arachne-digest        Saturday, June 21 2003        Volume 01 : Number 2157




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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:34:11 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rejecting zero address

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:35:14 +0200, Michal H. Tyc wrote:

> Hello all,

> My Arachne is currently set up for DHCP LAN connection.
> From time to time, I can see "Rejecting zero address" message
> in the status line and Arachne seems to hang.
> I have never seen this when I worked with fixed IP address on LAN.

> Anyone knows what does this message mean?
> Is there something wrong with the DHCP server?

Can you recall any details about what was being accessed
(attempting to be accessed), when this happened?

Any particular URLs ?s


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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:50:12 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2154

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:23:02 -0800, Ray Andrews wrote:

> Hi All,

>> from Glenn McCorkle:

>>> I disagree.
>>> IMHO,
>>> Arachne is still "Michael's baby".
>>> It's not GPL until *HE* says it's GPL.
>>> I *will* wait (no matter how long it takes),
>>> for Michael to say "OK, release it".

> I understand and share the frustrations some of us are having with the time
> it's taking for the GPL release.  I'm itching to get my paws on the
> Arachne sources (as Glenn well knows), but I still think Mr. McC is doing the
> right thing by waiting--like it or not, folks, Arachne still belongs to
> Michael, and it wouldn't be right to release it until he says so, tempting
> though it might be to jump the gun.

> Ray Andrews,
> Vancouver, Canada  (Please note new email address is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")

Yes, I 100% agree with this statement...
Besides: Arachne is good and FREE for non commercial use.
And why not register? It is Michaels baby and registration will not cost
you an arm and a leg.
So, let's wait and hope Michael will regain interest in HIS Arachne
project and in the mailing list ;-(

CU, Bastiaan


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:50:15 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [A-list] PCMCIA DOS driver found :-(

Hi List,
         I finaly found a DOS driver for the cardreader (memory stick)
in the PCMCIA-slot... carddrv.exe is in win95\systems.

Has to be installed in config.sys

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\carddrv.exe /slot=1 (advice in Win95)
  "         "       "       "        /part=1 (advice in DOS)

But:
"No card services found. Int 1Ah did not succeed or wrong code. Card
services not installed."

Any suggestions?
In win95 the cardreader is OK = E:\
In DOS the cardreader is not installed

Regards, Bastiaan


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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:30:51 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [A-list] PCMCIA DOS driver found :-(

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:50:15 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

> Hi List,
>     I finaly found a DOS driver for the cardreader (memory stick)
> in the PCMCIA-slot... carddrv.exe is in win95\systems.

> Has to be installed in config.sys
Bin win95\systems.
> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\carddrv.exe /slot=1 (advice in Win95)
> "         "       "       "        /part=1 (advice in DOS)

> But:
> "No card services found. Int 1Ah did not succeed or wrong code. Card
> services not installed."

> Any suggestions?
> In win95 the cardreader is OK = E:\
> In DOS the cardreader is not installed

You left yourself 'wide open' for this one, so don't complain. ;-)

deltree c:\windows



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Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:34:43 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #2154

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:50:12 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:23:02 -0800, Ray Andrews wrote:

>> Hi All,

>>> from Glenn McCorkle:

>>>> I disagree.
>>>> IMHO,
>>>> Arachne is still "Michael's baby".
>>>> It's not GPL until *HE* says it's GPL.
>>>> I *will* wait (no matter how long it takes),
>>>> for Michael to say "OK, release it".

>> I understand and share the frustrations some of us are having with the time
>> it's taking for the GPL release.  I'm itching to get my paws on the
>> Arachne sources (as Glenn well knows), but I still think Mr. McC is doing the
>> right thing by waiting--like it or not, folks, Arachne still belongs to
>> Michael, and it wouldn't be right to release it until he says so, tempting
>> though it might be to jump the gun.

>> Ray Andrews,
>> Vancouver, Canada  (Please note new email address is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]")

> Yes, I 100% agree with this statement...
> Besides: Arachne is good and FREE for non commercial use.
> And why not register? It is Michaels baby and registration will not cost
> you an arm and a leg.
> So, let's wait and hope Michael will regain interest in HIS Arachne
> project and in the mailing list ;-(

IMO,

Register... don't register.

It's up to you.

Just please use the darned thing. Would ya' ? ;-)

BTW,
Please always remember, never forget......
The cure for ALL of your 'windows woes' is deltree c:\windows


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:21:32 +0200
From: "Michal H. Tyc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rejecting zero address

Hello Glenn,

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:34:11 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> Can you recall any details about what was being accessed
> (attempting to be accessed), when this happened?

> Any particular URLs ?

As it happened very irregularly (after "killing" and re-starting
Arachne everything went ok), I didn't write down the URLs.
But I seem too remember that I got "Rejecting zero address"
even after processing local DGIs, like mail folders.

By the way, I have one more technical question (related to DGIs,
not to the "zero address"): I noticed that DOS commands from DGI
definitions in MIME.CFG are converted to lowercase when they are
written to $ROURA$.BAT for execution. What is the reason?

Michal

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:07:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [none]

Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:03:25 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AT HDD upgrade (:

Hi Andy,

I believe that it is the BIOS that determines the maximum size HD you can 
have, not the OS.  The OS will limit the maximum size of a partition.

If you have a Phoenix BIOS, BIOS flash upgrades can be obtained from Micro 
Firmware (www.firmware.com).  Make sure that you copy down the complete 
information on the Phoenix BIOS before you contact them.  (The information 
can be seen on the boot-up screen.  You may have to do multiple boots to copy 
down all the information.)

Disk Manager by OnTrack is a software method of providing for large HD's 
(larger than 504 MB).  From what I understand, it manipulates information on 
the HD to make the computer think that everything is on a HD less than 504 MB.

I believe that most HD's come with similar programs.  I know that Western 
Digital HD's do.

A word of caution about software that makes HD's think that they are smaller 
than 504 MB:  If you want to replace the HD with another, you need to remove 
the program or your HD will not be accessible (I know!).

I have a Promise Drive Max card in this computer that modifies the BIOS on 
boot-up so that it is capable of using 125 GB HD's.  Unfortunately, Promise 
no longer makes this card, which is a same --- it cost less than $20.  
Although the BIOS is now capable of a 125 GB HD, M$-DOS 6.22 limits the 
useful logical drive size to 2 GB.  I have 2 drives in this computer, one a 
800 MB drive and the second a 30 GB drive.  The second has 3 logical drives 
on it, one approximately 1.8 GB and I can't remember what sizes the other two 
are.

Assuming that your 386 is IDE/EIDE capable, or that you have a IDE/EIDE 
controller card, you should be able to install a second HD in your computer 
as a slave drive.  Once that is formatted and partitioned, you can copy your 
files from the first HD to the new one.   First of all, make sure that you 
can copy the uncompressed files from the old HD, not the files in compressed 
form that DriveSpace uses.  You don't have to have multiple partitions, but 
you *do* need one primary active partition.

*I believe this old machine is IDE capable or has an IDE controller card
as a 4x CD-ROM is installed as D:(does not a CD-ROM require an IDE
capabilty/controller card/cable?) and the 340 MB HDD was itself an upgrade


HTH

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Andy wrote:

. > Hi all,

. >  I have a Very old computer...

. >  it is an AT-clone with a 386 DX 40mhz cpu

. >  it used to run Win3.11 before I deltree'd Win3.11 out of frustration

. >  yet it still has all it's Win3.11 software that I hope to use again when
. > I re-install Win3.11

. >  now my OS om it is Caldera DR-DOS 7.03

. >  I have a number of new DOS apps that take up the room Windows used to
. > take

. >  my 340 MB drive is packed and I am also using DriveSpace

. >  I need a new HDD

. >  where do I go from here?

. >  what is your recommendation for a new HDD that will fit my old AT case
. > and BIOS(which has the option of a user defined drive(as was the 340 MB))
. >         ((in my BIOS user defined opt. it asks for cylinder, head, etc.
. > numbers)) ???

. >  what size and model should i be looking for?

. >  and where would I purchase/obtain it?

 

. > if I got a larger HDD installed, would i need to partition it?

. >  I've heard MS-DOS 6.22 needs a smaller or equal to 2 GB partition

. >  yet Caldera DR-DOS 7.03 is unlimited? what about Win3.11?

. >  and if I did obtain a new larger HDD how would I transfer the data from
. > my current 340 MB HDD??

. >  I do have a parallel port iomega 100 MB zip drive yet how do I do a
. > *DOS* back-up of my 340 MB HDD then restore to a new HDD using it? is it
. > some DOS DISKCOPY command? will this allow me to smoothly back-up my
. > current 340 MB HDD? with prompts when each zip disk gets full?

. >  please remember I only have DOS(Caldera DR-DOS 7.03) currently on this
. > machine... right now it is not possible to re-install Win3.11 because
. > my/the HDD is so full, so are there *DOS* back-up programs available and
. > if so where would i obtain them or would some sort of DOS DISKCOPY command
. > in conjunction with my zip drive be sufficient?? 


. > thanks in advance for any help rendered,

. > andy

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:17:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AT HDD upgrade

>From the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list:

Date:    Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:03:20 -0400
From:    Charles Angelich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AT HDD upgrade (:


Hello Andy -

At 10:59 PM 6/16/2003 -0400, you wrote:


>  I have a Very old computer...
>
>  it is an AT-clone with a 386 DX 40mhz cpu
>
>  it used to run Win3.11 before I deltree'd Win3.11 out of frustration

What was the problem that caused all this frustration?

it became a corrupt copy (specifically/finally, it would not let me access
the Control Panel properly) 

>  yet it still has all it's Win3.11 software that I hope to use again when
>I re-install Win3.11
>
>  now my OS om it is Caldera DR-DOS 7.03

W31 is faster using DRDOS, should work well.

>  I have a number of new DOS apps that take up the room Windows used to
>take
>
>  my 340 MB drive is packed and I am also using DriveSpace

In the future I would recommend NOT using DriveSpace.

>  I need a new HDD
>
>  where do I go from here?

You didn't say what your 'budget' for this is 

I'm not sure yet what I can't/can afford regarding this(I might take it to
one of the local computer shops yet I'm not sure how willing or able they
would be to attempt this upgrade of a machine this old (: )

nor what type of controller
you have.
A machine this old could have MFM, ESDI, or RLL as a controller.

how would i find out "what type of controller I have"?? (it is an American
Megatrends 386 DX AT-clone circa '90-'91)

>  what is your recommendation for a new HDD that will fit my old AT case
>and BIOS(which has the option of a user defined drive(as was the 340 MB))
>         ((in my BIOS user defined opt. it asks for cylinder, head, etc.
>numbers)) ???

If you take R.Wittig's advice and do some dumpster diving I would suggest
using the hard drive _and_ controller from a newer machine so that you can
use IDE drives.  Problem there is finding an ISA controller for IDE.

what is a "controller"? is it attached or plugged into the drive? or is it
attached or plugged into the motherboard? 

*as i read in Roger Turk's message I now know what a controller is and I
believe I *do* already have an ISA controller for IDE as I have a 4x
CD-ROM installed as D:\(does not a CD-ROM require IDE capability/cable?)
and I believe the 340 MB HDD itself was an upgrade from the original HDD
that came with the machine  

>  what size and model should i be looking for?

For  W31 anything close to 1 gig is a lot of room.  2 gig would be nice.

>  and where would I purchase/obtain it?

Ebay, dumpster diving, tell friends and relatives you will take _any_ old
computers.
If you can't use them junk them (quietly) so that others will give you
thier's.  If you
complain about having to toss them other people will not give you their's.


>if I got a larger HDD installed, would i need to partition it?

For Windows I would definitely recommend a separate VM swap file partition
of at least
100 meg, preferably 128 meg.  W31 will, by default, never use more than
half the available
space for a VM swap file.

>  I've heard MS-DOS 6.22 needs a smaller or equal to 2 GB partition

True, and approx 8 gig maximum drive size (total).

>  yet Caldera DR-DOS 7.03 is unlimited? what about Win3.11?

W31 is dependent on DOS.

>  and if I did obtain a new larger HDD how would I transfer the data from
>my current 340 MB HDD??

Easiest way would be if you can hook up both drives and just copy from one
to the
other.

>  I do have a parallel port iomega 100 MB zip drive yet how do I do a
>*DOS* back-up of my 340 MB HDD then restore to a new HDD using it? is it
>some DOS DISKCOPY command? will this allow me to smoothly back-up my
>current 340 MB HDD? with prompts when each zip disk gets full?

I wouldn't bother but there are utilities that would do this.

>  please remember I only have DOS(Caldera DR-DOS 7.03) currently on this
>machine... right now it is not possible to re-install Win3.11 because
>my/the HDD is so full, so are there *DOS* back-up programs available and
>if so where would i obtain them or would some sort of DOS DISKCOPY command
>in conjunction with my zip drive be sufficient??

I would use a utility to fill the zipdisks but would never want to use  a
zipdrive myself.


Charles.Angelich
http:/www.undercoverdesigin.com/dosghost/

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:31:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AT HDD upgrade (:

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:50:11 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [DOS-DISCUSS] AT HDD upgrade (:

Andy,

Don't get confused with the size of HD that DOS can recognize and the size of 
HD that the BIOS can recognize.  If you are running the 32-bit version of 
DR-DOS, the HD size that can be recognized by DR-DOS is considerably larger 
than 2.1 GB.

As I wrote previously, I have two HD's on my P75 (that has an Award 
BIOS) running M$-DOS 6.22, one is an 840 MB HD installed as the "master" 
drive and the other is a 30 GB HD installed as a "slave" drive.  (A drive is 
identified as an "only," "master," "slave," or "cable," by the positioning of 
a jumper on the drive.  There generally is a label on the HD and markings on 
the PC board  that show how the jumper is to be installed.)  The DriveMax 
card that I have installed modifies the BIOS on boot so that *the BIOS* (not 
necessarily the operating system) will recognize up to a 125 GB HD.  The 30 
GB HD was formated using Partition Magic and all 30 GB are recognized on boot 
up and by Partition Magic.  You can partition each hard drive into a *Primary 
DOS* partition, and/or an *Extended DOS* partition, each of which can be up 
to the 2 GB M$-DOS limit if permitted by the BIOS.  For example, I have the 
840 MB HD partitioned into a Primary (bootable) DOS partition, C:, and an 
*Extended* DOS partition.  The extended DOS partition on the 840 MB HD is 
further partitioned into *Logical* "drives," D:, E:, F:, G:, H:, I:, J:, and 
K:.  I have part of the 30 GB HD partitioned into an ~2.1 GB *Extended DOS* 
partition which is further partitioned into *Logical* "drives," L:, M: and N:.

DOS will *automatically* assign drive letters, with C: being the first 
primary partition on the first HD and the successive letters assigned to the 
logical "drives" on the *Extended* DOS partition.  (Caution:  If you install 
another primary partition for whatever OS on a HD, *it* will be identified as 
D: and all the drive letters in the *Extended DOS* partition will change.)

BIG CAUTION:  DriveSpace and other drive compression programs create a HIDDEN 
partition, D:, in which the compressed files are saved, and by smoke and 
mirrors the other drives are identified as if the hidden D: drive did not 
exist.  This is transparent as you *think* that all your files are on drive 
C:, when, in fact, only the uncompressed files that you are using are on 
drive C:.  MAKE SURE that you fully understand DriveSpace and what happens if 
you copy files to another drive;  are they copied uncompressed or are they 
copied as compressed files.  If they are copied as compressed files, they may 
permanently be unusable.

Before you do anything, you need to have a greater depth of knowledge of your 
computer and operating system than it seems you have.  I would suggest that 
you get a copy of Scott Mueller's book, "Upgrading and Repairing PCs," the 
older the better, and at least prior to the 6th edition, before you start 
trying to add HD's and copying files from one HD to the other.

*I will *try* and get this book...

Thank you,

Andy


HTH

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Andy wrote:

. >   yes, I could do this... 'A: drive' is my 3 1/2 inch floppy; 'B: drive' 

. > is a 5 1/2 floppy drive; 'C: drive' is the 340 MB HDD; 'D: drive' is a 4x

. > CD-ROM; 'E: drive' is my zip 100 MB parallel port zip drive... how would i

. > put it into the machine as D: or one of these other drive letters? i mean

. > the D: CD-ROM requires special drivers in my autoexec.bat to be

. > recognized.. how would i get a replacement temp. slave? drive recognized

. > in order to copy C:?? (the 2 floppy drives and the C: HDD don't need any 

. > special drivers to be recognized) what would I use to copy C:?? XCOPY??

. > could I use XCOPY /S and my zip drive to make an image/back-up of C:?

. > would/is there be a prompt using XCOPY to insert a new zip disk when one

. > 100 MB zip disk got full as I attempt to back-up/image my 340 MB C:? 


. >  how does one 'format as bootable'? is there an option in the DOS FORMAT
. > command? then I guess i would use fdisk to partition it? please remember 
. > i am using Caldera DR-DOS 7.03

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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:30:31 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [A-list] PCMCIA DOS driver found :-(

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:30:51 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 02:50:15 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

>> Hi List,
>>     I finaly found a DOS driver for the cardreader (memory stick)
>> in the PCMCIA-slot... carddrv.exe is in win95\systems.

>> Has to be installed in config.sys
> Bin win95\systems.
>> DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\carddrv.exe /slot=1 (advice in Win95)
>> "         "       "       "        /part=1 (advice in DOS)

>> But:
>> "No card services found. Int 1Ah did not succeed or wrong code. Card
>> services not installed."

>> Any suggestions?
>> In win95 the cardreader is OK = E:\
>> In DOS the cardreader is not installed

> You left yourself 'wide open' for this one, so don't complain. ;-)

> deltree c:\windows

Hi Glenn, deleting windows will not solve a DOS problem.
This is a DOS problem: carddrv.exe is a DOS program for DOS 5.0 and
higher.
I know you don't like windoze, I don't like it either. But... since DOS
can not 'yet' deliver the pictures from my camera and windoze does...

We have to find ways to use recently developed appliances for win in a
DOS environement, modems, printers, USB-ports, .... or we will certainly
lose the battle for DOS. Or should we call it *the war on windoze*?

CU, Bastiaan


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:44:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AT HDD upgrade (: (sorry all for my ignorance)

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:27:54 +00
From: "Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AT HDD upgrade (:

Hi Andy,
        Yes, I regognise your problems and I did solve likewise problems
a few months ago and I am working on two other machines right now.

But... you ask to many questions in one time.


*sorry everyone for all the mail and all my ignorant questions... (due to
a tragic disabilty i got into PC's very late (mid-90's) "in the game")
sorry again for all the mail and my ignorance regarding ancient PC
hardware (: :)
  

First: does the case has room enough for two hard disks?
If YES, install the second one and copy all the win 3.11 aplications to
the second HD to have the first HD free for DOS only.

How to install a second HD: in M$ DOS use FDISK. Jumpers on the 2nd HD
set for slave. The new HD must be formated before you can write to it.

To avoid problems with Fat16 or FAT32 systems (I suppose you now use
FAT16) do not install a HD larger than 2Gb.

After you reinstalled the win 3.11 OS you may have trouble with booting
up... that problem can be fixed.

If you just have room for one HD things become complicated, but can be
solved :-)

Regards, Bastiaan 



On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 22:59:06 -0400 (EDT), ANDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,

> I have a Very old computer...

> it is an AT-clone with a 386 DX 40mhz cpu

> it used to run Win3.11 before I deltree'd Win3.11 out of frustration

> yet it still has all it's Win3.11 software that I hope to use again when
> I re-install Win3.11

> now my OS om it is Caldera DR-DOS 7.03

> I have a number of new DOS apps that take up the room Windows used to
> take

> my 340 MB drive is packed and I am also using DriveSpace

> I need a new HDD

> where do I go from here?

> what is your recommendation for a new HDD that will fit my old AT case
> and BIOS(which has the option of a user defined drive(as was the 340 MB))
>    ((in my BIOS user defined opt. it asks for cylinder, head, etc.
> numbers)) ???

> what size and model should i be looking for?

> and where would I purchase/obtain it?

> if I got a larger HDD installed, would i need to partition it?

> I've heard MS-DOS 6.22 needs a smaller or equal to 2 GB partition

> yet Caldera DR-DOS 7.03 is unlimited? what about Win3.11?

> and if I did obtain a new larger HDD how would I transfer the data from
> my current 340 MB HDD??

> I do have a parallel port iomega 100 MB zip drive yet how do I do a
> *DOS* back-up of my 340 MB HDD then restore to a new HDD using it? is it
> some DOS DISKCOPY command? will this allow me to smoothly back-up my
> current 340 MB HDD? with prompts when each zip disk gets full?

> please remember I only have DOS(Caldera DR-DOS 7.03) currently on this
> machine... right now it is not possible to re-install Win3.11 because
> my/the HDD is so full, so are there *DOS* back-up programs available and
> if so where would i obtain them or would some sort of DOS DISKCOPY command
> in conjunction with my zip drive be sufficient??

> thanks in advance for any help rendered,

> andy


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Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 14:18:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: ANDY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DriveSpace and copying HDD's

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:50:11 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [DOS-DISCUSS] AT HDD upgrade (:


BIG CAUTION:  DriveSpace and other drive compression programs create a HIDDEN 
partition, D:, in which the compressed files are saved, and by smoke and 
mirrors the other drives are identified as if the hidden D: drive did not 
exist.  This is transparent as you *think* that all your files are on drive 
C:, when, in fact, only the uncompressed files that you are using are on 
drive C:.  

MAKE SURE that you fully understand DriveSpace and what happens if 
you copy files to another drive;  

are they copied uncompressed or are they 
copied as compressed files?  

If they are copied as compressed files, they may 
permanently be unusable.


*does anyone have answers to the above questions?


can I upgrade(copy) a HDD that is compressed with DriveSpace??



Before you do anything, you need to have a greater depth of knowledge of your 
computer and operating system than it seems you have.  I would suggest that 
you get a copy of Scott Mueller's book, "Upgrading and Repairing PCs," the 
older the better, and at least prior to the 6th edition, before you start 
trying to add HD's and copying files from one HD to the other.

*I will *try* and get this book...

Thank you,

Andy


HTH

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Andy wrote:

. >   yes, I could do this... 'A: drive' is my 3 1/2 inch floppy; 'B: drive' 

. > is a 5 1/2 floppy drive; 'C: drive' is the 340 MB HDD; 'D: drive' is a 4x

. > CD-ROM; 'E: drive' is my zip 100 MB parallel port zip drive... how would i

. > put it into the machine as D: or one of these other drive letters? i mean

. > the D: CD-ROM requires special drivers in my autoexec.bat to be

. > recognized.. how would i get a replacement temp. slave? drive recognized

. > in order to copy C:?? (the 2 floppy drives and the C: HDD don't need any 

. > special drivers to be recognized) what would I use to copy C:?? XCOPY??

. > could I use XCOPY /S and my zip drive to make an image/back-up of C:?

. > would/is there be a prompt using XCOPY to insert a new zip disk when one

. > 100 MB zip disk got full as I attempt to back-up/image my 340 MB C:? 


. >  how does one 'format as bootable'? is there an option in the DOS FORMAT
. > command? then I guess i would use fdisk to partition it? please remember 
. > i am using Caldera DR-DOS 7.03

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