4">
<img src=3D"/pix/leeg.gif" height=3D"4"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
Wachtwoord:
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<input type=3D"password" size=3D"24" maxlength=3D"40"
name=3D"Password" class=3D"textfield">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height=3D"6">
<img src=3D"/pix/leeg.gif" height=3D"6"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align=3D"center">
<input type=3D"image" name=3D"login"
value=3D"inloggen" src=3D"/pix/netmail_inloggen.gif" border=3D"0"
idth=3D"80" height=3D"14">
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</form>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr height=3D"20">
<td class=3D"NM-DARK-BACK">
<table width=3D"408" border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"2" cellspacing=3D"0">
<tr>
<td>
<a
href=3D"http://service1.hetnet.nl/selfcare/default.asp?strDisplay=3Dwo";
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"N
- -POPUP-SLUITEN">wachtwoord vergeten?</a>
</td>
<td class=3D"NM-DARK-BACK" align=3D"right">
<a href=3D"javascript:window.close()"
class=3D"NM-POPUP-SLUITEN">annuleren<img src=3D"/pix/dot_white.gif" wid
h=3D"5" height=3D"5" hspace=3D"6" vspace=3D"1" border=3D"0"></a>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</body>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:18:59 -0500 (EST)
From: ann Kiszt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
Sure there is a reason to unsubscribe. For instance,
having a list you have no use for continually landing
in your inbox would be one reason. I cant even seem
to make working filters to trash it on sight!
I would VERY much like to know if and when the
unsubscribe is working again.
I have wanted OFF this list for months!
--- "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, of course I
was wondering and I am still
> wondering.
> Last year people could not get out because Michael
> was not there.
>
> But the problems with my provider are over (hope it
> stays this way).
> I complained (as many others?) and the SMTP and POP
> services are
> restored to the former login procedure.
>
> So there is no reason anymore to unsubscribe...
>
> CU, Bastiaan
>
> BTW: I'll attach the JS script page for logging in
> the internetmail
> service. I was not able to insert username and
> password with Arachne.
>
> Dutch English
> Wachtwoord = password
> Gebruikersnaam = user name
> Vergeten = forgotten
>
> On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:19:52 -0500 (EST), Thomas
> Mueller wrote:
>
> > I wonder why Michael can't manually unsubscribe
> list members who want to
> leave.
> > While the Arachne list is helpful for information
> on Arachne and some other
> > subjects, I don't think we want to hold people
> hostage who want out.
>
>
<HR>
<html>
<head>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="/css/netmail.css"
style="text\css">
<title>
Netmail - Inloggen
</title>
<script language="javascript">
function giveFocus() {
with (document.forms[0]) {
if (Username.value.length == 0)
Username.focus();
else
Password.focus();
}
}
</script>
</head>
<body marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"
onload="giveFocus()">
<center>
<table width="420" height="220" border="0"
cellpadding="0" cellspacing="6">
<tr>
<td class="NM-BLUE-BACK" height="20">
<table border="0" cellspacing="0"
cellpadding="2">
<tr>
<td>
<img src="/pix/titel_inloggen.gif"
width="220" height="16"></td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr height="34">
<td align="center">
<img src="/pix/leeg.gif" height="34">
</td>
</tr>
<tr valign="top">
<td>
<table width="408" height="116" border="0"
cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td class="NM-LIGHT-BACK">
<form name="xyz"
action="/_mem_bin/verifpwd.asp" method="post"
style="margin: 0px;">
<input name="URL" type="hidden"
value="/email/">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0"
cellspacing="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td>
Gebruikersnaam:
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<input type="text" size="24"
maxlength="100" name="Username" class="textfield"
value="">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="4">
<img src="/pix/leeg.gif"
height="4"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
Wachtwoord:
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<input type="password"
size="24" maxlength="40" name="Password"
class="textfield">
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td height="6">
<img src="/pix/leeg.gif"
height="6"></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td align="center">
<input type="image"
name="login" value="inloggen"
src="/pix/netmail_inloggen.gif" border="0"
idth="80" height="14">
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</form>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
<tr height="20">
<td class="NM-DARK-BACK">
<table width="408" border="0"
cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0">
<tr>
<td>
<a
href="http://service1.hetnet.nl/selfcare/default.asp?strDisplay=wo";
target="_blank" class="N
- -POPUP-SLUITEN">wachtwoord vergeten?</a>
</td>
<td class="NM-DARK-BACK"
align="right">
<a href="javascript:window.close()"
class="NM-POPUP-SLUITEN">annuleren<img
src="/pix/dot_white.gif" wid
h="5" height="5" hspace="6" vspace="1" border="0"></a>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</td>
</tr>
</table>
</center>
</body>
</html>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:36:43 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:18:59 -0500 (EST), ann Kiszt wrote:
> Sure there is a reason to unsubscribe. For instance,
> having a list you have no use for continually landing
> in your inbox would be one reason. I cant even seem
> to make working filters to trash it on sight!
> I would VERY much like to know if and when the
> unsubscribe is working again.
> I have wanted OFF this list for months!
Just curious......
Why are you still reading and then replying to
messages from a list that you want off of ????
I have a suggestion.
All messages from this list have the same 'reply-to' address.
When you see "Reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" .... press delete.
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:18:51 -0500 (EST)
From: ann Kiszt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
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- --- Glenn McCorkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:18:59 -0500
(EST), ann Kiszt
> wrote:
> Just curious......
>
> Why are you still reading and then replying to
> messages from a list that you want off of ????
>
> I have a suggestion.
>
> All messages from this list have the same 'reply-to'
> address.
>
> When you see "Reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ....
> press delete.
>
> --
I DO exactly that. I'm fed up with having to do that at all. If you check the subject
line on this one it's actually relevant.
I have been trapped on this FUCKING LIST FOR SIX FUCKING MONTHS AND I WANT THE FUCK
OFF IT! When you can't stop mail from coming from somewhere, not EVEN WITH A FILTER,
doesn't that count as fucking SPAM????
So don't sit there saying I shouldn't be answering this letter because I should delete
on sight. I shouldn't HAVE to delete on sight in the FIRST PLACE!
What do I have to do to get off this list? Employ the troll tactics I've seen
online????
Or perhaps you think I should give up this email account, change all my other list
subs and notify all my contacts because of this one list?
I did not ask YOU to unsub me, clearly you don't give a flying fuck about it, so
either tell me if you have any useful help for me or shut your fucking yap.
Unfuckingbelievable.
YES, I have configured filters for every version of the reply to I've ever seen, to no
avail.
Nevertheless, I shouldn't have to. Additionally, my yahoo account has a limit on
space, having your mail fill it uselessly when I can't get my mail downloaded fast
enough is NOT appreciated.
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<P>--- Glenn McCorkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 2003
20:18:59 -0500 (EST), ann Kiszt <BR>> wrote: <BR>> Just curious...... <BR>>
<BR>> Why are you still reading and then replying to <BR>> messages from a list
that you want off of ???? <BR>> <BR>> I have a suggestion. <BR>> <BR>> All
messages from this list have the same 'reply-to' <BR>> address. <BR>> <BR>>
When you see "Reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" .... <BR>> press delete. <BR>>
<BR>> -- <BR><BR><BR>I DO exactly that. I'm fed up with having to do that at all.
If you check the subject line on this one it's actually relevant. </P>
<P><EM><U><STRONG>I have been trapped on this FUCKING LIST FOR SIX FUCKING MONTHS AND
I WANT THE FUCK OFF IT! When you can't stop mail from coming from somewhere, not EVEN
WITH A FILTER, doesn't that count as fucking SPAM????
</STRONG></U></EM><EM><U><STRONG><BR></STRONG></U></EM>So don't sit there saying I
shouldn't be answering this letter because I should delete on sight. I shouldn't HAVE
to delete on sight in the FIRST PLACE! <BR>What do I have to do to get off this list?
Employ the troll tactics I've seen online???? <BR>Or perhaps you think I should give
up this email account, change all my other list subs and notify all my contacts
because of this one list? <BR>I did not ask YOU to unsub me, clearly you don't give a
flying fuck about it, so either tell me if you have any useful help for me or shut
your fucking yap. <BR>Unfuckingbelievable. <BR>YES, I have configured filters for
every version of the reply to I've ever seen, to no avail.</P>
<P>Nevertheless, I shouldn't have to. Additionally, my yahoo account has a limit
on space, having your mail fill it uselessly when I can't get my mail downloaded fast
enough is NOT appreciated.</P><p><br><hr size=1>Post your free ad now! <a
href="http://ca.personals.yahoo.com/";><b>Yahoo! Canada Personals</b></a><br>
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:25:18 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human
rights
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:28:31 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:
> What is PBS?
In the USA it is the Public Broadcasting System--noncommercial
television supported by viewer donations and charitable foundations.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:08:12 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:18:51 -0500 (EST), ann Kiszt wrote:
<snipped all>
Please accept my most humble appology for upsetting you with my
suggestion to delete everything with "reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:22:04 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human
rights
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:25:18 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:28:31 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:
>> What is PBS?
> In the USA it is the Public Broadcasting System--noncommercial
> television supported by viewer donations and charitable foundations.
To be more exact....
88% funding from those sources.
12% funding from our tax dollars. :(((
"The corp. for public broadcasting" is a branch
of the US federal government.
>From http://www.cpb.org/about/
The Corporation for Public
Broadcasting is a private,
non-profit corporation created by
Congress in 1967 and:
receives an annual
appropriation from Congress,
representing 12% of public
broadcasting's revenues
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:34:08 -0500 (EST)
From: ann Kiszt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
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accepted and I'm sorry for going off on you. this has been slowly increasing my
anger towards this list for all these long months and my temper is far stronger than
most people online ever see.
Please, when anyone knows anything about when this unsub problem is fixed, please tell
me!
Glenn McCorkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:18:51 -0500
(EST), ann Kiszt wrote:
Please accept my most humble appology for upsetting you with my
suggestion to delete everything with "reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/
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<P> accepted and I'm sorry for going off on you. this has been slowly increasing
my anger towards this list for all these long months and my temper is far stronger
than most people online ever see.
<P>Please, when anyone knows anything about when this unsub problem is fixed, please
tell me!
<P> <B><I>Glenn McCorkle &lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT:
5px">On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:18:51 -0500 (EST), ann Kiszt wrote:<BR><BR><SNIPPED
all><BR><BR>Please accept my most humble appology for upsetting you with
my<BR>suggestion to delete everything with "reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]"<BR><BR><BR>--
<BR>Glenn<BR>http://arachne.cz/<BR>http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/<BR>http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/download.htm<BR>http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><p><br><hr
size=1>Post your free ad now! <a href="http://ca.personals.yahoo.com/";><b>Yahoo!
Canada Personals</b></a><br>
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:45:58 +0000
From: "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HTML Programming
On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 01:20:55 +00, you wrote:
>> "HTML Editor for Arachne"
>> Copyright 1999 Vitex Software - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Version 0.9 Beta ......Unfinished Beta version :-(
> Can this HTML Editor downloaded somewhere... this an email address.
> Regards, Bastiaan
Hi Bastiaan,
If you missed it first time round, the HTML Editors are available
as Arachne APM's here
http://browser.arachne.cz/dos
The "HTML Editor for Arachne" you were looking for is 3/4 of the way
down the page in the unfinished Beta section.
The link from memory might be:
http://browser.arachne.cz/apm/htmt0922.apm
>> It's a shame this Editor is still a Beta, it look's virtually
>> finished, reminds me of Edit. Provided it's stable and hasen't
>> any bugs it looks very useful.
Regards Laurie
- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:11:11 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:29:26 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:
> Hi All
> CNN and CBS can be viewed by satellite... oh boy, what a trash is that.
> Not a single critical argument... just 'patriotism' and political
> correctness :-(( I stopped viewing these broadcasts but only once a week
> I view. Just to see how bad the American people is informed... and how a
> new 'anti communist McCarty-ism' is creeping in. Communism is gone, now
> the 'anti-moslim-ism = anti-terrorism' is creeping in, smashing legal
> and human rights.
Here in the US CNN and CBS are viewed by almost everyone as having a
very liberal, pro-Democratic Party, bias. Fox News presents the
conservative, pro-Republican Party side. I don't know if you European
folks can pick up Fox News by satelite. I regard the views aired on
all of these news networks as being very critical.
Sam Heywood
- --
This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser:
http://browser.arachne.cz/
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:41:14 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human
rights
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 20:28:31 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 17:00:59 -0400, L.D. Best wrote:
<snip>
>> That said, let's get back to the subject at hand -- the loss of civil
>> and human rights in the name of National Security. It's a bit scarey
>> ....
> Very scarey and creeping into the legislation of other western
> democracies, slowly... but...
Benjamin Franklin had expressed a most thoughtful opinion on this
subject more than two hundred years ago. He said "They that give up
essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither
liberty nor safety."
See
http://www.constitutionproject.org/ls/mission.htm
Liberty and Security Initiative -- Mission Statement
> In most civilysed countries a gun owner is classified: a criminal
There are no civilized countries where the citizens are not allowed
to own guns. Such citizens are called slaves and their masters are
called dictators. There is no society of free men and women who do
not have the right to own guns. People who would without reasonable
and just cause deny to others this right while retaining it only unto
themselves have criminal motives and intentions.
Sam Heywood
- --
This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser:
http://browser.arachne.cz/
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:41:23 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Keeping track of the news [was Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human
rights
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:22:04 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>>> What is PBS?
>> In the USA it is the Public Broadcasting System--noncommercial
>> television supported by viewer donations and charitable foundations.
> To be more exact....
> 88% funding from those sources.
> 12% funding from our tax dollars. :(((
Yes, that's right. But that 12% is a very tiny expenditure in the
vast scheme of the Federal budget. And only a fraction of what is
spent on public broadcasting in Canada and Great Britian.
The percentage of funding from private sources has grown tremendously
over the years. PBS wouldn't exist viewer support donations.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 03:25:34 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stll no unsubscribe[Fwd: Majordomo results]
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 21:18:51 -0500 (EST), ann Kiszt wrote:
>> When you see "Reply-to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ....
>> press delete.
>> --
> I DO exactly that. I'm fed up with having to do that at all. If you check the
> subject line on this one it's actually relevant.
I've been a subscriber to this list since 1996 and I think it's
unconscionable that people haven't been able to unsubscribe for
five months or more. Unsubscribing seems such a trivial function
that it boggles the mind that it goes unfixed.
It sucks and I can only extend my condolences to those who are
trapped here against their will.
Recently I came back from a few days vacation and was confronted
with several hundred messages. It was a hassle to have to look
through and delete that many messages.
Perhaps those who wish to unsubscribe read and comment once
in a while in the vain hope that somehow, someone will be able to
find the key to the exit door.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 15:48:05 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Excuse me?? Re: CONGRATULATIONS!
On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 19:35:33 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote:
> Hi Sam!
> 09 Jan 2003, "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> don't you mix it up with south korea ?
> SE> Isn't it North Korea that just started up their nuclear weapon
> SE> program--or at least is threatening to do so and they did demand
> SE> that the UN inspectors leave.
> Yes ...
> The communist one :) I tend to mix up North and south korea :)
Communist North Korea is a brutally repressive dictactorship and
desperately poor, unable to feed itself or keep the lights on.
South Korea is a western oriented democracy with a robust economy.
All of Korea suffered tremendously under Japanese military occupation
and during the long conflict that followed.
Due to its extreme poverty North Korea has softened somewhat in the
last ten years. The rulers of North Korea are desperate to remain
in power.
>From what I've read it seems that most South Koreans want a peaceful
Korean solution to their problems.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 04:02:43 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UT (extreme:): the US and the human rights
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 23:11:11 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> Here in the US CNN and CBS are viewed by almost everyone as having a
> very liberal, pro-Democratic Party, bias. Fox News presents the
> conservative, pro-Republican Party side. I don't know if you European
> folks can pick up Fox News by satelite. I regard the views aired on
> all of these news networks as being very critical.
I don't think that's accurate at all. CNN and CBS are largely supportive
of the American agenda and viewpoint even if they are not partisan
cheerleaders for the Republican party. It's rare to see any fundamental
criticism of the American system on American telvision.
Not everyone shares that American viewpoint, which soon becomes obvious
when hearing the news reported from non American sources. Even news
reported from close American allies like Canada and Great Britian has
a different flavor and viewpoint.
Like most large, powerful entities the United States has a very hard
time listening to criticism and opposing viewpoints.
Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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