arachne-digest Monday, June 9 2003 Volume 01 : Number 2145
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:52:15 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne Wish List Once again I plead for two things for Arachne: 1. ability to access secure sites 2. javascript ability. With regards to #1, if Opera (a Norwegian browser) is able to have secure site capability, why can't Arachne? About a year or so ago, an encryption developer was reported as moving to Ireland to publish his encryption program to get around the U.S. export rules. With regards to #2, too many sites use javascript, no matter how distasteful it may be, for Arachne to be without it. Other things may be nice to have, but, IMO, these two are critical! BTW, Opera identifies itself to web sites as IE. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 22:25:47 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:38:42 -0400, Roger Turk wrote: > Glenn, > It appears cache and cache.idx should have gone one step further than it has. > In the cache.idx example that you posted on your site, > "http://www.arachne.cz"; is the page source and is saved in the cache as: > "\arachne\cache\55027588.HTM". > Now, as you go thru cache.idx, everyplace you find, "http://www.navrcholu..."; > in 55027588.HTM, if you replace it with the filename shown in the index, that > image will appear when the page is viewed offline. > If you do a "search and replace", searching for the "http://..."; name and > replacing it with the alias cache name, no LFN's will be involved and the > page would contain all of the graphics and links that it would have online. > I hope that I am explaining this clearly enough. Ahhhh..... 'twould be nice if 'twere that easy. ;-) However, Most web pages use a combination of both "static" and "dynamic" addresses for images. (and for links to other pages) (static) <img src="http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/cacheidx.gif";> (dynamic) <img src="images/cacheidx.gif"> When the dynamic address is contained within a page located at http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ Then the 'completed address' becomes the same as if we had used the static address. The reason for doing this is for 'portability'. The exact same page can be placed at many different sites without editing to change a link to a (now local) file. So..... Doing a 'search and replace' of "http://.."; will not 'cut the mustard'. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:45:58 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage Glenn, I guess that I don't understand. If all a person wants to do is to read a page offline, then it shouldn't make any difference if a dynamic image is changed to static, should it? Roger Turk Glenn McCorkle wrote: . > Ahhhh..... 'twould be nice if 'twere that easy. ;-) . > However, . > Most web pages use a combination of both "static" and "dynamic" . > addresses for images. (and for links to other pages) . > (static) . > <img src="http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/cacheidx.gif";> . > (dynamic) . > <img src="images/cacheidx.gif"> . > When the dynamic address is contained within a page located . > at http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ . > Then the 'completed address' becomes the same as if we had used the . > static address. . > The reason for doing this is for 'portability'. . > The exact same page can be placed at many different . > sites without editing to change a link to a (now local) file. . > So..... . > Doing a 'search and replace' of "http://.."; will not 'cut the mustard'. . > -- . > Glenn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 23:43:27 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:45:58 -0400, Roger Turk wrote: > Glenn, > I guess that I don't understand. If all a person wants to do is to read a > page offline, then it shouldn't make any difference if a dynamic image is > changed to static, should it? > Roger Turk My point is simply that when the link is 'dynamic' it does not contain "http://...."; Therefore, searching for "http://"; will not find it.... Therefore it will not get replaced. The link will remain as <img src="images/small/smallphoto-ofmyhouse-01.gif"> And will not be replaced by our required link to the local copy of the image <img src="file://spmh-01.gif"> > Glenn McCorkle wrote: > .. > Ahhhh..... 'twould be nice if 'twere that easy. ;-) > .. > However, > .. > Most web pages use a combination of both "static" and "dynamic" > .. > addresses for images. (and for links to other pages) > .. > (static) > .. > <img src="http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/cacheidx.gif";> > .. > (dynamic) > .. > <img src="images/cacheidx.gif"> > .. > When the dynamic address is contained within a page located > .. > at http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ > .. > Then the 'completed address' becomes the same as if we had used the > .. > static address. > .. > The reason for doing this is for 'portability'. > .. > The exact same page can be placed at many different > .. > sites without editing to change a link to a (now local) file. > .. > So..... > .. > Doing a 'search and replace' of "http://.."; will not 'cut the mustard'. > .. > -- > .. > Glenn - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:49:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage Glenn, Why not parse for the elements contained within the brackets? Search for the leading bracket ... - - if followed by a legal element (e.g., "<img src"), then ... - - replace everything within the quotes (i.e., the folder and file name) with the Arachne assigned name - - the result would be an acceptable Arachne reference valid for offline use Bob ~ On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 23:43:27 -0400 "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:45:58 -0400, Roger Turk wrote: > > > Glenn, > > > I guess that I don't understand. If all a person wants to do is > to read a > > page offline, then it shouldn't make any difference if a dynamic > image is > > changed to static, should it? > > > Roger Turk > > My point is simply that when the link is 'dynamic' it does > not contain "http://...."; > > Therefore, searching for "http://"; will not find it.... > Therefore it will not get replaced. > > The link will remain as > <img src="images/small/smallphoto-ofmyhouse-01.gif"> > > And will not be replaced by our required link to the local copy of > the image <img src="file://spmh-01.gif"> > > > Glenn McCorkle wrote: > > > .. > Ahhhh..... 'twould be nice if 'twere that easy. ;-) > > > .. > However, > > > .. > Most web pages use a combination of both "static" and > "dynamic" > > .. > addresses for images. (and for links to other pages) > > > .. > (static) > > .. > <img > src="http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/cacheidx.gif";> > > > .. > (dynamic) > > .. > <img src="images/cacheidx.gif"> > > > .. > When the dynamic address is contained within a page located > > .. > at http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ > > > .. > Then the 'completed address' becomes the same as if we had > used the > > .. > static address. > > > .. > The reason for doing this is for 'portability'. > > > .. > The exact same page can be placed at many different > > .. > sites without editing to change a link to a (now local) > file. > > > .. > So..... > > .. > Doing a 'search and replace' of "http://.."; will not 'cut the > mustard'. > > > .. > -- > > .. > Glenn > > -- > Glenn > http://arachne.cz/ > http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ > http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ > http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 08:01:03 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Results of spam filter test Per my request I received sixteen fake spams at my alternate email address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from various folks on the Arachne List. All of the fake spams were messages having the same subject heading as many well known real spams. The message content contained words and phrases and sometimes even entire paragraphs typically seen in the real spams. I replied by private email to each and every one of you who sent them to acknowledge my receipt of the fake spams. One of my replies I sent to Neil Parks. His ISP bounced my reply right back to me. His ISP treated my reply as though it were a spam. If any of you besides Neil Parks sent to me a fake spam for which you did not receive a private acknowledgement from me, please let me know about it by private email. Also you may brag to the list that you were successful in sending a fake spam to me that was treated by the filters as though it were a real spam. BTW, during the testing period I received a real spam having the subject heading of "A New SECRET Strategy for Generating Unlimited Web Traffic. LZPTCSOIKL". Despite the most alarming subject, even that one seeped right through the spam filters. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of The Arachne Browser: http://browser.arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:54:04 +0100 From: Mel Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne Wish List On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 21:52:15 -0400, Roger Turk wrote: >Once again I plead for two things for Arachne: > >1. ability to access secure sites > >2. javascript ability. > >With regards to #1, if Opera (a Norwegian browser) is able to have >secure >site capability, why can't Arachne? Hi Roger and Gangue, Opera is an excellent vehicle for those with Win machines who don't want to clutter up drives with M$ bloat. It does most (not quite all) that IE and netscrape do in a reasonable size package and certainly works well enough with W95 and ISTR also with 3.1. For e-mail I find Pocomail an excellent e-mailer, again in a reasonable size package, works ok without registration, no disabled features, just nag screens, but I liked it enough to register, just as I did with Arachne. Although I have machines with around 5G plus of HDD, I cannot rid myself of the need to purge the drive of un-wanted stuff and keep only small versions of the programs I use so as to leave as much free space as possible. Comes from years of using DOS on HDD's of around 450Mgs size I suppose! [GRIN :>) ] Regards mel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:44:15 +0100 From: Mel Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: rach now on tap! On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 19:42:06 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >>Where can I get a copy of the "latest" then? > >As I said above..... ;-) > >v1.71;UE01 is the 'latest release'.... >http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ > >>Been off the list for a while as you know! > >Welcome back..... We have missed you. > Hi again Glenn, Thanks for the welcome back. Have d/l'ed the "update" version and its in the machine ok, need to configure to my old settings and put my "key" in place, but here's a strange thing! (Maybe you know of this, it is a whiley since I've been on the list) The ver 1.70 I loaded in originally is recognised by the arachne home pages as the "latest" version in the wee bit top left corner where Michael put the IE/Netscrap box a couple of years back. B U T! your newer ver 1.71 user one comes up with a "You are using an old version of Arachne" message and advising a download of the latest version from the website. This must be some kind of "if" and "then" statement in the page that only recognises the current version (1.70 or thereabouts) and assumes all others are older even with a higher number. Anyway, 1.71 looks ok. will play a while with it. I find it useful for website design to use 'rach to test pages for older browsers. Regards Mel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:38:20 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Results of spam filter test I sent four or five fake spams to Sam Heywood and he got them all. Maybe the filtering is more complex and consideres subject, text and source in various weighted combinations. On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 08:01:03 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > Per my request I received sixteen fake spams at my alternate email > address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" from various folks on the Arachne > List. All of the fake spams were messages having the same subject > heading as many well known real spams. The message content > contained words and phrases and sometimes even entire paragraphs > typically seen in the real spams. I replied by private email to each > and every one of you who sent them to acknowledge my receipt of the > fake spams. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:46:01 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: rach now on tap! On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:44:15 +0100, Mel Evans wrote: > (Maybe you know of this, it is a whiley since I've been on the list) > The ver 1.70 I loaded in originally is recognised by the arachne home > pages as the "latest" version in the wee bit top left corner where > Michael put the IE/Netscrap box a couple of years back. B U T! your > newer ver 1.71 user one comes up with a "You are using an old version > of Arachne" message and advising a download of the latest version > from the website. This must be some kind of "if" and "then" statement > in the page that only recognises the current version (1.70 or > thereabouts) and assumes all others are older even with a higher > number. Anyway, 1.71 looks ok. will play a while with it. I find it > useful for website design to use 'rach to test pages for older > browsers. As I advised via private email the Arachne website is no longer up to date regarding Arachne. It recongnizes 1.70r3 as the latest version. Arachne 1.71ue (user edition) was put together without Michal Polak (but with his permission). There are some things he doesn't like about it appearance wise and he hasn't made it an "official version". Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:56:49 -0500 From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133 On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:36:19 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > Instead of hitting the 'forward arrows button' to move to the next > message in your inbox. > Why not try hitting 'Archive' instead. Most of the messages that lurk in my inbox get tossed out after a week or two. Some I'm thinking about, some I hope to reply to, some have interest for awhile only. If I archive them I will tend to forget all about them and never answer them or throw them out. Once I put them in the archive they will be out of sight and out of mind. If they stay in the inbox eventually I'll have to do something about them because Arachne doesn't like a clogged inbox and gets so slow that I am forced to clean house a little. Putting something in an "archive" for me means that I have decided to save it. Sam Ewalt Croswell, Michigan, USA - -- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 14:01:21 -0400 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage Bob Dohse wrote: . > Glenn, . > Why not parse for the elements contained within the brackets? . > Search for the leading bracket ... . > - if followed by a legal element (e.g., "<img src"), then ... . > - replace everything within the quotes (i.e., the folder and file name) . > with the Arachne assigned name . > - the result would be an acceptable Arachne reference valid for offline . > use . > Bob ~ Bob, There is no need to parse the page source as the pairings are all included in CACHE.IDX. I finally got a text version of CACHE.IDX by using the -c option of WWWMAN to create CACHEIDX.HTM and then using HTMSTRIP to get a pure text version so that I would not have to copy full source page reference paths into an e-mail message. The CACHE.IDX is that of my home page, MY.YAHOO. The first few lines of CACHE.IDX are: (My comments will be all upper case for distinction.) Cache index key...">Index of Arachne WWW cache - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -- Cache index filename: cache\cache.idx - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - -- http://my.yahoo.com/ <--THIS PAGE SOURCE IS CACHED AS------- | V ===================== Sun Jun 08 08:29:03 2003 | 40630 bytes | text/html | P:\CACHE\55075314.HTM DO A SEARCH IN CACHED PAGE SOURCE FOR- | V ============================================== http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/my/top7.gif AND REPLACE IT WITH----------------------------------- | V ==================== Sun Jun 08 08:29:07 2003 | 1965 bytes | image/gif | P:\CACHE\55075351.GIF DO ANOTHER SEARCH IN CACHED PAGE SOURCE FOR-- | http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/spacer.gif <- AND REPLACE IT WITH---------------------------------- | V ==================== Sun Jun 08 08:29:07 2003 | 43 bytes | image/gif | P:\CACHE\55075362.GIF ETC., ETC., ETC. Hope this is much clearer. It doesn't make any difference if the searched for item begins with "http://...."; or not. This way the page can be read offline with the images shown. It may even be prudent to replace the cached page source name (55075314.HTM) with an 8.3 filename so that it would be relevant for offline reading, e.g., for this example, replace cached page source name, 55075314.HTM, with myyahoo1.htm Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:34:58 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 23:49:14 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Glenn, > Why not parse for the elements contained within the brackets? > Search for the leading bracket ... > - if followed by a legal element (e.g., "<img src"), then ... > - replace everything within the quotes (i.e., the folder and file name) > with the Arachne assigned name > - the result would be an acceptable Arachne reference valid for offline > use I'm sorry that I did not explain myself more clearly to begin with. That is *exactly* what is being done already with the files in our cache directory and the cache-index file (cache.idx) - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:44:50 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: rach now on tap! On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:44:15 +0100, Mel Evans wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 19:42:06 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >>> Where can I get a copy of the "latest" then? >> As I said above..... ;-) >> v1.71;UE01 is the 'latest release'.... >> http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ >>> Been off the list for a while as you know! >> Welcome back..... We have missed you. > Hi again Glenn, > Thanks for the welcome back. Have d/l'ed the "update" version and its > in the machine ok, need to configure to my old settings and put my > "key" in place, but here's a strange thing! > (Maybe you know of this, it is a whiley since I've been on the list) > The ver 1.70 I loaded in originally is recognised by the arachne home > pages as the "latest" version in the wee bit top left corner where > Michael put the IE/Netscrap box a couple of years back. B U T! your > newer ver 1.71 user one comes up with a "You are using an old version > of Arachne" message and advising a download of the latest version > from the website. This must be some kind of "if" and "then" statement > in the page that only recognises the current version (1.70 or > thereabouts) and assumes all others are older even with a higher > number. Anyway, 1.71 looks ok. will play a while with it. I find it > useful for website design to use 'rach to test pages for older > browsers. If all you D/Led was the "update file". You don't have evereything that you will need to complete the entire v1.71;UE01 "package". All that is included in that 'update' are the files that were changed between my first release of v1.71 and the 'current release'. Here's the list of *everything* that has changed between v1.70 and the up-coming v1.73;GPL http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ar173gpl-changed_file_list.txt Most of those same files were also changed going from 1.70 to 1.71 - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:58:49 -0400 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133 On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 12:56:49 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:36:19 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Instead of hitting the 'forward arrows button' to move to the next >> message in your inbox. >> Why not try hitting 'Archive' instead. > Most of the messages that lurk in my inbox get tossed out after > a week or two. Some I'm thinking about, some I hope to reply to, > some have interest for awhile only. > If I archive them I will tend to forget all about them and never > answer them or throw them out. Once I put them in the archive they > will be out of sight and out of mind. If they stay in the inbox > eventually I'll have to do something about them because Arachne > doesn't like a clogged inbox and gets so slow that I am forced > to clean house a little. > Putting something in an "archive" for me means that I have > decided to save it. So..... If I change the way the inbox works. And it 'jumps' to the first new message. Will not those old messages now be 'out of sight, out of mind' ?? <g g g> M your inbox. - -- Glenn http://arachne.cz/ http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/ http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:19:35 -0700 From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133 > old messages now be 'out of sight, out of mind hee, hee. I gots several old/small HDDs with Rachne mail from '97 orso lurkin on the shelf :-) prob stuf burned on CD's 2. later, rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:22:35 -0700 From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Results of spam filter test Hey Sam, I sent my sp*m, if you sent me a reply it got caught in my filter[s] :-) later, rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:50:24 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "DIAL-A-PRANK", or, "What will the spammers think of next?" On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 13:05:33 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > =====DIAL-A-PRANK===== Why not? The stupidity of the general public and what they'll waste money on never ceases to amaze me! from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:52:09 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A-list OLD button, was Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133 On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 17:29:25 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> Amazing how that "Send mail NOW" button seems to kick the old thinking >> machine into gear *after* it is pressed <G> > Ah Ha... you have also noticed that. ;-) All too often, Glenn, all too often... Now whenever i can I read and answer the mail off line. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:04:28 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Saving a web page On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 20:54:45 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 01:08:33 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote: >> Hi List... >> Does anuone know how to save a web page? >> I know that the bits ans pieces could be found in the cache... but the >> names are changed and so the images do not fit anymore into the HTML. >> Is there a possibility to store a page, including images, without >> converting back the funny new names in the cache into the ones originaly >> used in the pages HTML? > Since most of the images we encounter on the web are named in LFN format. > It will be "next to imposible" to do it in DOS. > That is why Arachne must save the files into the cache in 8.3 format. > 8 numerical digits and a 3 character file extension. > nnnnnnnn.HTM was This-Is-My-House-And-Welcome-To-It.html > nnnnnnnn.JPG was this_Is_a_photo_of_my_house.JPEG > nnnnnnnn.MPG was Mpeg-Movie_file_of_my-wife-walking-into-our-house.Mpeg But I think Bastiaan's problem is one I've run into when trying to save a HTML page. Pressing F2 will save the basic page but NOT any graphics that are linked into it. The graphics have to be snatched from the cache, and due to the numbering system used in the cache it is not easy to loacte them. Usually on a freshly loaded page the associated graphics will be the most recent ones in the cache, but not always. One solution, which may not be the best but it works, is to press F8 to clear the cache then reload the page. Then whatever is in the cache must be the graphics associated with the page in question. from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:20:59 +0930 From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: A-list Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133 On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 08:46:38 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote: > Here's another idea for you. How about making the index bigger? I > mean make it show more emails than currently. Pine can show about > thirty emails in the index--one on a line with both the sender and That would be handy. > the subject listed. Plus there's a one letter marker for the status > of the email. "R" already read. "U" unread. "D" marked for deletion. > Then when you exit at the end of your session, Pine asks if it > should go ahead and delete (expunge) those marked messsages. Now THAT would be excellent! > That ought to keep you busy for a weekend. Or two... from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia "Queen City of the South" 34:55S 138:36E http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm - -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #2145 ******************************
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