L.D.,

 Are you speaking of the file size differences between the 2 versions?
If so, I'm sorry to say that there's a problem in your math.

File size does not determine memory requirements.

A program _might_ use more memory than the file size.
EPPPD.EXE    49258  9-19-97  9:39p
02F4:0000      EPPPD    11210h  70,160   Program

 Or it _might_ use less.
DRMOUSE.COM    17559  9-03-98 12:15p
FD4F:0000   DRMOUSE      1990h   6,544   Program

BTW, EPPPD does not load high on my system because......

Memory Type      Total Bytes ( Kbytes  )       Available For Programs
Conventional         655,360 (    640K )          566,784 (    554K )
Upper                307,040 (    300K )          128,112 (    125K )
High                  65,520 (     64K )            3,096 (      3K )
Extended          66,060,288 ( 64,512K )                0 (      0K )
Extended via XMS        --------               15,718,400 ( 15,350K )
EMS               83,017,728 ( 81,072K )       15,728,640 ( 15,360K )
Largest executable program:  566,752 ( 553K )                               �
Total Free DOS memory:       694,896 ( 679K )                               �

(it would be nice if EPPPD could load into "upper" as a second choice)



On Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:02:53 -0400, L.D. Best wrote:

> Have to admit it -- I thought this was all so much bunk, of little
> consequence, etc.

> Then I went and did a quick check, and was flabbergasted!  I have DOS
> 5.0 and 6.22, and both have HIMEM.SYS.  The 5.0 version is about 11K,
> while the 6.22 version is almost 30K!!  That could be the difference
> between being able to run Arachne and not being able to.

> However, if a person has to load SETVER to run the 5.0 v of HIMEM in an
> otherwise 6.x version of DOS, will there be any saving of memory?  Well,
> I couldn't leave that question hanging so did another check.  SETVER.EXE
> v. 6.22 is 12,015 bytes -- that's only 8 bytes bigger than v 5.0.  Doing
> a bit of math, it would seem that there is a savings in memory even if
> you have to use SETVER.

> 29K - 11K = ~18K   possible savings in memory using v 5.0 HIMEM
>       - 12K   if you have to use SETVER to use " " " " " "
>       -----
> Leaving      ~6K  net savings in memory by using older version HIMEM

> I knew there were a couple of good reasons I persist in running DOS 5.0
> when I could move "upward"; this discovery today verifies I am
> apparently doing the right thing.

> l.d.
> ====

> On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 21:54:53 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:

>> Sam Heywood wrote:
>>> Do any of you folks know if there are different versions of
>>> HIMEM.SYS?

>> Sure, for instance the switch "/TestMem:Off" isn't available on all
>> (MS-DOS, dunno about the others)

>>> If there are different versions, which versions work with which
>>> versions of DOS?

>> I think any will work. I haven't heard of a .sys file that required any
>> certain version (but if so it could be fixed with "setver").

>>> Do any of you know of a download site for HIMEM.SYS?

>> Nope, try to find complete downloads of DOS if you want it.

>> Why do you ask? Perhaps someone use less memmory then the other? The hunt
>> for the almighty free byte in low memmory continues...
>> //Bernie
>> http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...

> -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/

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