arachne-digest Tuesday, June 3 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2137
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:21:22 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A-list PINE was: What are you doing wrong? On Thu, 29 May 2003 03:11:58 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Yes. Versions 3.91 and 3.96 for DOS are available. The best place to > start looking for the download packages is at > "http://www.washington.edu/pine"; After I searched the site properly I found them and downloaded both. > Several fellow Arachne list members and myself have used the DOS > versions of PINE. All of us have reported that the DOS versions > suffer frequent lockups and crashes due to memory management > problems. PINE for DOS is usable, but you can expect to experience > at times the reported problems. Was this with 3.91 or the larger 3.96? And does LOAD HIGH (LH) help or not? > The DOS versions of PINE are compatible only with IMAP servers. > They have no support whatsover for POP3 servers. The Window$ and Well, it looks like I've wasted my time with the download, because my ISP is definitely POP3. Thanks anyway. I guess you can't win them all ;-) from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:29:58 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: I love simplicity On Sat, 31 May 2003 08:47:39 -0400 (EDT), Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course the real point was that Windows makes easy > things difficult... and every once in a while I just have to > rejoice in the fact that I don't live in that frustrating > Windows world. :-) Windows makes things from impossible to possible for the ignoramous, and from simple to difficult for the intelligent person. AFAIK it was never intended to make things easy. Yes, REJOICE! Viva DOS, Viva!!!! from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:57:24 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A-list Re: version 0.b7 On Fri, 30 May 2003 08:40:34 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > "They" is Michael Polak. He is Arachne Labs and he's a great guy > that most of us admire a great deal. He's busy with new projects Not so great if he can't take time to fix the list's UNSUBSCRIBE feature, although I believe he has been requested to do so many times. > and has no time for Arachne anymore. Sad, but true. But he's Yes, unfortunately that seems to be the way it is. The date I have on Arachne 1.70 is 01-22-01, nearly 2-1/2 years ago. AFAIK that was the end of his involvement. > going to release Arachne on a GPL basis with the source code so > that anyone can tinker and make improvements. I think he must have already done that, and Glenn McCorkle has picked it up. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 08:41:40 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: I love simplicity On 31 May 03 at 19:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I didn't have a modem on my machine. I didn't have any >fax software installed, yet I sent a fax within minutes >of deciding to do so. >1) Find the 100K efax software at rpmfind.net (30 seconds), > and download <efax.src.rpm> (2 seconds) > >2) Grab the external 33.6 modem off my wife's machine > and plug it into the other serial port on mine. > (camera is already on the first) (20 seconds) > >3) Build the package (5 seconds) > (rpm --rebuild --target i686 <efax.package.src>) > >4) Install the package (rpm -ivh <efax.package.rpm> > (2 second) > >5) make a symlink from /dev/fax to /dev/modem > (which is already a symlink to /dev/ttyS1 > (5 seconds) I use to do these kind of tasks with bfax for DOS that is installed (supporting Czech fonts!) on all of my DOS machines and works with any of the modems. >7) "fax send 123-456-7890 /home/steve/scaa_directory.txt" > (OOps! Wrong number. Forgot the 1 for long distance) > (30 seconds) > >8) "fax send 1-123-456-7890 /home/steve/scaa_directory.txt" > (1 minute : 20 seconds) a) paste the text to send into a file with the extension .txt (MS-Word for DOS format is ok) - - 2 seconds b) open Norton Commander and press return on the file - - 3 seconds c) go and get some coffee or tea. - - if you have the time to do so > >6) glance at man page > (20 seconds) > d) or spend the rest of your life with learning Linux - - this time necessary can be substantially shortened by reading Steve's contributions to Arachne list >Steve Ackman Thank you, Christof Lange _______________________________________________ Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02 http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:31:31 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: grab mail headers only..... On 29 May 03 at 22:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Reply to Sender: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply to List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I know how to add this little 'feature' to Arachne ;-) > >Anyone interested ??? <g g g> With Arachne running on PC 386 and old modem this could be quite useful. Christof Lange _______________________________________________ Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02 http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:34:04 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A-list PINE was: What are you doing wrong? On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 16:21:22 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2003 03:11:58 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> Yes. Versions 3.91 and 3.96 for DOS are available. The best place to >> start looking for the download packages is at >> "http://www.washington.edu/pine"; > After I searched the site properly I found them and downloaded both. >> Several fellow Arachne list members and myself have used the DOS >> versions of PINE. All of us have reported that the DOS versions >> suffer frequent lockups and crashes due to memory management >> problems. PINE for DOS is usable, but you can expect to experience >> at times the reported problems. > Was this with 3.91 or the larger 3.96? And does LOAD HIGH (LH) help or > not? I have always found that LOADHIGH always works better for me for any kind of DOS software. Sometimes I cannot load everything high. Some things cannot be loaded high. I always load high as much stuff as I possibly can. When I can't load everything high it helps to experiment on what is best to load high. >> The DOS versions of PINE are compatible only with IMAP servers. >> They have no support whatsover for POP3 servers. The Window$ and > Well, it looks like I've wasted my time with the download, because my > ISP is definitely POP3. > Thanks anyway. I guess you can't win them all ;-) You can set up and configure the DOS versions of PINE to do email with any IMAP server where you have an email account. There are many services out there which will offer you the use of an IMAP server. Some of these services are for free. Check one of the web pages at the PINE web site for a listing of many of the IMAP servers available. If your ISP doesn't offer an IMAP server, then you can use an IMAP server provided by some other service, even when you are logged in to your own ISP. As I have mentioned earlier, the older types of IMAP servers work much better with the DOS versions of PINE than the new and modern upgraded ones. Of course anything that works just fine before you fix it cannot possibly be expected to work as well after you fix it. Good luck! Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 09:46:54 -0700 From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: OT: I love simplicity Thanks for all the info & good luck with your move. later, rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 17:11:49 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: OT: I love simplicity On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:14:24 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about saying "amen"....and Steve is a fundamental christian? (btw Grand > Rapids, Michigan is sorta of Vatican) I have no idea of anyone else's religious affiliations or inclinations. I used the phrase "Amen, brother" merely to indicate a hearty assent to the idea previously expressed. Yes there are lots of fundamentalist Christians in Grand Rapids, MI and I do live in Michigan and I did use the phrase "Amen, brother", but there isn't much connection between all that. Let's not be jumping to conclusions. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:02:30 -0700 From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fw: OT: I love simplicity > Let's not be jumping to conclusions. Amen, brother ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:32:19 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: GPL version of Arachne.... On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 14:57:24 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote: > On Fri, 30 May 2003 08:40:34 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: <snip> >> going to release Arachne on a GPL basis with the source code so >> that anyone can tinker and make improvements. > I think he must have already done that, and Glenn McCorkle has > picked it up. Yes, I have picked it up so-to-say. :) The GPL version is now ready for use. I notified Micheal and uploaded the complete package to my web site for him to download. (figured that would be better than sending via email attachment) So it is now back into his hands awaiting the actual 'release to the public'. Unless he would also like me to that as-well. If so.... it will be ready to for everyone to download within just a few minutes of receiving his 'OK'. Michael ??? BTW, I *wish* that Clarence would have had the time to help me on this one. (I really miss his input) But since he has been busy with more pressing matters. Arachne v1.73;GPL is 100% 'my baby'. So any problems, bugs, glitches.... etc... are also 100% my fault and can only be blamed upon me. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:44:51 -0700 From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GPL version of Arachne.... It's all your fault :-) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 18:48:40 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: GPL version of Arachne.... On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 15:44:51 -0700, Rick Orr wrote: > It's all your fault :-) There you go, Rick.... rub it in.... rub it in. <hehehe> ;-) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:06:48 From: Alejandro Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Easy deleting of messages in POP3 servers. If you have POP3 only (no IMAP), a very easy way to delete messages, without Telnet, is going to: http://www.mail2web.com There you can read or delete individual messages in any POP3 server. Free good Sans Serif fonts for MS-DOS at: http://www.limasa.com.ar/novafont.zip Configurable dialing menu for several DOS internet programs at: http://www.limasa.com.ar/dial_ip.zip - ---------------------- Ing. Alejandro Lieber Rosario Argentina lima[at]citynet.net.ar - ---------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 18:03:01 +0900 From: "Kali Mclaughlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: telix & LFS Dear List: Sorry to use more bandwidth, particularly for those who cant unsuscribe, but I have a question about long filename support. I have lately had major disasters with this matter. I use Telix as a wonderful program for establising communication to other platforms and retrieving files. What goes wrong most commonly is LFN. Does anyone have ideas for making telix "see" long filenames? Kali http://www.nimnet.asn.au/~kali ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2137 ******************************
