arachne-digest Sunday, January 26 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2035
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:27:41 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: > **** America did do a lot good things to Europe... we are friends... but > friends have the obligation to critisize each other. > We are in the same pub, we both drink bear...Americans drink Budweiser > Europeans drink Heineken Huh???? I drank a Budweiser when I was 16, and never again. Sure, Heineken is alright, but give me a good Weizen... actually I'd like a nice cold N�rnberger Trichter. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 03:39:21 -0400 From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Last chance to unsubscribe I repeat: <quote> I have been given permission to collect the email address of all those who want off this list and manually delete their names from a copy of the subscriber list. Michael will then attempt to overwrite - he says it may not be as easy as it sounds - the existing list with the new version. </quote> Surprisingly few have accepted the unsubscribe offer. This is the last call. If you want off the list, send a request to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the address you wish unsubscribed before Sunday midnight cz time. Don't send your request to the list. BTW, thanks for the warm comments. I now fully understand why Michael is so hard to reach sometimes. - - Clarence Verge - - Using Arachne V1.71 because I hate Windows crap a lot more... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:59:24 +0000 From: "J J Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? Sam H commented: >I don't know why the dark beers tend to be >so much more expensive than the amber ones. Apart from the factor of charging what the market will stand, Guiness spent a small fortune on developing their Widget... but you'll only find one in a can. Did Ruddles ever make its way to the US? Cheers! Jake ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 02:53:45 +0000 From: "Laurie L Proud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Headers: "From Ronald Bleckendorf" On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 18:59:54 -0500, you wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that virtually all of the headers indicate that they > are from "Ronald Bleckendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, even when the message > is signed by Glenn, Bastiaan, and others? > Roger Turk > Tucson, Arizona Hi Roger, Better later than never, had the net machine disconected for over a week now as I needed the dinning table back for entertaining so very late catching up on mail. Yes I did have this problem. I thought Arachne had a problem, never seen anything like it before. I deleated as fast as posible after reading several mixed up messages. Regards Laurie - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:20:37 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, J J Young wrote: > Sam H commented: > > >I don't know why the dark beers tend to be > >so much more expensive than the amber ones. > > Apart from the factor of charging what the market will > stand, Guiness spent a small fortune on developing their > Widget... but you'll only find one in a can. Of course. Widgets are way too big to poke into a Guiness bottle. It might be possible to stick a Widget into one of those large mouth Rolling Rock bottles. That is an experiment I will have to try. > Did Ruddles ever make its way to the US? > Cheers! > Jake I have never seen or heard of Ruddles here. Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.33 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:23:25 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, J J Young wrote: > Sam H commented: > > >I don't know why the dark beers tend to be > >so much more expensive than the amber ones. > > Apart from the factor of charging what the market will > stand, Guiness spent a small fortune on developing their > Widget... but you'll only find one in a can. Of course. Widgets are way too big to poke into a Guiness bottle. It might be possible to stick a Widget into one of those large mouth Rolling Rock bottles. That is an experiment I will have to try. > Did Ruddles ever make its way to the US? > Cheers! > Jake I have never seen or heard of Ruddles here. Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.33 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:36:14 +0000 (UTC) From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Last chance to unsubscribe On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Clarence Verge wrote: > I repeat: > > <quote> > I have been given permission to collect the email address of all those > who want off this list and manually delete their names from a copy of > the subscriber list. <snip> Hi Clarence: After you have taken care of the problem at hand, I would like to suggest that you periodically post about once a week, or as needed, some information about Majordomo's unsubscribe problem and some intructions for the benefit of new subscribers on how to unsubscribe. Would you please do that? Sam Heywood - -- Message sent by Unix Pine, Version 4.33 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:42:11 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: OT: M$ SQL attack, Film recommandation Hi All! Really sick ... Today large parts of the Internet were inaccessible. Guess what caused it ?? Buffer overflow in M$ SQL Server which was used for a dDoS attack :( # cat /var/log/messages |grep DPT=1433 |wc -l 60 # cat /var/log/messages |grep DPT=1434 |wc -l 267 Over 300 probes reached even my tiny linux server at home :( (and were naturally silently discarded by my firewall) - --------------- Have watched "Bowling for Columbine" yesterday. It was a tremendously good documentary (which has been awarded many prizes). A real MUST watch for every american IMHO. Really, really good. http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/ but I don't know if it is very arachne friendly. most interesting parts: http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/fear/ http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/involved/operationoily.php http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/library/country/ and some humour: http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.com/media/clips/ the "Southpark" series about the history of america is interesting :) attention ... you will need apple quicktime and a fast internet connection. (and OS !=DOS) CU, Ricsi PS: C14 ... I know that there is a relatively big error swing. But it is small enough to distinguish between > 1 million years (claimed by scientists) and < 10.000 years claimed by the bible. (creation of the earth) And there are other proofs, like distribution of some uran and oxygen isotopes. - -- |~)o _ _o Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> {ICQ: 7659421} (PGP) |~\|(__\| -=> For sale: Write-only memory chips <=- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 21:14:23 +0300 From: "Mithgol the Webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: A simple means to unsibscribe from the list Recently I've seen several evidences that Majordomo doesn't react on unsubscribers' mail. So I'll put Arachne mailing list into my spammers-blacklist, and my webmail will be seen as a non-existant one. Good-bye to all of you, I'm moving to Mozilla. Best regards, M M MM MM M M M I T H G O L M M http://mithgol.pp.ru/ T H E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W W W W W E B M A S T E R W W W W W ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:13:39 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? On Fri, 24 Jan 2003 20:27:41 -0500 (EST), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I drank a Budweiser when I was 16, and never again. Sure, > Heineken is alright, but give me a good Weizen... actually > I'd like a nice cold N�rnberger Trichter. I went to college with a bunch of German Lutherans from St. Louis and we might have consumed a Budweiser or two. <grin> Actually we would drink with great gusto anything that had alcohol in it. Cheap beer pouring from spigots would have been the ideal. Later I drank most anything in green bottles especially if it had a name I couldn't pronounce. Today I drink ice water and sometimes Diet Pepsi. And haven't had a headache or felt the room spin in fifteen years. But to each their own. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:19:37 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Last chance to unsubscribe Clarence, It's likely that most of the people who want off the list aren't paying much attention to the list. I doubt that they trouble themselves to read through the messages. I think canceling the list altogether and then starting fresh with people resubscribing would work better. Plus it would purge dead addresses as well. Sam On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 03:39:21 -0400, Clarence Verge wrote: > I repeat: > <quote> > I have been given permission to collect the email address of all those > who want off this list and manually delete their names from a copy of > the subscriber list. > Michael will then attempt to overwrite - he says it may not be as easy > as it sounds - the existing list with the new version. > </quote> > Surprisingly few have accepted the unsubscribe offer. > This is the last call. If you want off the list, send a request to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > from the address you wish unsubscribed before Sunday midnight cz time. > Don't send your request to the list. > BTW, thanks for the warm comments. > I now fully understand why Michael is so hard to reach sometimes. > - Clarence Verge > - Using Arachne V1.71 because I hate Windows crap a lot more... Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:01:02 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? Sam Ewalt wrote: . > Today I drink ice water and sometimes Diet Pepsi. And haven't . > had a headache or felt the room spin in fifteen years. But when you get up in the morning, isn't it disappointing to know that's the best you'll feel all day? <G> One liners: As a rule I don't drink; it's a habit. I drink to relax. The other night I got so relaxed I couldn't stand. I've never reached my limit. I've always passed out first. I don't drink and drive. I might hit a bump and spill it. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:47:24 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Life looks good for Linux (fwd) On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 17:36:16 +0000 (UTC), Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Site: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/technology/2680955.stm > The open source operating system is quietly going from strength to > strength, with many firms and governments adopting Linux. Here's a much better link for BBC news reports. Text only and loads in a snap. http://news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm My thanks to whoever mentioned this link earlier on the list. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:49:07 +0000 From: "Ron Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: M$ SQL attack, Film recommandation Hi Folks, On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:42:11 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > PS: C14 ... I know that there is a relatively big error swing. > But it is small enough to distinguish between > 1 million years (claimed by > scientists) and < 10.000 years claimed by the bible. (creation of the earth) > And there are other proofs, like distribution of some uran and oxygen isotopes. Exactly ! However, I know some will choose "faith" over science, so this is one debate that will change nobody's mind. Enjoy ! Regards, Ron Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/index.html http://tadpole.aus.as - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser - http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:31:35 -0500 (EST) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lost...? On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Actually > we would drink with great gusto anything that had alcohol in it. > Cheap beer pouring from spigots would have been the ideal. For most 16 yr olds. > Today I drink ice water and sometimes Diet Pepsi. And haven't > had a headache or felt the room spin in fifteen years. I make a beer based spaghetti sauce... about 6 times a year. I had two glasses of Cinammon Schnapps at New Years. That's about it for me. > But to each their own. Or more correctly, each to his own. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:11:15 +00 From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How to Shell Out to DOS in HTML - instructions Hi Bob, Your instructions are OK ;-) and I post them to the list because they might be of some use to others. Bastiaan On Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:59:13 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Bastiaan, > My computer with DOS and Arachne is disassembled at the moment, so this > is from memory. Arachne doesn't work with the computer I'm using now. > Look in MIME.CFG for these lines ... > ;------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > ;Local files and DGI: > ;------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- > ;Try to uncomment following, and you will have MSIE 9.0 style desktop ;-) > ;(note: extension .com must precede .c, etc.) > ;file/.exe |@$1 > ;file/.com |@$1 > ;file/.bat |@$1 > ; > Remove the comment-code ( ; ) in front of the word FILE. That makes > Arachne recognize those three file extensions (exe, com, and bat) and > execute the instructions that follow ( |@$1 - see the end of MIME.CFG to > understand these codes). Arachne will now run programs with those > extensions without having to use DGIs or OOKs. This was easy ;-) > Now (this is the part from my memory) look in some of Michael's Arachne > web pages (probably the .AH files are best) and find some code where he > runs a program. This was not easy so I skipped this and applied the next advice: > I think it should look something like this ... <A > HREF="file://FILENAME.EXT"> > I did it on my other computer and replaced the Arachne editor with > EDIT.EXE - I just changed one of the Arachne web pages and saved it > (keeping the same name - don't use SAVE AS). > I think the code I used was <A HREF="file://dos/edit.com">. > That was all I did. Now, when I edit a page with Arachne, the DOS > EDIT.COM program runs. > I also changed the menu in HOME.HTM so that I could run programs from > that menu. For example, I replaced one of Michael's original lines in > HOME.HTM with <A HREF="file://games/chess.exe"> and that now runs a chess > program with a click of the mouse. ********************* I already did make some changes to the "Arachne Desktop" (the HTML-code is in "home.htm"). Your Computer bug is still not solved with this computer so I changed "Your Computer" ikon to "A:\ floppy" ikon and added a "D:\ HD 2" ikon to home.htm <TD ALIGN=CENTER> <A HREF="file:D:\*.*"> <IMG SRC="d-dir.bmp" BORDER=0></D><BR> D:\ HD 2 (It seems I am the only one, on just one computer {of three} where the new wwwman does not fix the problem... I do not realy care.) Nice, but I could not run an external program this way (shelling out). Now I followed your instructions to try to make Norton commander running from inside Arachne... bingo! The following was added to home.htm <TD ALIGN=CENTER> <A HREF="file://C:\norton\nc.exe"> <IMG SRC="system\ikons\norton.ikn"></A> Norton ***** Norton was running at the first try... and very nice: closing Norton sends you imediately back to arachne, to the desktop of course. > You can also pass variables to the DOS programs, but that's a little > harder. The instructions at the end of MIME.CFG are a little confusing, > but they explain how to do this. > Try this and see if it works. Keep notes on the changes you make. If it > doesn't work right, just change everything back to the original. > Let me know how it works out. > Bob Maybe i give a little explanation why I wanted to shell out. With a friend we are working on a little project. I made a homebrew spectrum analyser and want a screen printout on paper or an image file... and i proposed to use a lot of digital chips to realise this thing. My friend came forward with the following idea... why not use the soundcard? The soundcard is at the moment not running in DOS but Win95. We make a .wav recording of the signal comming out of the spectrum analyser in Win95. Then BASIC is started and the .wav recording is converted to a .bmp image. Next this image is stored and displayed, displayed with picture view and printed. I would like to do all this in Arachne. To make the recording would perhaps involve another soundcard. But if arachne could be shelled out to dos and BASIC -now this is possible- the resulting .bmp could be displayed by Arachne. And printed... thanks to modifications in printing for Arachne. A variety of electronic measuring instruments could be coupled to arachne eg by using the game/printer/RS232 ports. DOS is not dead, neither is BASIC ;-)) Thanks for your help Bob, Thanks for Arachne Michael, Bastiaan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:33:22 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: M$ SQL attack, Film recommandation On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:49:07 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote: > Hi Folks, > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:42:11 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) > wrote: >> PS: C14 ... I know that there is a relatively big error swing. >> But it is small enough to distinguish between > 1 million years (claimed by >> scientists) and < 10.000 years claimed by the bible. (creation of the earth) >> And there are other proofs, like distribution of some uran and oxygen >> isotopes. > Exactly ! > However, I know some will choose "faith" over science, so this is one > debate that will change nobody's mind. > Enjoy ! > Regards, > Ron The current prevailing scientific calculations on the age of the earth have determined that it is about three to four billion years old. Most biblical literalists believe that the earth is just 6009 years old. This belief is based on the calculations of Bishop James Usher, Archbishop of Armagh, Ireland (1581-1636), who deduced through his interpretations of the Bible that the earth was created in 4004 BCE. To many of those who do not accept the deductions of Bishop Usher, the belief is known as "The Young Earth Theory". Many folks who live in my area believe in the theory of Bishop Usher. I have perused several books which make a quite serious attempt to support the theory. It may greatly surprise many of you to know that some of these books were written and published just a very few years ago. Also there are some religious organizations that are currently producing "educational" films presenting and upholding the Young Earth Theory. The books and the films are part of the curricula of some Christian schools in my area. Many parents around here send their children to the private Christian schools instead of to the public schools because they disagree with what is being taught in the public schools, especially with regard to science. The Christian schools have developed their own kind of "science". They call it "Creation Science". To me, Creation Science is a religious belief system based on faith, not science. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 23:50:56 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: M$ SQL attack, Film recommendation Hi all, I would still suggest that scientific points of debate would be better validated with references, rather than opinion or recollections of fact. A multimedia tool like Arachne is a great platform for presenting and dissecting various topics, including this one. There are so many throw-away computers now, every kiddo in school could have their own Arachne learning machine. Sam (with his usual flair for interesting facts) gave some nice history, with several specifics that would make for a productive web search. I imagine (although I haven't tried) that there would be enough hits for any interested person to put together all sides of the Usher - "The Young Earth Theory" debate. But, without references for the other items, I'm left to accept those tidbits of science based on (uh, er, um) faith. Does the word "prevailing" mean that different scientists can reach different conclusions based on identical scientific calculations? Enjoying the day, Bob On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:33:22 -0500 "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:49:07 +0000, Ron Clarke wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:42:11 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard > Menedetter) > > wrote: > > >> PS: C14 ... I know that there is a relatively big error swing. > >> But it is small enough to distinguish between > 1 million years > (claimed by > >> scientists) and < 10.000 years claimed by the bible. (creation of > the earth) > >> And there are other proofs, like distribution of some uran and > oxygen > >> isotopes. > > > Exactly ! > > > However, I know some will choose "faith" over science, so this is > one > > debate that will change nobody's mind. > > > Enjoy ! > > > Regards, > > Ron > > The current prevailing scientific calculations on the age of the > earth have determined that it is about three to four billion years > old. > > Most biblical literalists believe that the earth is just 6009 years > old. This belief is based on the calculations of Bishop James > Usher, > Archbishop of Armagh, Ireland (1581-1636), who deduced through his > interpretations of the Bible that the earth was created in 4004 > BCE. > > To many of those who do not accept the deductions of Bishop Usher, > the belief is known as "The Young Earth Theory". Many folks who > live > in my area believe in the theory of Bishop Usher. I have perused > several books which make a quite serious attempt to support the > theory. > It may greatly surprise many of you to know that some of these > books > were written and published just a very few years ago. Also there > are > some religious organizations that are currently producing > "educational" > films presenting and upholding the Young Earth Theory. The books > and > the films are part of the curricula of some Christian schools in my > area. > Many parents around here send their children to the private > Christian > schools instead of to the public schools because they disagree with > what > is being taught in the public schools, especially with regard to > science. > The Christian schools have developed their own kind of "science". > They > call it "Creation Science". To me, Creation Science is a religious > belief system based on faith, not science. > > Sam Heywood > -- > This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: > http://browser.arachne.cz/ > > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2035 ******************************
