arachne-digest         Tuesday, June 10 2003         Volume 01 : Number 2146




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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:46:56 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:31:56 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

> Age has nothing to do with relevance.

Often it does. When someone is discussing something topical, or inviting
you out somewhere, that kind of message very quickly becomes irrelevant.
So does a message discussing a problem with Arachne that someone else
has solved. In my experience there are very few messages that will stay
rlevant indefinitely.

> But that's not what I do. So I want my software to serve me by
> behaving the way I want it to.

And IMO that's the way ALL software should work!

> Sorry you have a problem with people being different and wanting to

Nope. Not a problem. I just like discussing these things <G>

And I like friends that I can disagree with and who can disagree with me
without destroying the friendship ;-))))

- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:41:20 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: version 0.b7

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 08:14:41 -0500, Sam Ewalt wrote:

> Yeah, I guess that's right. "Not having time" is just an excuse.

I must agree.

>> P.S.  *I* don't know what a vacation is, nor what to do on a "vacation."  The
>> last one that I remember taking was in the summer of 1940 or 1941, when I was
>> 6 or 7 years old.

> Gee, Roger, that's bad. You mean you've been working steadily without
> any time off for at least the last sixty-two years? You didn't even get
> school holidays when you were eight? You're overdue for a little
> rest and relaxation, don't you think?

Well he did say that last one he remembers. Let's see, by my calculation
he nust be nearly 70 years old, and.... damn, now I've forgotten what
point I was trying to make <G>
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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:56:11 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Wed, 04 Jun 2003 18:34:17 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> In fact, I am quite glad that no two people seem want the
> same things out of Arachne.

Well, it sure keeps you off the streets, doesn't it <BEG>

> Now.. if all of that is just too much trouble.
> 1) cd \arachne<enter>
> 2) ren *.cnm *.cno<enter>
> Done <g g g>

Should 1) be "cd \arachne\mail<enter>" ? ;-)


from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
  "Queen City of the South"  34:55S  138:36E
http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm


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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:31:55 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: GPL version of Arachne....

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:51:11 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Truly nice !  veryuseful to show show  unbelievers that SKINS can be used
> without windoze    :) unless when it isn't necessary.

I have seen SKINS referred to, mainly in Glenn's default startup screen
for Arachne. Can anyone briefly tell me what it/they is/are?

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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 21:52:49 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:19:35 -0700, Rick Orr wrote:

>> old messages now be 'out of sight, out of mind

> hee, hee. I gots several old/small HDDs with Rachne mail from '97 orso
> lurkin on the shelf :-)

> prob stuf burned on CD's 2.

Pardon my language, but......

S**t !!! That ain't nuttin' <g g g>
http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/a-digest.txt

And yes,
They *are* backed-up on *both* CD *and* 100mb ZipDisk. ;-)

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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 21:59:17 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Saving a web page

On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:04:28 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

<snip>

> But I think Bastiaan's problem is one I've run into when trying to save
> a HTML page. Pressing F2 will save the basic page but NOT any graphics
> that are linked into it.

> The graphics have to be snatched from the
> cache, and due to the numbering system used in the cache it is not easy
> to loacte them.

OK, I'm going to try ONE MORE TIME. ;-)

Press "U" on the keyboard.

Link to the "Cache Index" button.

There they are, right there in front of you with every original
filename/loaction on the web. Along with the corresponding name in the
cache directory.

http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/images/cacheidx.gif


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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:04:05 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: GPL version of Arachne....

On Mon, 09 Jun 2003 09:31:55 +0930, Greg Mayman wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:51:11 -0300, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Truly nice !  veryuseful to show show  unbelievers that SKINS can be used
>> without windoze    :) unless when it isn't necessary.

> I have seen SKINS referred to, mainly in Glenn's default startup screen
> for Arachne. Can anyone briefly tell me what it/they is/are?

Did you try linking to the " SKN 'skins' " button and then linking to
one of my 'default' .SKN files ????

Try it, you'll see. ;-)

But only if you have  CSS enabled.


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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 19:18:03 -0700
From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

> On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:19:35 -0700, Rick Orr wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>> old messages now be 'out of sight, out of mind
> 
> 
>>> hee, hee. I gots several old/small HDDs with Rachne mail from '97 orso
>>> lurkin on the shelf 
> 
> 
>>> prob stuf burned on CD's 2.
> 
> 
> Pardon my language, but......
> 
> S**t !!! That ain't nuttin' <g g g>
> http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/a-digest.txt
> 
> And yes,
> They *are* backed-up on *both* CD *and* 100mb ZipDisk. 

Thanks to the 'net my drives are large & hard, I have the tapes to prove it.

        later,
                Rick:-)

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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 22:47:20 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 19:18:03 -0700, Rick Orr wrote:

>> On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:19:35 -0700, Rick Orr wrote:

>>>>>> old messages now be 'out of sight, out of mind

>>>> hee, hee. I gots several old/small HDDs with Rachne mail from '97 orso
>>>> lurkin on the shelf

>>>> prob stuf burned on CD's 2.

>> Pardon my language, but......

>> S**t !!! That ain't nuttin' <g g g>
>> http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/a-digest.txt

>> And yes,
>> They *are* backed-up on *both* CD *and* 100mb ZipDisk.

> Thanks to the 'net my drives are large & hard, I have the tapes to prove it.

hehe, Cute ;-)

BTW,
With a little more 'digging' on my other HDD partitions
via the 'find' utility.

- --- find-naf.bat ---
find /f /s "naf.cz" c:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" d:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" e:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" f:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" g:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" h:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" i:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" j:\*.cnm
find /f /s "naf.cz" k:\*.cnm
_____________________________
��!
find-naf.bat found all of these. ;-)

http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/old-mail.txt

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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 22:52:19 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A-list Re: version 0.b7

Greg Mayman wrote:

. > > Gee, Roger, that's bad. You mean you've been working steadily without
. > > any time off for at least the last sixty-two years? You didn't even get
. > > school holidays when you were eight? You're overdue for a little
. > > rest and relaxation, don't you think?

. > Well he did say that last one he remembers. Let's see, by my calculation
. > he nust be nearly 70 years old, and.... damn, now I've forgotten what
. > point I was trying to make <G>

They say that memory is the first to go --- or is it the last?  I can't 
remember.

I see you use the same arithmetic in Oz as we do in the top half.  Will have 
70 years of experience in 7 months.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:28:14 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: GPL version of Arachne....

On Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:20:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Glenn,

> I haven't seen a reply to this. Perhaps the original got lost in the
> inbox.

> I'm really curious as to whether it might be possible to call hotkeys
> from a separate file, which can be user defined. Did I miss something, or
> are some of these hardwired in CORE? If not, how can I make changes to
> any or all hotkeys? Also, how would I change the called routine
> (currently the Arachne home page) of the xChaos graphic in the skin?

I'm sorry to inform you that they are *all* 'hard coded' into core.exe

It would require a complete re-write of every section of the code which
calls a 'hotkey'.


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Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 20:30:36 -0700
From: Rick Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

> With a little more 'digging' on my other HDD partitions
> via the 'find' utility.
> 
> --- find-naf.bat ---
> find /f /s "naf.cz" c:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" d:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" e:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" f:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" g:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" h:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" i:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" j:\*.cnm
> find /f /s "naf.cz" k:\*.cnm

all zipped up & ready to be expatiated on a RAM drive.

        rick:-)

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Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:21:25 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage

On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 19:29:41 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> Cache.idx can only be 'decoded' (so to speak), using the latest version
> of wwwman.exe

> Did you try viewing it with these key-strokes ?

> "U" and then link to "Cache Index".

> There you are. ;-)

No I am not ;-(( INCOMPATIBLE VERSION

Perhaps this has something to do with the changes we made to wwwman ?
We changed it abt 6 month ago for the Win95 problem...

Your screen shots look promissing Glenn.

Regards, Bastiaan


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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 08:00:13 -0500
From: "Sam Ewalt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2133

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 16:58:49 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:


> So.....
> If I change the way the inbox works.
> And it 'jumps' to the first new message.

> Will not those old messages now be 'out of sight, out of mind' ?? <g g g>
> M your inbox.

They will at least be there in the index and I can scroll up and
take a peak to see what's there without going somewhere else to look for
them. If they are in another file altogether then they are someplace
where they will be forgotten. Left in the index, I'll be forced to do
something with them eventually.






Sam Ewalt
Croswell, Michigan, USA
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Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 21:13:02 +0100
From: "Johan Zimbili" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Urgent contact with you

9th May 2003

                                 Urgent Business Partner 

May I through this medium seek for your co-operation and assistance in a business 
transaction that requires high confidentiality. I am Mr. Johan Zimbili, a native of 
Cape Town in South Africa and I work in the South African Department of Minerals & 
Energy. First and foremost, I apologize for using this medium to reach you for a 
transaction/business of this magnitude, but this is due to the prompt access this 
medium affords. I obtained your contact through trade and email listings over here at 
the department of trade, do not be alarmed over this as this form of contact is part 
of the regular business ethics over here. 

I have the mandate of two of my senior colleagues to search discreetly and diligently 
for a partner that could assist us concerning a business matter which will be of 
mutual benefit to all. We do require your assistance in the transfer of 
US$15,5M(Fifteen Million, Five Hundred Thousand USD) abroad. 

The amount US$15,5M represents an over-invoiced contract amount that was executed for 
my Ministry by a mining company, which has since gone into liquidation. Although the 
actual contract amount was paid to the company, the over-invoiced amount of US$15,5M 
has since been lying in the Ministry�s escrow account at the Reserve Bank of South 
Africa pending proper proof of claim. We are privy to this classified information by 
virtue of our position in the ministry. We have successfully secured payment approval 
for it.

More so, we are handicapped in the very circumstances, as the South African Civil 
Service "Code of Conduct" does not allow us to operate offshore accounts hence your 
importance in this whole transaction. 

Please note your area of specialization is not a hindrance to the successful execution 
of this transaction. Endeavour to contact me immediately through my private mail: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to confirm whether or not you are interested in this transaction, it 
will enable me to scout for another possible partner to carry out this transaction 
with, if you happen not to be. 

Lastly, I want to assure you that my partners and myself are in a position to make the 
payment of this claim possible, provided you can give us very strong assurance and 
guarantee that our share will be secured. This transaction has been given considerable 
thought, so as to safeguard the interests of those involved with the inclusion of your 
role. I implore you to keep this confidential.

Once again remember that time is of the essence in this transaction. 

I await in anticipation of your fullest cooperation. 

Yours Faithfully, 

Johan Zimbili
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2003 21:52:09 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [A-list] Saving a webpage

On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:21:25 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

> On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 19:29:41 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> Cache.idx can only be 'decoded' (so to speak), using the latest version
>> of wwwman.exe

>> Did you try viewing it with these key-strokes ?

>> "U" and then link to "Cache Index".

>> There you are. ;-)

> No I am not ;-(( INCOMPATIBLE VERSION

> Perhaps this has something to do with the changes we made to wwwman ?
> We changed it abt 6 month ago for the Win95 problem...

> Your screen shots look promissing Glenn.

You are still using  V1.61

That's why you got 'incompatible version'

I fixed the problem with the cache index loooonnnnggg ago. ;-)
(even before tackling the M$Dos v7 incompatibility problem)

http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/


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