arachne-digest Monday, June 2 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2136
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 19:13:48 +0000 (GMT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Glennmcc's FAX recommendation
Well by golly!
Should have known the other Glenn would have yet another
option for DOS, hehe...say, here's another idea I thought
about. I also have a ZIP of BGFax for DOS...that one I
found on Heimo Classen's text-mode DOS internet page!
I haven't ran it thru any paces yet, but it does look
extremely interesting. I have downloaded the MTEZEXPR.ZIP
form Glenn's page (the other Glenn)...looks pretty good
too!
Oh, Steve, I didn't mean I could send the FAX without my
modem...in that instance, without a modem, I would probably
copy the FAX to diskette, switch to one of my PCs with a
modem, and take it from there, hehe. It might even work
on my old IBM PS2 with a 2400 baud modem...barring that,
well...then I would just walk to the front office of the
store the pharmacy is in and use their FAX machine!
I've asked for a FAX machine in the pharmacy...but, I guess
that is sort of like my requests for pharmacy staff...
NADA! Hehe...
C U L8R!
Wiz <{;-)
Glenn
Glenn Gilbreath, Jr.
Wizard57M
http://members.surfbest.net/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/dos.htm
- -- DOS Internet, Close Windows, Keep the Internet Open! --
- -- DOS Internet, Close Windows, Keep the Internet Open! --
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 17:36:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Glennmcc's FAX recommendation
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Oh, Steve, I didn't mean I could send the FAX without my
> modem...
Neither did I. Luckily, there was an external fax modem
in the next room I could "borrow." ;-)
That was the point. No modem in the machine, but access
to one. No fax software installed, but access to some...
Hardware installation + software installation + sending
fax = less than 5 minutes.
- --
Steve Ackman
http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?)
http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:41:41 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:00:05 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:
> On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:55:20 -0800, Ray Andrews wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>> The one thing that would really make me happy with Insight would
>>> be to have it go automatically to the first new message after a
>>> download--that way you wouldn't have to scroll down or use other
>>> means to get down there with the new messages.
>> I've gota disagree. I always delete my spam before I start looking at
>> my real mail, so going to the first message first would be a negative for
>> me. OTOH, I really like the idea of being able to delete spams after
> Maybe you misunderstand me. Due to laziness my email index frequently
> has around two hundred old messages in it. Then I download new ones,
> including the new batch of spam. I'd like the index to go at my
> option automatically to the first new message listing in the index.
> (I don't want the message itself, just to be at that place in the
> index.) Then I could click and delete the spam and other stuff that
> I don't want from the index. And then click on the message I want
> to read and go from there.
> Usually I do something else during downloads, so they don't bother
> me. And I don't want to bother with a two step procedure of
> downloading headers and then messages. But that's my preferance.
> Added features should always be options left to the user, that way
> we can both be happy.Rrw0-�`
Hi Sam,
Your 'laziness' (as you put it), has caused me to develop this
little 'optional feature'<g>
1) Edit IDXHEAD.HTP (or IDXFAST.HTP if not using tables)...
Add this section just after '<BR>Your eMail'
(you will find it very near the bottom of each file)
<!-- begin 'mark all as old' section -->
<TD WIDTH=20% ALIGN=CENTER><FONT SIZE=3><FORM ACTION="file://markasold.dgi">
<INPUT TYPE=IMAGE SRC="mail02.ikn" BORDER=0">
<BR>Mark all<br>as 'old'
<!-- end 'mark all as old' section -->
Also, be sure to change the other 4 width specs to 20% instead of 25%
2) Edit MAIL.HTM
Add this section just after '<BR>Empty trash'
(also to be found very near the bottom)
<!-- begin 'old mail button' -->
<TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER WIDTH=25%>
<FORM ACTION="file://oldmail.dgi">
<INPUT TYPE=IMAGE SRC="mail03.ikn" BORDER=0>
<BR>Old mail<br>still in 'Inbox'
<!-- end 'old mail button' -->
3) Add these 3 lines to MIME.CFG
file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.old
file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.old -cache=$t>$2
file/.old >HTM|[115]$einsight.exe $1 -cache=$t>$2
That's it 1,2,3 you're done.<g g g>
Now you can hit the "Mark all as 'old'"
button and all CNMs will be renamed as OLDs
(they will no-longer show in your inbox)
Press 'M' and hit the "Old mail still in 'Inbox'" button to see them.
I will now use this new 'feature' to reply to your second message. ;-)
(replying to L:\ARACHNE\MAIL\54499513.OLD)
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:56:08 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2003 21:11:02 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bingo. The hot brown liquid served by most restaurants
>> and coffee shops doesn't actually even qualify as proper
>> coffee. Then again, I'm super spoiled never having to drink
>> coffee ground more than 2 minutes prior to brewing, nor
>> roasted more than 5 days prior to grinding.
> I guess I shouldn't tell you that I actually drink Folger's Instant.
> I'm sure it doesn't qualify as "coffee" but it does feed my addiction.
>>> Amen, brother! And I really do enjoy your posts about the joys of
>>> Linux. It's geat to see the possibilities.
>> Like an Arachne 2.x that runs on Flowerpot(?) which runs
>> on any OS. Haven't heard anything about that one for quite
>> a while. :-/
> I subscribe to the Arachne development list and a message floats
> through once in a great while. Recently Michael claimed to be
> working on Arachne 2, but I have no idea of it's actual status.
> He's thinking about it at least. I don't think he has much time
> to program anymore.
Hi Sam,
I too am subscribed to the Arachne-Development list.
I'll CC this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that all
of us who are subed can see if this 'spurs' some activity. ;-)
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:14:24 -0300
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Fw: OT: I love simplicity
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: OT: I love simplicity
> On Sat, 31 May 2003 21:11:02 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>
> > Bingo.
The hot brown liquid served by most restaurants
> > and coffee shops doesn't actually even qualify as proper
> > coffee. Then again, I'm super spoiled never having to drink
> > coffee ground more than 2 minutes prior to brewing, nor
> > roasted more than 5 days prior to grinding.
Roasted?....wow...actually very strict procedures eh?
Let me say to the cafeteria where usually I go.........
Capuccino and Spresso on the go !
I supposed that coffee had been roasted as replacing every week , upon
customer demand (at tables) !
> I guess I shouldn't tell you that I actually drink Folger's Instant.
I never will drink that stuff again !!!!! :)
> I'm sure it doesn't qualify as "coffee" but it does feed my addiction.
>
> >> Amen, brother!
You know a lot about Linux.....
I am impressed....
But let me say that in terms of cafeine-watchers there are much flavors (as
kernels ).......
What about saying "amen"....and Steve is a fundamental christian? (btw Grand
Rapids, Michigan is sorta of Vatican)
I never saw so much close churches in an US city.
It is one of the states of the Bible Belt but it could be something wrong to
say.. amen brother....as it could sound very pentecostal......hallelujah x
(n)times :)
What about decafeinated uses at Seventh Day Adventist Church (more health
oriented topics) ?
Or Word of Wisdom (faith creed) of Later Day Saints church (conversely
mormons) ?
As you see above there are lot of humans doing coffee abstinence but using
antiallergy non prescribed pills :)
Personally I like brazilian coffee as here in Argentina we have a good
tradeoff (delicious apples , pears, merlot wines, etc in exchange for
tropical comodities as coffee and bananas....he,...also good local partially
assembled german cars...)
*********
And I really do enjoy your posts about the joys of
> >> Linux. It's geat to see the possibilities.
Hey guys, yesterday...I bought at local chapter of eBAY a HP9000 server 800
E25 for TEN BUCKS !!! (no memory nor disk)....
Is it too expensive ?
(no shipping as it is in my area)
I think to compile there Debian linux as a diskless workstation with
www.parisc-linux.org
Steve: any hint ?
Have good weekend.
Rafael (aka Elliot)
>
> > Like an Arachne 2.x that runs on Flowerpot(?) which runs
> > on any OS. Haven't heard anything about that one for quite
> > a while. :-/
>
> I subscribe to the Arachne development list and a message floats
> through once in a great while. Recently Michael claimed to be working on
Arachne 2, but I have no idea of it's actual status.
> He's thinking about it at least. I don't think he has much time
> to program anymore.
>
>
>
> Sam Ewalt
> Croswell, Michigan, USA
> -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:56:50 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:41:41 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> 3) Add these 3 lines to MIME.CFG
> file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.old
> file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.old -cache=$t>$2
> file/.old >HTM|[115]$einsight.exe $1 -cache=$t>$2
Update.....
I just realized that using .OLD as the file extension prevents
the 'Move' button from showing when we view one of those files. :(
So change those lines in MIME.CFG so that they
use .MES as file extension.
file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.mes
file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.mes -cache=$t>$2
The 3rd line will no-longer need to be added
because it already exists in MIME.CFG
(used for reading messages that have been moved to other folders)
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:20:33 -0700
From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: OT: I love simplicity
Umm coffee ... I cut down from a million cups a day to 2-3.
Linux distro: I will go with 6.2 orso, should I download distro to HDD I
will be using or to this 40gig & burn a CD?
Since this will be pure Linux how should I format [reformat] this HDD?
I could dual-boot this machine [700AMD/256] but I would be more
comfortable learning about Linux on a separate puter for now.
[gots lots of work with Pagemaker to do] ...
I could use a 166 Pentium instead of 90 ... would this make a noticable
difference with the same RAM? [64]
I have to drive 5 miles to town ... darn. Being close to the coast this
means sun here/fog in town [summer] ... my tomatoes actually grow!
hee, hee.
Thanks for all the Linux info.
later,
rick
'70 BMW 2002
'70 MB 220D
'97-'02 Gatos
'99 Goldfish [large]
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:37:19 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:56:50 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 17:41:41 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>> 3) Add these 3 lines to MIME.CFG
>> file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.old
>> file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.old -cache=$t>$2
>> file/.old >HTM|[115]$einsight.exe $1 -cache=$t>$2
> Update.....
> I just realized that using .OLD as the file extension prevents
> the 'Move' button from showing when we view one of those files. :(
> So change those lines in MIME.CFG so that they
> use .MES as file extension.
> file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.mes
> file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|[130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.mes -cache=$t>$2
> The 3rd line will no-longer need to be added
> because it already exists in MIME.CFG
> (used for reading messages that have been moved to other folders)
Oops, another update is needed.
Using '.MES' does not work correctly either. :(
(kicks us back to the Arachne_main dir instead of the mail_dir for
listing the folders to which we can then move)
Use these lines in MIME.CFG and all will be fine. :))
file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.old
file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|ren $M*.old *.cnm
\n [130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.snt -cache=$t>$2
(line broken for this email, place all on one line in mime.cfg)
Again....
The 3rd line will no-longer need to be added
because *now* we are changing them back to .CNMs for viewing. ;-)
gawd... I just LOVE 'debugging' :)))
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:50:26 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133
On Sun, 01 Jun 2003 19:37:19 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
<snip>
> Use these lines in MIME.CFG and all will be fine. :))
> file/markasold.dgi |ren $M*.cnm *.old
> file/oldmail.dgi >HTM|ren $M*.old *.cnm
> \n [130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.snt -cache=$t>$2
> (line broken for this email, place all on one line in mime.cfg)
I just HATE 'typos'... don't you ??? <g>
\n [130]$einsight.exe -i $M*.cnm -cache=$t>$2
(.cnm not .snt ^^^)
- --
Glenn
http://arachne.cz/
http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:55:49 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Compuserve was: Lookout question
On Thu, 29 May 2003 23:17:20 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:
> Greg Mayman wrote,
> .. > Yes, I understand what you're saying. Have you tried to talk to the
> .. > "experts' at Compuserve about it?
> Har, Har, Har, Har!
> Compuserve forum SysOps, although quite knowledgable, are *volunteers* and do
> not work for Compuserve. Even they have a problem getting information to
> Compuserve personnel, and they make open jokes about it.
Sorry. Sometimes I get off in a world of my own where things are better
and more logical and I forget what the reasl world is like...
> I posted the question on the Tapcis Forum (Tapcis is an e-mail program
> written purely for Compuserve) and got two responses. One asked if I had any
> non-ASCII characters in the message and the other person said I "need a
> techie to exam the entire message."
I'm never surprised at how basic their questions can be. But one must
remember that they are used to dealing with idiots, most of the time.
As an example which I am assured REALLY HAPPENED! (Is that possible? Of
course it is)
"My problem is that the cursor on the screen has disappeared."
"What were you doing before it disappeared? What programs were you
running?"
"I was using Word for Windows to write a letter, then suddenly the
cursor just disappeared."
"OK. Now if you move the mouse around and click it, does any of the
text get highlighted?"
"No, the text is gone as well."
"Is there anything on the screen?"
"No."
"Hmmm... maybe the cable to the monitor has come unpligged. Can you see
whether it is still plugged in securely?"
"No, it's a bit hard...."
"Why is that?"
"The lights have all gone out. I think we've got a blackout."
"OK. I see. Now have you still got the boxes the computer came in? Right
then pack everything up and take it back to where you bought it and tell
them you are TOO F***ING STUPID TO OWN A COMPUTER!"
Univ!
from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
"Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm
- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 21:46:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: OT: I love simplicity
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Rick Orr wrote:
> Umm coffee ... I cut down from a million cups a day to 2-3.
I used to drink 5 pots a day. Then I cut down to 2 cups,
but as a coffee roaster, it's practically part of the job,
so I'm up to just "drink it all day" however much that is.
> Linux distro: I will go with 6.2 orso, should I download distro to HDD I
> will be using or to this 40gig & burn a CD?
Burn to CD will probably be easiest. If you can boot that
machine from CD, it'll be really easy, otherwise, you'll
need to create a bootdisk. Look around in the CD under
something like dosutils and the directions will be there.
> Since this will be pure Linux how should I format [reformat] this HDD?
You might like to have a small 5 MB or so DOS partition.
Other than that, a swap partition of 128MB or so, and the
rest you can leave as one huge ext2 partition. If you chop
it up too much, it'll be difficult later on to use it to its
fullest.
> I could dual-boot this machine [700AMD/256] but I would be more
> comfortable learning about Linux on a separate puter for now.
> [gots lots of work with Pagemaker to do] ...
>
> I could use a 166 Pentium instead of 90 ... would this make a noticable
> difference with the same RAM? [64]
I didn't notice a LOT of difference going from AMD K-75 to
P-166, but AMD works better than Pentium anyway, so it's
probably not fair to compare.
> I have to drive 5 miles to town ... darn. Being close to the coast this
> means sun here/fog in town [summer] ... my tomatoes actually grow!
I roast(ed) in Portsmouth, NH... right on the coast.
(I put it that way because I have one more day at work.)
The packers come tomorrow and the movers on Tuesday. I'll
be offline for... who knows how long after that. We have an
offer on our house, and a house in MN in mind, but nothing
in writing on either end. Could be a few weeks, or many.
I'm hoping for a miracle; to be all moved into the new place
in less than a month.
- --
Steve Ackman
http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?)
http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:41:12 +0900
From: "Kali Mclaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Faxmodems
Dear List
>> Does anyone know if a faxmodem for the computer is a special one?
> I don't think so. If the modem part works on your
> computer, the fax part should too.
I dont think this is correct. I have had modems which would not send
faxes. It is not just a matter of speed as I have a 2.4KB internal which
will, and a real Hayes 14.4 which wont. I think I have a netcom 9.6KB
machine which wont also.
Kali
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Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:22:00 +0900
From: "Kali Mclaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: I love simplicity
On Fri, 30 May 2003 13:33:12 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Congratulations Steve! I am genuinely impressed, not having dared to try
faxing out of Liunx.
I can add a funny Window$ story though -
We used to use Winfax until Y2K made its Sydney agents suddenly desert
their shop. What Winfax did was to get the "time to send" settings
wrong, by about a century!
So I started using DOSFAX which is fine once you find out all the
nasties - it trips over just about every TSR in the machine. I just
rem out everything in config.sys when I am contemplating sending a fax.
Kali
http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali
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Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 20:12:10 +0900
From: "Kali Mclaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133
Ray Wrote:
> I've gota disagree. I always delete my spam before I start looking at
> my real mail, so going to the first message first would be a negative for
> me. OTOH, I really like the idea of being able to delete spams after
> downloading the headers only--I had no idea such a thing was even possible,
> but it sure sounds like a good idea if you get lots of spam, like me :-(
Yes!
I agree. the right mouse click quick delete for spam is an absolute
winner for Arachne. I typically trash half my "in" tray in seconds.
When on a slow or expensive link I go one better - telnet into the
server, run pine, and trash them before even dopwnloading the "in"
tray. Unfortunately this sort of privilege is getting mopped up. I
wonder if I can get the SSH plugin to work and can get our webmaster to
allow such activities ....
Kali
http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:01:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: OT: I love simplicity
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Roasted?....wow...actually very strict procedures eh?
I not only roast on a Diedrich 12 kg at work, but have a
300 gm roaster, a 240 gm roaster, and a couple of modified
hot air corn poppers that'll do about 80-90 gms.
> Let me say to the cafeteria where usually I go.........
>
> Capuccino and Spresso on the go !
I doubt it... but if that's what they want to call it, far
be it for me to call them wrong. ;-)
> I supposed that coffee had been roasted as replacing every week , upon
> customer demand (at tables) !
Roasted beans kept in atmosphere are good for about 7 to
10 days before beginning to stale.
> What about saying "amen"....and Steve is a fundamental christian? (btw Grand
> Rapids, Michigan is sorta of Vatican)
Huh? I'm not, btw.
> It is one of the states of the Bible Belt but it could be something wrong to
> say.. amen brother....as it could sound very pentecostal......hallelujah x
> (n)times :)
Amen means simply, "So be it," or in more common usage,
(as was used here), simply "Yes, I heartily agree."
> Personally I like brazilian coffee as here in Argentina we have a good
> tradeoff (delicious apples , pears, merlot wines, etc in exchange for
> tropical comodities as coffee and bananas....he,...also good local partially
> assembled german cars...)
Brazillian coffee, as a rule, is the cheapest of the South
Americans. Brazil is still the number one coffee producer,
and Vietnam has now taken the number two spot.
I don't much care for Brazillian coffee by itself, but it
does make a good base for espresso blends.
> Hey guys, yesterday...I bought at local chapter of eBAY a HP9000 server 800
> E25 for TEN BUCKS !!! (no memory nor disk)....
>
> Is it too expensive ?
No idea.
> (no shipping as it is in my area)
>
> I think to compile there Debian linux as a diskless workstation with
> www.parisc-linux.org
>
> Steve: any hint ?
Sorry, I've only looked at Debian around '98. Then again
at Knoppix this year. If anyone wants to just take a look
at Linux without any disk partitioning, set-up, or anything
at all, Knoppix boots from the CD (or a bood diskette) and
runs strictly from memory and the CD. It includes KDE, so
that means you need at least 80MB RAM. But it's a good view
of "what's possible" even though it runs very slow, needing
to access the CD all the time.
(but I don't know if there's a Knoppix for RISC)
- --
Steve Ackman
http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?)
http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:25:14 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list PINE was: What are you doing wrong?
On Thu, 29 May 2003 03:11:58 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> Yes. Versions 3.91 and 3.96 for DOS are available. The best place to
> start looking for the download packages is at
> "http://www.washington.edu/pine";
In the download window I could see links for PC-Pine for Windows,
Pine for Unix, Non-UW adaptions of Pine, and Mirror sites. No sign of
Pine for DOS. But I'll go back and look more thoroughly, maybe check out
those mirror sites, when I have more time.
Thanks.
from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
"Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm
- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:32:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: I love simplicity
On Sat, 31 May 2003, Kali Mclaughlin wrote:
> Congratulations Steve! I am genuinely impressed, not having dared to try
> faxing out of Liunx.
I did it once out of RH 5.1 with a 2.0.36 kernel back
around '99. It was more of a 20 minute "time to fax" then
because, as I recall, 'fax' didn't work "out of the box" in
that version, so I had to manually convert the text to G3
TIFF, and use 'efax' directly. Probably if I'd bothered to
actually look at 'fax' I might have been able to get it to
work, but I often go for whatever way looks quickest to get
the job at hand accomplished. Faxing once or twice a year
didn't seem to merit digging into 'fax.'
> I can add a funny Window$ story though -
> We used to use Winfax until Y2K made its Sydney agents suddenly desert
> their shop. What Winfax did was to get the "time to send" settings
> wrong, by about a century!
Heh... :-)
> So I started using DOSFAX which is fine once you find out all the
> nasties - it trips over just about every TSR in the machine. I just
> rem out everything in config.sys when I am contemplating sending a fax.
Sounds like almost a five minute job itself. ;-)
If you send as many faxes as I do, DOSFAX is probably the
way to go, but if you send maybe 3 or 4 a year, you might
want to look at efax. ;-)
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Steve Ackman
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http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 22:34:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Faxmodems
On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Kali Mclaughlin wrote:
> Dear List
> >> Does anyone know if a faxmodem for the computer is a special one?
>
> > I don't think so. If the modem part works on your
> > computer, the fax part should too.
>
> I dont think this is correct. I have had modems which would not send
> faxes. It is not just a matter of speed as I have a 2.4KB internal which
> will, and a real Hayes 14.4 which wont. I think I have a netcom 9.6KB
> machine which wont also.
I was referring specifically to something labelled as a
"fax modem." If the the modem part works, the fax part should
too.
If what you have is not a "fax modem" but just a "modem"
then all bets are off.
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Steve Ackman
http://twoloonscoffee.com (Need green beans?)
http://twovoyagers.com (glass, linux & other stuff)
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:26:00 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133
On Fri, 30 May 2003 14:55:20 -0800, Ray Andrews wrote:
> I've gota disagree. I always delete my spam before I start looking at
> my real mail, so going to the first message first would be a negative for
Yup, same here.
The problem of having the Inbox index looking at the first message
rather than the first of the latest download is easily solved by
EMPTYING the Inbox BEFORE doing the mail download. Then the first
message in the Inbox is the first one of the download.
The mail that was left in the Inbox from previous downloads should
either have been moved to the mail folders or trashed. Or if it is
waiting attention, it could be moved to the Urgent folder.
It is NOT necessary to keep old mail in the Inbox.
If they haven't had time to read it, why the **** are they downloading
another lot of mail anyway?
Do they want to be like a government clerk who always keeps a lot of
stuff piled up in his "IN" basket to show how busy he can pretend to be?
> me. OTOH, I really like the idea of being able to delete spams after
> downloading the headers only--I had no idea such a thing was even possible,
> but it sure sounds like a good idea if you get lots of spam, like me :-(
Yeah, I like that one too!
from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
"Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm
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