arachne-digest Tuesday, May 27 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2129
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:20:19 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M$-Lookout question? On Thu, 22 May 2003 21:58:53 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > I think it is far too much to ask of the M-idiots to try to correct > what they are doing wrong. They just can't fathom why they shouldn't > be doing what almost everybody else does. Many of them think that if > even their bosses and their university professors do what almost > everyone else does, then it must be the right thing to do. That certainly seems to be the way they think. There is a common but erroneous belief that those who are in higher positions or are paid more MUST be more intelligent. On another thing, I would also like to see them drop the habit of including the whole of the incoming message on the bottom of their reply. especially when that incoming message also had the message it was replying to, and so on back for umpteen generations. OTOH since most of the M$idiots are on line 24/7, and their mail up/downloads are background tasks, they wouldn't notice the time taken to send or receive a 60k reply whose new content is only "Yes." from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:22:20 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How did they find out who the culprit is? On Sat, 24 May 2003 03:11:54 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > How do the sysadmins at "myrealbox.com" know for certain that the > virus sender is the person whose email address they named? Maybe they don't. But by sending him a copy they are letting him know that infected material is being sent out under his name. I think it is an excellent idea. I would sure want to know it if people were sending out viruses attached to messages purporting to come from me. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:34:42 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Personal control page * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-1053984884 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit On Thu, 22 May 2003 14:39:42 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: > I can not draw in DOS but use PAINT in win or use the circuit diagram > drawer (windows too). YOU HAVE A CIRCUIT DRAWER!!!! What is it and where did you get it? > Other possibilities: there a lots of pictures out there on the web or > take a scanner. Large pictures are scaled down, the colors altered or > inverted with Picture View (DOS). > The original .ikn pictures in Arachne are hopeless but there is no > need... .gif or .bmp are fine too. Yes, I discovered that. > You may take a screen shot with "print screen" and modify the image. If you mean the normal "Print Screen" that sends the output to the printer. Are you thinking of Arachne's <F2> screen save? But I've solved the problem by using buttons -- see attached. So far I'm still experimenting but it looks as though I should be able to use at least ten lines. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-1053984884 Content-Type: text/html ;name=mine.htm Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html> <TITLE>Greg's Personal Desktop</TITLE> <BODY ARACHNE NORESIZE> <CENTER> <FONT 3D SIZE=3D6> < Greg's Personal Desktop ></FONT> <HR SIZE=3D4> <LINK=3Dblue> <TABLE WIDTH=3D600> <small> <TR> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:@:*.*"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" The Computer "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:*.*"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D"view all files"> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:*.htm"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" view HTML "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:*.txt"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" View *.txt "> <TR> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file://outbox.dgi"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" <<OUTBOX>> "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"smtp:"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Send mail >> "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"pop3:"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Get mail << "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file://inbox.dgi"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" >>INBOX<< "> <TR> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"mailto:";> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Compose mail "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"system\gui\sendfile.ah"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Send files >>"> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:c:\home\default.htm"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D"WebPage(local)"> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:oops\ftp.ook"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" call FTP-WIZ "> <TR> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"arachne:addressbook"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Address book "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file://system\gui\makelist.ah"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Make List "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file://trashfolder.dgi"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" view Trash "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file://emptytrash.dgi"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Empty Trash "> <TR> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file://oops/nnews.ook"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" News Groups "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:read/htmlprim.htm"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" HTML primer "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:read/index.htm"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Better HTML "> <TD ALIGN=3DCENTER WIDTH=3D25%> <FORM ACTION=3D"file:mine.htm"> <INPUT TYPE=3D"SUBMIT" VALUE=3D" Blank "> </TABLE> <HR> <SMALL> revised 2003-05-23. Press <B><F1></B> key to view <A HREF=3D"help.htm">Arachne documentation</A>. <p><B><Alt-D></B> to Dial, <B><Alt-H></b> to disconnect, <B><Alt-X></B> to exit<P><B><K></b> to view the list of keyboard controls </SMALL> </CENTER> </html> - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-1053984884-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:13:40 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne Wish List On Thu, 22 May 2003 08:59:20 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Arachne works ok for low volume situations and is easy to setup > and use. It just has limitations. And it's not apt to be "fixed" > any time soon because of the small number of users. 1. My situation is low volume... 34 messages today is still classed as low, isn't it? 2. AFAIK Glenn McCorkle is still working on upgrades of Arachne, regardless of the low number of users. Maybe its weaknesses will be "fixed" one day. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:28:10 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: At last...read newsgroups with Arachne .. NOT ! On Thu, 22 May 2003 13:51:32 +1000, Ron Clarke wrote: > I did all of that, with the difference being that this installation of > Arachne is situated on D drive in the directory D:\ARAC171 Mine is in C:\ARA171... > I edited ALL .BAT files to show the correct paths. So did I. > On installation, I got a number of error messages - "directory not > found" mostly. Odd... I had no trouble... > So, I manually made the directories of d:\arac171\mail\nnews and > d:\arac171\spool > I am using Shift+F9 for something else, so I set the Option to Shift+F10 To test it, I selected "All files" from the <F10> Desktop, then located the OOPS\NNEWS.OOK file and ran it from there. No problems. > Any suggestions ? Yes, edit the NNEWS.OOK file as follows: 1. add REM before the @echo off in the first line. 2. Add PAUSE after the following lines: (a) D:\ARA171\tcpport.exe.... [etc.] (b) call nnews.bat 3. Add PAUSE as the last line in NNEWS.BAT Then the system will run one command at a time, with all the commands visible, and you should be able to work out which command is causing the error. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:17:36 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: future On Thu, 22 May 2003 16:49:38 +0200, Florian Xaver wrote: > But who says, that Arachne won't have a great future? Think positive :-) Only some pessimistic people. But _WE_ know better <G> > bye, flox Flox? Oh yes, of course... bye from Grem from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:30:13 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How did they find out who the culprit is? On Sun, 25 May 2003 04:39:53 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > I guess it doesn't matter to them who the ultimate culprit might > be, they are trying to not allow spam or viruses to flow through > their system. And IMO it is thoughtful of them to notify the person who appears to be the sender of the message that it was infected. Just as one of a countless number of possibilities, it could be that his system is infecting his outgoing mail. If my system was doing that, I'd certainly want to know about it, quick smart!!!! from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:11:25 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lookout question? On Thu, 22 May 2003 04:37:03 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Real modems won't just plug and play for you. You have to have enough > technical expertise to know how to read a schematic illustrating the > positions of jumpers and/or DIP switches. Also you will have to know I don't think I've seen any plugs and DIP switches on modems for a long time... But let's see... Nope, not even on the internal one that died. The old 2400 baud external and all the later ones I still have don't use either jumpers or DIP switches. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:37:07 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How did they find out who the culprit is? On Sun, 25 May 2003 01:12:08 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > They don't even inform me about what facts they are basing their > conclusions. That being the case, we are led right back to my > original question which is the subject of this thread. If they > are going to name the culprit they ought to declare some very > good reasons for their thinking he is the one who did it, otherwise > many questions will be asked as to whether the person named as the > culprit is the person who really did do it. I suggest that you inform the alleged sender of the message that he may have a case for an action for libel. Then we may find out the whole story at the court case. Until then everything we say here is based on supposition. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:33:33 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NEW MONEY On Sun, 25 May 2003 21:52:24 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh... I don't know what Sam's ISP uses, but that e-mail > only got 4.9 points from Spamassassin. 0.1 shy of getting > into my spamfolder. About a year or two back, I saw a message someone posted somewhere complaining that one of their messages had been blocked by a University server because it contained that word which is pronounced like POOR NOG RAFFY, but they wrote out the word in its normal form. At the end of the message, they complained that most likely this complaint also wouldn't get through because it also contained the forbidden word. I wonder whether this one will get through your Spamassissin... probably my miss-spelling will confuse it enough <G> from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:37:51 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Garbage, Spam or Virus????? Is anyone else getting garbage mail like the following? I'm receiving up to three a day, none of them with any content to the message. =============================================================================================================================== == From: "88rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 27 May 03 07:32:57 �x�_�зǮɶ� Mailer:Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitchens =============================================================================================================================== == >From Greg Mayman - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 03:13:14 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How did they find out who the culprit is? On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:22:20 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Sat, 24 May 2003 03:11:54 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> How do the sysadmins at "myrealbox.com" know for certain that the >> virus sender is the person whose email address they named? > Maybe they don't. But by sending him a copy they are letting him know > that infected material is being sent out under his name. > I think it is an excellent idea. > I would sure want to know it if people were sending out viruses attached > to messages purporting to come from me. If he didn't do it, then by the sending to him a copy of the misdeed that was done they are unjustly accusing him of committing the crime. Also by publishing in an email message sent to a list of "undisclosed recipients" saying that he did it, they commit libel unless they can prove that he did in fact do it. It is a very bad idea to accuse a person of commiting a crime unless you have some very good evidence indicating that he probably did it. Also it is a very bad idea to commit libel because the person who has unjustly suffered having had his reputation damaged can have his lawyers take you to the cleaners for that. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 03:35:42 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Personal control page On Mon, 26 May 2003 17:34:42 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Thu, 22 May 2003 14:39:42 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: >> I can not draw in DOS but use PAINT in win or use the circuit diagram >> drawer (windows too). > YOU HAVE A CIRCUIT DRAWER!!!! What is it and where did you get it? <snip> In the early 90's the wife of one of my co-workers was employed by a company to draw highly detailed circuit diagrams for printed circuit boards having lots of integrated circuit chips by using a DOS version of AutoCad. My co-worker told me that he was most highly impressed with all the marvellous things the AutoCad program could do. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 03:38:15 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How did they find out who the culprit is? On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:30:13 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2003 04:39:53 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: >> I guess it doesn't matter to them who the ultimate culprit might >> be, they are trying to not allow spam or viruses to flow through >> their system. > And IMO it is thoughtful of them to notify the person who appears to be > the sender of the message that it was infected. No, it is not thoughtful at all. How would you like it if you were to find your inbox flooded with hundreds of "bounced" messages that you didn't even send? Wouldn't you have just preferred that the virus filters would have just simply deleted the nasty things and pronounced them dead on arrival? Unless you can turn in your viruses for a bounty it is best to just kill them and bury them in the mass grave known as "dev/null". I have received lots of viruses where the "From:" header gives the name and email address of an Arachne list member. I just delete the virus and I never inform the fellow list member about it because I have no reason to believe that the person named in the "From:" header is the culprit. > Just as one of a countless number of possibilities, it could be that his > system is infecting his outgoing mail. If my system was doing that, I'd > certainly want to know about it, quick smart!!!! You can easily prevent your system from ever doing that simply by going to the command line and entering and running the following command: "deltree c:\windows" Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 11:31:37 +0300 From: Cristian Burneci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Garbage, Spam or Virus????? I have received three messages of this kind until now. They do have some HTML content attached... Opening it directs you to some asian site. Pe data de Tue, 27 May 2003 16:37:51 +0930 "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a scris: > Is anyone else getting garbage mail like the following? I'm receiving > up to three a day, none of them with any content to the message. > > ===================================================================== > ============================================================ > > From: "88rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 27 May 03 07:32:57 �x�_�зǮɶ� > Mailer:Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 > Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitchens > > ===================================================================== > ============================================================ > > From Greg Mayman > > -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 07:47:16 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lookout question? On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:11:25 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > I don't think I've seen any plugs and DIP switches on modems for a long > time... > But let's see... Nope, not even on the internal one that died. > The old 2400 baud external and all the later ones I still have don't use > either jumpers or DIP switches. External modems wouldn't have jumpers. Jumpers are found on internal modems of the non plug and play variety--meaning not any sort of "Winmodem" at all. Getting rarer all the time. You use the jumpers to set comm port and IRQ. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 07:53:00 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne Wish List On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:13:40 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: >> Arachne works ok for low volume situations and is easy to setup >> and use. It just has limitations. And it's not apt to be "fixed" >> any time soon because of the small number of users. > 1. My situation is low volume... 34 messages today is still classed as > low, isn't it? > 2. AFAIK Glenn McCorkle is still working on upgrades of Arachne, > regardless of the low number of users. Maybe its weaknesses will be > "fixed" one day. Yep, 34 messages is low volume. If you had a couple of hundred to sort through then Arachne's Insight would drive you crazy. Yes, we can hope that improvements are coming from Glenn and perhaps from others. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 07:54:48 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Garbage, Spam or Virus????? Sure, I get stuff like this all the time. On Tue, 27 May 2003 16:37:51 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > Is anyone else getting garbage mail like the following? I'm receiving up > to three a day, none of them with any content to the message. > ============================================================================================================================= = > == > From: "88rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 27 May 03 07:32:57 �x�_�зǮɶ� > Mailer:Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 > Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitchens > ============================================================================================================================= = > == >> From Greg Mayman > -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 08:48:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: NEW MONEY On Tue, 27 May 2003, Greg Mayman wrote: > About a year or two back, I saw a message someone posted somewhere > complaining that one of their messages had been blocked by a University > server because it contained that word which is pronounced like POOR NOG > RAFFY, but they wrote out the word in its normal form. > > At the end of the message, they complained that most likely this > complaint also wouldn't get through because it also contained the > forbidden word. > > I wonder whether this one will get through your Spamassissin... probably > my miss-spelling will confuse it enough <G> SpamAssassain assigns a certain number of points for each "transgression." A single word, no matter what, isn't enough to trigger the spam flag in the default configuration. If I *wanted* to, I could either set "pornography" to get 5 points, or I could set the spam flag threshold at some ridiculously low score like 2. I also have procmail set to send to /dev/null anything assigned 8 points or more by SpamAssassin. - -- Steve Ackman http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?) http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 08:25:32 -0500 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Jos=E9=20Antonio=20Pineda=20Figueroa?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Garbage, Spam or Virus????? Hi Gregg, yes, I am receiving it, too, and i suspect it's due to the lack of security of arachne's list for before subscribing i received anything of this kind at all. By the way, answering your question: it's spam, sometimes porno, sometimes "free oferts", sometimes (I guess) something else. It looks funny because it's sometimes just text codified in GB-5, a format like ASCII used to write mandarin chinese on computers... use CJK viewer to see yourselves (sorry, it's a M$-Win software, but a very, very good one, indeed!!! &BTW, produced by an aussie company) Sometimes it's just garbage... but I've also got the feeling it might be an ID to track down which receivers are actually receiving/answering it... Sometimes you'll also see a field or some buttons... DON'T EVER, EVER, EVER CLICK ON THEM!!! I did it some days ago, curious about whither I may go.... guess what? A "thanks for subscribing" from a web site promoting "free offerts", and another window popped-up with the same message, but from a hentai (japanese cartoons) site... I was afraid I was going to get flooded by spam, fortunely i haven't - just the usual amount of 10-15 messages a day ;-) 27/05/03 2:07:51, "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi�: > From: "88rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 27 May 03 07:32:57 �x�_�зǮɶ� > Mailer:Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 > Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] kitchens ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:06:44 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: How did they find out who the culpri It seems that everytime someone bitches about spam and describes what and how they get the spam, the Arachne list is harvested by a spammer. When I started forwarding the Nigerian scams to the Secret Service address, I started getting more and more Nigerian letters. The same happened when I reported spam to Compuserve. Now I just hit the delete key and not worry about how the messages got to me. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:06:48 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Lookout question? My main modem on my office computer is a Practical Peripherals 28.8 external modem. I also have a "real" 56K, V.92/V.44 external modem that apparently is too fast for Compuserve (at times) that I use to download larger files. To use the 56K modem with DOS, I simply unplug the PP modem and plug the 56K modem in. However, to change modems with Windoze, I have to tell Windoze that I have a new modem, select the new modem, reboot and hope that it will accept the new modem (most of the time it doesn't) and then use the new modem. Repeat a lie often enough and everyone will believe it. "Windoze is simple and intuitive." Repeat! Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Sam Ewalt wrote: . > On Tue, 27 May 2003 15:11:25 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: . > > I don't think I've seen any plugs and DIP switches on modems for a long . > > time... . > > But let's see... Nope, not even on the internal one that died. . > > The old 2400 baud external and all the later ones I still have don't use . > > either jumpers or DIP switches. . > External modems wouldn't have jumpers. Jumpers are found on internal . > modems of the non plug and play variety--meaning not any sort of . > "Winmodem" at all. Getting rarer all the time. You use the jumpers . > to set comm port and IRQ. . > Sam Ewalt . > Croswell, Michigan, USA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:06:46 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Garbage, Spam or Virus????? Yes, I just delete them. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Greg Mayman wrote: . > Is anyone else getting garbage mail like the following? I'm receiving up . > to three a day, none of them with any content to the message. . > ========================================================================== . > ============================================= . > . > From: "88rd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . > To: "kitchens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . > Date: Tue, 27 May 03 07:32:57 �x�_�D��R�P� . > Mailer:Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 . > Subject: |w�p W,�-- �|[EMAIL PROTECTED] kitchens . > ========================================================================== . > ============================================= . > . > From Greg Mayman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:13:30 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: What are you doing wrong? [was Re: Arachne Wish List On Tue, 27 May 2003 07:53:00 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Yep, 34 messages is low volume. If you had a couple of hundred to > sort through then Arachne's Insight would drive you crazy. I often have multi-hundred messages to plow through, I've used IE & N both on 'top end' machines, and Arachne is the best way to get rid of crap quickly & easily that I've found. True, with Netscrape etal you can do the CTRL-click to 'batch mark' files for deletion, but one mail message will be loaded to begin with, like it or not ... and it is very time consuming, getting through a list of e-mails when only 5 or 10 message lines can be shown at once. It's crappy, and I'll take Arachne any day. With Arachne I open to the inbox; I go down to the bottom to check the number on the latest message I've kept, I remember it, then I do my mail download. Once everything has been indexed [by date received if one has any brains] it's quite simple to use "/" or F-7 to get to the last old kept message. From there it is right-click on the subject of every message you don't want to even read ... when you get to the bottom of the page it is DEL and "space" to fill the screen again [with hi res that's 11 messages per screen for me], then more right-click with DEL at bottom of screen. I know from experience Arachne allows the fastest and SAFEST way [no mail opened unless you want it opened] of any of the browsers I've had to deal with. The only thing comparable to the ease of handling junk mail with Arachne is some of the web-based mail sites with "select all" and click delete; however, they don't let me scan 10 messages at a time. l.d. - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2129 ******************************
