arachne-digest         Monday, June 23 2003         Volume 01 : Number 2159




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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:52:34 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> gives Hotlist

On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:08:11 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:

> If there are no pages to go forward to, <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> will cause the
> Hotlist to appear. (1.71UE w/upgrade)  It used to just give a beep if there
> were no pages to go forward to.

> Is this a "feature" or a "bug?"

Nope.... AFAIK, it's niether.
This is the first I've heard of it and I can't duplicate it.

Here's one way that I can think of that this might happen.

site name             position in history.lst

homepage                        1
go2somesite                     2
someplaceElse                   3
anotherPlace                    4
YetAnother                      5
hotlist                         6
'back' to YetAnother            5
onemorenewsite                  6 (hotlist is now 7)
andAnother                      7 (hotlist is now 8)
still1more                      8 (hotlist is now 9)
'back' to andAnother            7
'back' to onemorenewsite        6
'forward' to andAnother         7
'forward' to still1more         8
'forward' to hotlist            9
'forward' causes beep


Does that sound logical ???? ;-)


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 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:23:44 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NNEWS.ZIP

> At last.... read (no sending yet) news groups (NNTP) with
> Arachne.

Hi Alejandro,

this weekend I have been playing a lot with UKA-PPP/YARN,
including your recently posted Arachne APM. Here is my comment.

Regards
Christof Lange




UKA-PPP/YARN
- ------------

I started to like a lot YARN ver. 0.92 and set it up for use
with e-mail as well as for newsgroups. Considering the international
charset, MIME and the folder management Yarn cannot compete with
Pmail. But as a news client it is far superior.

When I finally got to work UKA-PPP it seemed to be quite reliable.
Most important was the reduction of files: I actually kept only 15
of 167! I finally deleted all those scripts and menus and wrote two
batch files, one for YARN and one for UKA-PPP. The latter contains
menu options:

        Offline menu
         1 Dial
         2 Read mail and news
         3 News options
         4 Mail options
         0 Exit

        Online  menu
         1 Get news
         2 Get mail
         3 Send mail
         4 Hang up

I consider UKAPPP as an alternative to Arachne on PC386 or lower.
Thus it may work as mail transport agent in connection with Pmail,
as all the other ones seem to be worse than Arachne's built-in mta.

YARN is the appropriate way of working with newsgroups - without
graphical interface, of course! To implement a 'get news' function
into Arachne or at least sharing Arachne's connection while online
does make sense to me. But I do not think that the Arachne mail
interface (even with a line 'newsgroup: ' in the message header)
can be very useful to read the incoming news articles.


NNEWS.ZIP
- ---------

Anyway I tested your APM, customized it for my directory structure
and made a few changes that I want to share with you. Here are the
files:

NNEWS    BAT      modified
NNSETUP  BAT      modified
SEPARATE EXE      I renamed your modification of X_SPOOL.EXE
TCPPORT  EXE
X_NNEWS  EXE
NNEWS    OOK      modified
TEST     RC       instead of microssoft.rc
TEST     GR       new
MY_NNEWS TXT      this file


*** NNEWS.BAT ***********************************

@echo off
p:
cd \spool
md nnews
p:\separate.exe n????.msg /ar
move p:\spool\nnews\*.mes p:\%home%.mai
 rem move p:\spool\nnews\*.mes p:\nnews.nb
rd nnews
cd \
for %%f in (p:\%home%.mai\n*.mes) do ren %%f *.cnm
 rem for %%f in (p:\nnews.nb\n*.mes) do ren %%f *.cnb

****************************************************

As my PC386 has only 8MB RAM and Arachne sits on a RAM drive I need to
download news to the harddisk (P:). P:\%home%.mai is my Newmail
directory
for Pmail (and as well Arachne's main mail directory). As I like to
read
incoming mail with Arachne and Pmail, I have modified inbox.dgi to
read
.cn? extensions. I made some experiments to move the articles to a
Noticeboard directory within Pmail (p:\nnews.nb). But Pmail actually
is not very useful as a news reader. Above those lines are commented
out.
Rather than applying a separate news folder I would suggest a specific
file extension (e.g. .cnb) that can be handled by a line in mime.cfg
(compare our recent discussion on marking files in inbox as old).

Your hardcoded directory structures caused a slight problem. I finally
decided to create a temporary directory for reformatting. And I wonder
whether separate.exe (a.k.a nnews.exe a.k.a. x_spool.exe is really
necessary. The incoming .msg files could probably be split up with
some unix-like text utility.


*** NNSETUP.BAT **********************************

cls
@echo off
echo This batch file will load necessary files
echo to allow downloading netnews (USENET)
echo groups and reading them with Arachne
echo.
echo Arachne must be in d:\arachne directory
echo.
pause
copy tcpport.exe p:\
copy x_nnews.exe p:\
copy separate.exe p:\
copy test.rc p:\
copy test.gr p:\
copy nnews.bat p:\
copy nnews.ook d:\arachne\oops
md p:\spool

****************************************************

Only nnews.ook is copied to the Arachne directory. The UKAPPP
program and configuration files sit on the hard disk. Download
speed is limited by modem. Using RAM disk as target does not
offer any advantage.


*** NNEWS.OOK ****************************************

@echo off
cls
echo.
echo       Downloading USENET groups
echo.
d:
cd \arachne
if not exist IP-UP.bat goto off
call IP-UP.bat
rem>wattcp.cfg
echo my_ip=%myip% >> wattcp.cfg
echo gateway=%remip% >> wattcp.cfg
echo netmask=%netmask% >> wattcp.cfg
echo nameserver=212.20.96.34 >> wattcp.cfg
echo nameserver=212.20.96.38 >> wattcp.cfg
echo peermru=%peermru% >> wattcp.cfg
echo sockdelay=60 >> wattcp.cfg
echo domainslist="volny.cz" >> wattcp.cfg
echo popuser="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> wattcp.cfg
echo HELO=on >> wattcp.cfg
echo TZ="-1" >> wattcp.cfg
set myip=%MYIP%
:off
copy wattcp.cfg P:\
:NNTP
cls
echo NEWS
p:
cd p:\
tcpport.exe news.felk.cvut.cz 119 x_nnews.exe test.rc
pause
cls
echo.
echo Unpacking USENET groups
echo.
call nnews.bat
pause
d:
cd \arachne

******************************************************

Only a few remarks:

- - As I run Arachne on RAM disk and change to another drive,
  I need to return to the RAM disk in the end

- - The Czech server news.felk.cvut.cz is my favourite one.

- - My IPS's nameservers are 212.20.96.34 and 212.20.96.38

- - What took me the most time to find out: for the news server
  the popuser is NOT ("cce.zizkov"), but the complete e-mail
  address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")

And finally a few words on the news configuration files:

- - TEST.RC : does not need any type of header if the name of the
  server is listed in the command line. Instead of 50 MS articles
  I suggest just 5 Linux articles:

        alt.os.linux.slackware  -5

- - TEST.GR : a dummy list should be provided in the APM package,
  in order to prevent the news server from sending a 2,5 MB list.
  e.g. a one-line-file:

        !new_groups:030621 125057



_______________________________________________

 Christof Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Prokopova 4, 130 00 Praha 3, Czech Republic
 phone: (+420) 222 78 06 73 / 222 78 20 02
 http://www.volny.cz/cce.zizkov

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:28:54 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> gives Hotlist

Hi Glenn,

This popped up while I was surfing the web.  To check it out, I went offline, 
deleted all files (*.*) in the cache directory (on my RAM disk), went back 
online to my home page and hit <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> and Hotlist popped up 
again.  Other than the items cached when loading the home page, and Hotlist 
was not one of them, there were no other items in the Cache.

Hotlist is at:

[system]
Hotlist I:\ARA171UE\HOTLIST.HTM

I can't seem to make sense of the History.lst any more.  At one time, sites 
visited were appended to the end of the list and when the history list was 
brought to the screen, it would appear in reverse order, with the most recent 
site visited listed first and then going back in succession.  Now, it appears 
that the last site visited can be located anywhere in the history list, 
whether it is viewed as HTML or is viewed as plain text.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Glenn wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:08:11 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:

> If there are no pages to go forward to, <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> will cause the
> Hotlist to appear. (1.71UE w/upgrade)  It used to just give a beep if there
> were no pages to go forward to.

> Is this a "feature" or a "bug?"

Nope.... AFAIK, it's niether.
This is the first I've heard of it and I can't duplicate it.

Here's one way that I can think of that this might happen.

site name             position in history.lst

homepage                        1
go2somesite                     2
someplaceElse                   3
anotherPlace                    4
YetAnother                      5
hotlist                         6
'back' to YetAnother            5
onemorenewsite                  6 (hotlist is now 7)
andAnother                      7 (hotlist is now 8)
still1more                      8 (hotlist is now 9)
'back' to andAnother            7
'back' to onemorenewsite        6
'forward' to andAnother         7
'forward' to still1more         8
'forward' to hotlist            9
'forward' causes beep


Does that sound logical ???? ;-)


- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:28:54 -0400
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> gives Hotlist

Hi Glenn,

This popped up while I was surfing the web.  To check it out, I went offline, 
deleted all files (*.*) in the cache directory (on my RAM disk), went back 
online to my home page and hit <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> and Hotlist popped up 
again.  Other than the items cached when loading the home page, and Hotlist 
was not one of them, there were no other items in the Cache.

Hotlist is at:

[system]
Hotlist I:\ARA171UE\HOTLIST.HTM

I can't seem to make sense of the History.lst any more.  At one time, sites 
visited were appended to the end of the list and when the history list was 
brought to the screen, it would appear in reverse order, with the most recent 
site visited listed first and then going back in succession.  Now, it appears 
that the last site visited can be located anywhere in the history list, 
whether it is viewed as HTML or is viewed as plain text.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona

Glenn wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 15:08:11 -0400, Roger Turk wrote:

> If there are no pages to go forward to, <CTRL-RIGHT ARROW> will cause the
> Hotlist to appear. (1.71UE w/upgrade)  It used to just give a beep if there
> were no pages to go forward to.

> Is this a "feature" or a "bug?"

Nope.... AFAIK, it's niether.
This is the first I've heard of it and I can't duplicate it.

Here's one way that I can think of that this might happen.

site name             position in history.lst

homepage                        1
go2somesite                     2
someplaceElse                   3
anotherPlace                    4
YetAnother                      5
hotlist                         6
'back' to YetAnother            5
onemorenewsite                  6 (hotlist is now 7)
andAnother                      7 (hotlist is now 8)
still1more                      8 (hotlist is now 9)
'back' to andAnother            7
'back' to onemorenewsite        6
'forward' to andAnother         7
'forward' to still1more         8
'forward' to hotlist            9
'forward' causes beep


Does that sound logical ???? ;-)


- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:57:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Thomas Mueller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NEW MONEY

from Glenn McCorkle:

>> No messages will get through to me and none can be sent by me
>> if they contain a dollar sign ($) in the subject.

>> Those several messages with suject: M$lookout did
>> not get through to my inbox.

> There is *no* user configurability.

> I am STUCK.

> Untill I change ISPs ;-)

You can look for a free email account, you might try http://www.gmx.net if
you're willing to face instructions in German.  I have an account
faucetno33 at gmx.net (don't want to make it too easy for spammers).  There
are also other free email services, including some that have been discussed on
this list.

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:35:54 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bug report - Arachne does not download full web page

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:24:38 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Udo Kuhnt) wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:52:11 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:40:53 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Udo Kuhnt)
>> wrote:

>>> I just wanted to know if the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still valid for
>>> sending Arachne-related bug reports. Having sent several mails to
>>> arachne.cz in the last few years without getting an answer, I sometimes
>>> wonder if the mail server just forwards them all to NUL. Well, at least
>>> majordomus is still responding. ;-)

>> Yes,
>> That address is still valid.

>> However,
>> Michael has not had the time read very many of those
>> messages in over 2 years.

>> Therefore,
>> This is a better address to use for reporting any bugs.
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Well, I had hoped that you would say this. So I take my chances and send
> you a report of what I think is a bug in Arachne. :-)

> Recently, I ran a CGI script on my web site to dump the contents of the
> connections database and was surprised that Arachne did not show the
> full list. I thought it was a bug in the script, but a try with Lynx did
> result in the whole html document being downloaded, so the script was
> sending the full content. Arachne seems to stop the download shortly
> after 26000 bytes have been received from the server - without an
> apparent reason. The version of Arachne I am currently using is
> 1.71UE01.
> If you want to have a look at this yourself, I have set up a test CGI
> script at http://www.drdosprojects.de/cgi-bin/aratest.cgi .

What you experienced is a 'side effect' of my "Quick-N-Dirty fix" of the
'Runaway download counter bug'.

On very large http pages where thre server is not telling us the
file size. The RDLC bug fix will terminate the download when
24000 unsuccessful attempts have been made to get new data from the
connection.

This is the bit of code I used to prevent the RDLC bug from causing
the unstoppable loop we were having in versions 1.69 and 1.70


- --- in html.c of the src code ---
//!!glennmcc: begin Feb 24, 2002 (Quick-n-dirty Fix for RDLC bug)
   bflenold=bflen;
//!!glennmcc: end

   bflen=readHTML(cache,p->html_source);

   if(bflen<=0 || p->memory_overflow) //end of page, or out of memory
    goto exitloop;
   else
    i=0;
  }

//!!glennmcc: begin Feb 24, 2002 (Quick-n-dirty Fix for RDLC bug)
if (cache->knowsize)goto knowsize;
   if (bflenold==bflen)
   {
    retry++;
   }
   else
   {
    retry=0;
   }
   if(retry>24000)
   {
    retry=0;
    goto exitloop;
   }
knowsize:
//!!glennmcc: end
_________________________________

- -- 
 Glenn
 http://arachne.cz/
 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:10:51 -0400
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bug report - Arachne does not download full web page

I forgot to describe the 'work-around'.

When the 'side effect' kicks in.....

While still viewing the partially downloaded page.
Hit DEL to remove it from the cache.

Go back in history to the page containing the link.

Hold the Ctrl key this time while taking the link.
(background download)

Stay on this page until the download has completed.
(leaving this page will terminate the D/L)

After the D/L is complete... go forward in history to the complete page.

I just used this metod to get aratest.cgi


Is this the corrct filesize ?
(the BIG one) ;-)

 Volume in drive L is MS-RAMDRIVE
 Directory of  L:\ARACHNE\CACHE

.            <DIR>     6-22-03  8:04p
..           <DIR>     6-22-03  8:04p
HEADERS      <DIR>     6-22-03  8:04p
56329968 HTM     6220  6-22-03  8:58p
$IDX$CNM IDX        0  6-22-03  9:04p
$SRT$CNM IDX        0  6-22-03  9:04p
56329980 HTM     3001  6-22-03  8:59p
56330279 HTM     6661  6-22-03  9:04p
56330322 HTM   415763  6-22-03  9:05p
56330474 HTM     3059  6-22-03  9:07p
56330575 HTM     6875  6-22-03  9:08p
       11 File(s)  59305984 bytes free


And is this the correct last line of the file ? (split for emailing)

91.72.255.62 => 1047148488,Mozilla/4.0
 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; ntlworld v2.0)

On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:35:54 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:24:38 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Udo Kuhnt)
> wrote:

>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:52:11 -0400, Glenn McCorkle wrote:

>>> On Sat, 07 Jun 2003 00:40:53 +0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Udo Kuhnt)
>>> wrote:

>>>> I just wanted to know if the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] is still valid for
>>>> sending Arachne-related bug reports. Having sent several mails to
>>>> arachne.cz in the last few years without getting an answer, I sometimes
>>>> wonder if the mail server just forwards them all to NUL. Well, at least
>>>> majordomus is still responding. ;-)

>>> Yes,
>>> That address is still valid.

>>> However,
>>> Michael has not had the time read very many of those
>>> messages in over 2 years.

>>> Therefore,
>>> This is a better address to use for reporting any bugs.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> Well, I had hoped that you would say this. So I take my chances and send
>> you a report of what I think is a bug in Arachne. :-)

>> Recently, I ran a CGI script on my web site to dump the contents of the
>> connections database and was surprised that Arachne did not show the
>> full list. I thought it was a bug in the script, but a try with Lynx did
>> result in the whole html document being downloaded, so the script was
>> sending the full content. Arachne seems to stop the download shortly
>> after 26000 bytes have been received from the server - without an
>> apparent reason. The version of Arachne I am currently using is
>> 1.71UE01.
>> If you want to have a look at this yourself, I have set up a test CGI
>> script at http://www.drdosprojects.de/cgi-bin/aratest.cgi .

> What you experienced is a 'side effect' of my "Quick-N-Dirty fix" of the
> 'Runaway download counter bug'.

> On very large http pages where thre server is not telling us the
> file size. The RDLC bug fix will terminate the download when
> 24000 unsuccessful attempts have been made to get new data from the
> connection.

> This is the bit of code I used to prevent the RDLC bug from causing
> the unstoppable loop we were having in versions 1.69 and 1.70

> --- in html.c of the src code ---
> //!!glennmcc: begin Feb 24, 2002 (Quick-n-dirty Fix for RDLC bug)
> bflenold=bflen;
> //!!glennmcc: end

> bflen=readHTML(cache,p->html_source);

> if(bflen<=0 || p->memory_overflow) //end of page, or out of memory
> goto exitloop;
> else
> i=0;
> }

> //!!glennmcc: begin Feb 24, 2002 (Quick-n-dirty Fix for RDLC bug)
> if (cache->knowsize)goto knowsize;
> if (bflenold==bflen)
> {
> retry++;
> }
> else
> {
> retry=0;
> }
> if(retry>24000)
> {
> retry=0;
> goto exitloop;
> }
> knowsize:
> //!!glennmcc: end
> _________________________________
- --
 Glenn
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 http://www.delorie.com/listserv/mime/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/
 http://www.cisnet.com/glennmcc/aqc/

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:00:23 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: message sorting order

Hi List!

Is there any way of telling Arachne _not_ to sort the outbox by date of
last ammendment, and to leave the messages in the order they were
originally written?

I like to write all my replies and other outgoing messages offline, then
later check them over to see whether they need any alterations. But I
find it disconcerting that when I rewrite (say) message 3 of 10 and save
it back to the outbox, it is now message 10 and the old numbers 4 to 10
have become 3 to 9.

Considering the way the Outbox appears to work, I guess it may not be
possible to change this, but here's hoping!

BTW, I love the way things that I and other people toss in get discussed
and often solved by the group, although Glenn deserves most of the
credit for the solutions.

OTOH he seems to enjoy the discussions as well as I do!

Cheers from Greg
- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 13:05:40 +0930
From: "Greg Mayman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AT HDD upgrade (:

On Wed, 18 Jun 2003 02:27:54 +00, Bastiaan Edelman, PA3FFZ wrote:

> How to install a second HD: in M$ DOS use FDISK. Jumpers on the 2nd HD
> set for slave. The new HD must be formated before you can write to it.

No, you do NOT use FDISK. You just set the jumper on the second hard disk
to S(lave) and attach the second connector of the IDE cable to it. Then
switch on and set the Setup to the number of cylinders etc which (if
you're lucky) is printed on the label of the HDD.

You only need FDISK if you have to partition the disk.

I recommend removing the present hard disk and running all the setup
stuff from a floppy disk. With MSDOS622 that I use, it requires making a
boot floppy and copying DEBUG.EXE, FDISK.EXE and FORMAT.COM to this boot
disk.

I strongly recommend doing a low level format on any secondhand hard
disk. With most computers, the MSDOS 6.22 commands that work will be
1) DEBUG       to load DEBUG
2) G=C800:5    once DEUBG is loaded, to start the low level format
3) Q           to quit debug.

This process is slow, but it will rewrite all the track and sector
markers that FORMAT can't get at, and it will also totally remove any
hidden viruses and other nasties that may be lurking on the disk.

Then you need to do an FDISK to set up the disk as a single partition,
or as multiple partitions if the HDD is larger than the computer and DOS
can handle. In my case with MSDOS622 on a 486, that limit is 512meg.

Then each partition needs to be formatted. If this is to be the main
hard disk eventually, then the first partition must be formatted as a
boot disk, using the command "FORMAT C: /S"

> To avoid problems with Fat16 or FAT32 systems (I suppose you now use
> FAT16) do not install a HD larger than 2Gb.

My 486 running MS-DOS 6.22 can't handle anything larger than 512m.

However, I'm told I can install *any* size disk and partition it with
FDISK to whatever number of partitions as long as none of them is larger
than the max size my system can handle, in my case 512meg. OTOH that is
outside my present experience so I don't know whether it's correct.

> If you just have room for one HD things become complicated, but can be
> solved :-)

As above to set up the disk. Then with the computer switched off, set
the jumper on the new disk to [S]lave and reconnect the old HDD to the
cable -- if there isn't room inside the case, one of them will have to
hang outside for the present.

As you start up, you'll have to redo the setup for the two drives.

The new HDD (or the first partition on it) will be the D: drive and the
old HDD the C: drive. You can now execute "XCOPY C:\*.* D: /S". The "/S"
causes XCOPY to recurse all the subdirectories and it makes a full copy
of the C: drive on the D: drive.

Then switch off, remove the old HDD, and change the jumper on the new
one to [M]aster, switch on and redo the Setup.

You should now see the new hard disk as the C: drive, and any extra
partitions on it as D:, E:, etc...

from Greg Mayman, in Adelaide, South Australia
Home of the Bay to Birwood Vintage and Classic motor runs
        http://www.baytobirdwood.com.au

Visit me at http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/greg_mayman/default.htm

- -- Arachne V1.71;UE01, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:45:02 
From: Alejandro Lieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NNEWS.ZIP

On 22 Jun 03 at 22:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> > At last.... read (no sending yet) news groups (NNTP) with
> > Arachne.
> 
> Hi Alejandro,
> 
> this weekend I have been playing a lot with UKA-PPP/YARN,
> including your recently posted Arachne APM. Here is my comment.
> 
> Regards
> Christof Lange
> 
> UKA-PPP/YARN
> ------------
> 
> I started to like a lot YARN ver. 0.92 and set it up for use
> with e-mail as well as for newsgroups. Considering the international
> charset, MIME and the folder management Yarn cannot compete with
> Pmail. But as a news client it is far superior.
> 
> When I finally got to work UKA-PPP it seemed to be quite reliable.
> Most important was the reduction of files: I actually kept only 15
> of 167! I finally deleted all those scripts and menus and wrote two
> batch files, one for YARN and one for UKA-PPP. The latter contains

I did the same. 

> I consider UKAPPP as an alternative to Arachne on PC386 or lower.

I used it in a 80286 with 1 MBy with hercules.


> *** NNEWS.OOK ****************************************
> 
> @echo off
> cls
> echo.
> echo       Downloading USENET groups
> echo.
> d:
> cd \arachne
> if not exist IP-UP.bat goto off
> call IP-UP.bat
> rem>wattcp.cfg
> echo my_ip=%myip% >> wattcp.cfg
> echo gateway=%remip% >> wattcp.cfg
> echo netmask=%netmask% >> wattcp.cfg
> echo nameserver=212.20.96.34 >> wattcp.cfg
> echo nameserver=212.20.96.38 >> wattcp.cfg
> echo peermru=%peermru% >> wattcp.cfg
> echo sockdelay=60 >> wattcp.cfg
> echo domainslist="volny.cz" >> wattcp.cfg

I also have ===>>>  echo host=citynet.net.ar >> wattcp.cfg 

> echo popuser="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> wattcp.cfg
> echo HELO=on >> wattcp.cfg
> echo TZ="-1" >> wattcp.cfg
> set myip=%MYIP%
> :off
> copy wattcp.cfg P:\
> :NNTP
> cls
> echo NEWS
> p:
> cd p:\
> tcpport.exe news.felk.cvut.cz 119 x_nnews.exe test.rc
> pause
> cls
> echo.

I unpack USENET groups offline, after hanging my phone.

> echo Unpacking USENET groups
> echo.
> call nnews.bat
> pause
> d:
> cd \arachne
> 
> ******************************************************
> Only a few remarks:
> 
> - What took me the most time to find out: for the news server
>   the popuser is NOT ("cce.zizkov"), but the complete e-mail
>   address ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")

Probably because you don't have: echo host=citynet.net.ar >> wattcp.cfg
 
> - TEST.GR : a dummy list should be provided in the APM package,
>   in order to prevent the news server from sending a 2,5 MB list.
>   e.g. a one-line-file:
> 
>         !new_groups:030621 125057
 
I think that "$list: 0" in test.rc does the same.

Sometimes, I download mail with x_popn.exe, I run the following lines:

ren c:\yarn\uka_ppp\spool\*.msg *.cnm
move c:\yarn\uka_ppp\spool\*.cnm c:\pmail\mail\

and read them with Pegasus mail for DOS or Windows.




Free good Sans Serif fonts for MS-DOS at: 
http://www.limasa.com.ar/novafont.zip

Configurable dialing menu for several DOS internet programs at:
http://www.limasa.com.ar/dial_ip.zip

- ----------------------
Ing.  Alejandro Lieber  
Rosario      Argentina
lima[at]citynet.net.ar
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