arachne-digest       Friday, February 14 2003       Volume 01 : Number 2048




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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:58:28 -0500 (EST)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Iraq vs. N Korea

Excerpt from Bastiaan Edelman:

> A Japanese and a Chinese can write to each other and understand most of
> it... but talking to each other is useless.

I didn't realize Japanese and Chinese written languages were so close.  You
mean a Chinese could read a Japanese newspaper, and vice versa?  But Korean has
a different look to me, I think I might tell Chinese from Korean printed matter,
but no way could I distinguish handwritten Chinese from handwritten Korean.

If intonation is such a critical part of spoken Chinese, I'd be really lost in
that language.

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Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:21:26 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Japanese (was Re: Iraq vs. N Korea)

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 03:58:28 -0500 (EST), Thomas Mueller wrote:

> Excerpt from Bastiaan Edelman:

>> A Japanese and a Chinese can write to each other and understand most of
>> it... but talking to each other is useless.

> I didn't realize Japanese and Chinese written languages were so close.  You
> mean a Chinese could read a Japanese newspaper, and vice versa?  But Korean 
has
> a different look to me, I think I might tell Chinese from Korean printed 
matter,
> but no way could I distinguish handwritten Chinese from handwritten Korean.

> If intonation is such a critical part of spoken Chinese, I'd be really lost in
> that language.

Written Japanese is very complex.  The characters it is written in were
adapted from Chinese but through a long process came to symbolize
Japanese words of similar sound and meaning. In the process the
characters were simplified and made more cursive to the point where
many characters retain little of nothing of their original shape.

The characters (called Kanji) have two sets of meanings. One based on
the sound of the original Chinese. Another is based on native Japanese
words of similar meaning.

The characters may also be used to represent the sounds of Japanese
syllables. There are two systems of this syllabic representation.
(hiragana and katakana)

All three systems are used in modern Japanese and you couldn't read
a newspaper without knowing all three.

There are currently just under two thousand Kanji in common use and
the phonetic representations have been modernized.

I once thought of trying to learn Japanese and did a little reading
about it. The spoken language is simpler than the writen, but the
combination is quite daunting.

Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:52:12 +1030
From: "Kevin JCJD Symons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reply problems

I had a couple of power spike [I believe] and lost a few files on my
HDD's, but since then I have been unable to reply to any incoming
messages. What could have gone wrong? What is a possible solution, or
have a reset something wrong?

Kevin...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:00:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reply problems

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Kevin JCJD Symons wrote:

> I had a couple of power spike [I believe] and lost a few files on my
> HDD's, but since then I have been unable to reply to any incoming
> messages. What could have gone wrong? What is a possible solution, or
> have a reset something wrong?
>
> Kevin...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

You might have lost clusters.  This kind of peoblem is frequently
encountered after power spikes and power outages which occur during a
time when you have your computer turned on.

Usually you can fix lost cluster problems by running CHKDSK with the
"F" parameter, as in "CHKDSK /F".  If you have lost clusters, fixing
that problem might be the only remedy required.  If you don't know
which files you are missing, and if you can't just simply restore
them from a backup, then you might have to reinstall Arachne.

Good luck!

Sam Heywood
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Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:40:36 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reply problems

Hi Kevin,
          I have had this kind of troubles a few times.
Arachne.cfg file did change for no obvious reason.
Since then I keep a copy of arachne.cfg under a changed name like:
arachne.c!g. If something goes wrong I just reinstall the original.

In fact I use 3 different arachne.cfg file for 3 different providers 
and I can swith between those by a simple batch file.

Hope yoy will find what is wrong.

CU, Bastiaan




On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:52:12 +1030, Kevin JCJD Symons wrote:

> I had a couple of power spike [I believe] and lost a few files on my
> HDD's, but since then I have been unable to reply to any incoming
> messages. What could have gone wrong? What is a possible solution, or
> have a reset something wrong?

> Kevin...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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