arachne-digest Monday, January 24 2000 Volume 01 : Number 966 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:15:22 -0800 (PST) From: Ken Martwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 1.60 image problems at Quake's Or Botton wrote: > Here's something. While trying to visit http://www.quake3arena.com and > http://www.idsoftware.com (not the title page, just about everywhere > else) only afew of the GIFs were visible, while only .JPG were all there. > The .GIFs that were not visible had red color to mark them. And here's > the strange thing: a F9 screen-refresh managed to get these unviewable > GIFs to be viewable again. > Memory problem? I went to this URL this morning, got about half a download, and Arachne suddenly started cycling through other sites on my history list! I finally managed to hang up with Alt-H and exit. Just now, I tried the same URL on another computer; the download was fine and the display seemed to be perfect. The two computers are quite similar 486's with 20 and 16 Mb of RAM. Both run PTS-DOS v.6.51. Ken Martwick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:17:45 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: New stuff in 1.60b1 Glenn McCorkle wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:13:33 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote: > > > Also, I edited the "export.bmp" screen (Hit F4 when it comes up) to change > > the default name and directory for export. I didn't know how to make it show > > the complete path so I just put in ".\Export\PAGE.BMP". Works. > > It was REALLY nice to be able to shell out and create that directory before > > I hit the "Export" button. <g> > > Yes, yet another update....<vbg> > > Use this line in Mime.cfg if you'de like the saved .BMP to always go > into your "Download" dir. > > file/exportbmp.dgi |[100]COPY _4prt.bmp $w$s>NUL \n del _4prt.bmp Ahhh. So I can also replace "$w" with ".\\EXPORT\\" ! Ok, I've tried this now and the downside is it doesn't show the destination directory in the export dialog box. So I prefer my previous method where I edit prntbmp.ah to display the proper directory. BTW, I think it would be a good idea to create this directory for ALL installs. It makes more sense to keep this stuff separate from Downloads. And it might be a also be good idea if ALL the export.ah's displayed the export dir as part of the default filename. (IMHO today) - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:16:51 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Istallation problem: stack overflow / memory allocation error Bernd, Suggest you copy config.sys and autoexec.bat from school machine to a FD and then send them into the list. Also when you do this, tell what DOS and what version is on the school machines. With that info the helpful people of the list can probably get you up and running on those 386s. l.d. ==== On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:59:50 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Martin) wrote: > At our school we have some old 386�s with 8 MB Ram and without > Windows, which we want to use for Internet-access. > I tried to install Arachne, but after choosing a suitable video mode > Arachne starts to build up its screen (part of the screen is already > visible: bottom line and two top lines) and then error messages appear: > sometimes stack overflow; I got around this by playing around in the > config.sys with files, buffers and so on. > Now I mostly have a message like memory allocation error > (Speicherzuordnungsfehler in German). I am using himem.sys and emm386 > noems; memmaker was done. During setup I choose XMS and VGA. > Exchanging VGA graphic cards did not help! I have done a memory stress > test: everthing fine. > I do not know how to go on. I would appreciate any help. Thank You very > much > Bernd Martin > [Attached file: 45LE8402.HTM] - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 15:10:52 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: smartdrv.exe Michael, Since you don't have a RAM drive set up to handle temp directory, and since you have 627 conventional memory *with* EPPPD loaded, for heavens sake YES, you want smartdrive to stay! If you don't believe me, do this experiment: With smart drive loaded, go read your mail. Start timing the process from when you hit "I" for inbox; select message 1 and as soon as it writes to the screen click the "next message" arrow at the top. Do this a total of 5 messages and check the time it took. Then REM out smartdrive, reboot and time the same process with the same messages again. You should see a significant decrease in speed and increase in the time it takes to load and view those 5 pieces of e-mail. If the time differential between disk cached and not disk cached doesn't bother you, then don't bother with smartdrive ... but you have more than enough memory for Arachne as it now stands. l.d. ==== On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:10:00 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote: > Hello all, > On some computers I have smartdrv.exe loaded, and I am > wondering if it really does any good. It's one more item > that I have to either place in conventional memory or > load it high. > l. Does Arachne benefit from smartdrv? > 2. Is it only for windows programs like Netscape, > Eudora, etc? > 3. On machines with only 8 MB ram, is it of more > value, than say, on a box with 32 MB ram? > I've attached a mem.txt to this email that shows > the current setup on this machine. > Thanks, > Michael L. Dawley > Pearl, Mississippi > --Arachne 1.50 on AMD 486DX4-120 16MB Ram 2GB HDD-- > -- Arachne V1.50;s.r.c., NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/ > [Attached file: mem.txt] - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:27:22 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: One more graphic browser for dos ? Jake's correct on that. But the way PTS has Arachne bundled in his package makes it impossible to tell what is where without first installing the entire OS. I don't want to do that yet, do I? No. Maybe later when I'm feeling brave. In the docs the author of PTsDOS states that Arachne doesn't belong to him, but I'd be interested in finding out if it is made clear anywhere that Arachne is not free, and that an updated version might not run on PTS. Another one to add to my "round tuit" list ... l.d. ==== On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 0:14:9 +0800, J J Young wrote: > The PTS DOS site states that the browser is actually Arachne. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:36:39 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bug Report: Centering within tables Even weirder than Jake's example ... The first time I went to the attachment the "oops still centered" lines were NOT centered; they were at left margin even with firt blahs. I check the html code to see if he'd actually put in the </center> and he had. Then I returned to mail to respond, but first clicked again on the attachment. That time the lines WERE still centered! ARGHJHH!!! Sometimes Arachne see the command, and sometimes it doesn't! l.d. I went back and tried again and again, even deleted the temp file and reindexed e-mail so I could get the attachment processed again ... and all of those times the "oops" lines were NOT centered. And, long lines were still long lines in the htm Arachne created. ==== On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 0:14:14 +0800, J J Young wrote: > Tables are frequently used to limit the line-length of the enclosed paragraphs. > If a text item or image is centered within a table the closing </center> tag > has no effect in Arachne. For subsequent items to be non-centered you > have to end and start a new row or table. Breaking large tables into smaller > tables is actually a good idea! > This behaviour was not apparent in 1.48 nor in other browsers. > Examples are attached. > Jake > [Attached file: center.htm] - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:55:50 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: http://webbox.com/ Sam, I don't think anything dire was planned when webbox asked for your password. I use the older www.startmail.com to access my e-mail on my ISP via the web; to do that both username and password are required. Webbox offers, somewhere, the ability to access up to 5 e-mail accounts; the first one would have been the [EMAIL PROTECTED] So far, having used www.mailstart.com for a couple of months or so, I've had no bad repercussions from providing my e-dress & password. I haven't gotten any nasty letters accusing me of spamming or anything like that. <G> I actually checked my mail using webbox yesterday ... all I had to do was re-enter my password, since I'd logged off of mailstart prior to switching over to webbox. So I don't think providing the password should cause any problems; neither username or password are saved, or I wouldn't have to enter the data each time ... a cookie would tweak an automagic feed, right?? l.d. P.S. I seldom recommend sites I feel might be hazzardous to computer health. ==== On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:23:12 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 18:20:24 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: >> Found this today ... didn't interest me until I read a bit more. >> Notice one NICE thing: website "public" access to items marked "public." >> Only 20Mb storage, but more than adequate for file transfers. And you can bet >> it should be faster than e-mailing encoded files <snip> > Hello Arachnids: > I checked out the site and my first impression was that it is a real good > thing. I decided to sign up. As I was entering my information on the form, > I came to a block that requested my private password for my email account > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Why should any one other than myself need to know > that kind of information? My last impression was that it was a bad thing. > So I abruptly aborted the sign up procedure and got out of there in a hurry! > Sam Heywood > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:14:38 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Some bugs I may have an answer ... On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:09:17 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote: > Why should the act of hanging up affect anything except the contents of the > status bar ? I have noticed that, unlike all previous versions, when a page is reloaded so are all the elements on the screen -- menu bar, bottom, top, sides, everything. I think this may have to do with the ability to export "screen print" as a single integrated file. If such were the case, then the change on the status bar *does* require the single image on the screen be updated. ...but not betting my future on that premise l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:10:03 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New BUG! I thought I was having problems with dupe messages again today. I kept seeing the same message over and over. Then I checked the message X of Y and it wasn't changing. Trash dgi not working. I'll finish this and reboot, and see if messages can be trashed once more. I only have 92 items in cache, DOS memory is green at 62[+] in editor as I write this. Can't figure this out. <big BIG sigh> l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:03:18 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: startmail is wrong ... I'm not old enough to have Alzheimers ... honest. But sometimes I have halfzheimers. the URL for web based e-mail access is http://mailstart.com l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:52:34 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: (OT) Re: startmail is wrong ... On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 19:03:18 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > I'm not old enough to have Alzheimers ... honest. But sometimes I have > halfzheimers. > the URL for web based e-mail access is http://mailstart.com Webbox uses 6 "alias" names for thier domain name. webbox.com, mailstart.com, mailstartplus.com, wowgirl.com, 420247.com and wowguy.com Any of these may all be chosen as the domain name when setting up an eMail account at webbox. - -- Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:51:27 +0000 From: "Michael L. Dawley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Video Setup Hello all, The new Arachne 1.60b1 allows several valid choices for the video setup, unlike 1.50, which required you to know what video you have installed on your box, or Arachne would perhaps crash. I have an Evergreen Technologies ETDIAG disk, that allowed me to (in some cases) to see my video setup, and between that and MSD, could make better choices during 1.60b1 video setup. On the first go around, before using ETDIAG, I setup Arachne, and was not entirely happy with the video quality. Did the setup again, and wound up with outstanding (for this box) video quality in Arachne. Setup in Arachne 1.60b1 is really a big improvement over 1.50, and in it's mandate to get you up and running can allow you to setup a video combination that is less than what you might get otherwise. Trying other combinations doesn't hurt, and if you have an image to use for comparison in your recent history, your results will be immediately obvious. Thanks, Michael L. Dawley Pearl, Mississippi - -- IBM PS/1 486SX-25 with 32MB RAM -- - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:05:25 -0800 (PST) From: Howard Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PKTXCODE.EXE Try uudvd05d.zip as a decoder. it seems to be smarter than both mpack and metamail and lets you pic viewers of your choice on the fly if you want to. ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/decode/uudvd05d.zip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 20:31:55 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT: copying one HDD to another L.D., Expanding on Bernie's suggestion of using two computers, DR-DOS has a program, FILELINK, that can be used to transfer files from one computer to another. When I decided to transfer this computer from my office (where I rarely used it) to my home, I copied all the files from the computer that would remain in the office to this one. Although FILELINK documentation says that it will *not* create directories or subdirectories, it *does*! PowerQuest, the makers of PartitionMagic, has two programs for copying hard drives, DRIVECOPY, and DRIVEIMAGE, IIRC. I would be very hesitant to use any program that creates an image of one drive onto an new drive. (What if the new drive has bad clusters where the old drive didn't?) Hope this helps. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona Bernie wrote: >>l.d wrote: >Anyone have any ideas about other software that can take over the >naming/recognition of drives during a major copy of one HDD to another? If you want to move the files then you can do that (as long as z: is free). You'll need to change your partition table (fdisk) after each drive is copied, and reboot and so. It works (and is rather easy), just make sure you don't accidently remove the incorrect drive, I lost ca 200-300MB of data which I don't even know what it was (so no big loss anyway <G>). Another sollution is if you have two computer (and a network) is to set up Personal NetWare and copy everything from one computer to the other. However there's a limit in how many files this will copy (or perhaps with DR-DOS xcopy) so it might not work (didn't work well for me and I instead tried the above idea I got instead).<< ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 11:57:47 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: telnet to fix sick pop3 account On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:15:20 -0500 (EST), Thomas Mueller wrote: > If some ISPs don't permit their subscribers to access POP3 server by telnet, > then how, at the low level, is a POP3 server accessed? How does Insight, > Eudora, Outlook Express, Pine, Mutt, etc, access the POP3 (and SMTP) server? For sending outgoing mail and for retrieving incoming mail there is no problem with my ISP in using Insight, Mailman, NetMail DOS 2.12, SMTPOP.EXE, NetTamer, and the Barebones DOS email system. Also, the built-in "mailto:" program that comes with Bobcat/Lynx works just fine for sending outgoing mail. I used to use Micro$oft Outlook on my Window$ machine, but have discontinued using it because this software is very poorly designed, bloated, lacking in security, and easily attacked by virri. With any Window$ email client, the mere opening of an attachment can result in horrible consequences. Not so with DOS email clients, because an attachment having executable code simply cannot be "run" merely by clicking on it. Any email program that supports this kind of behavior with attachments is very poorly designed indeed, IMHO. Consider that this major bug has persisted for many years in the way Window$ handles email attachments. Bill Gates, with all his resources, has so far failed to develop a patch to fix this problem. He obviously doesn't care about what is in the best interests of the consumers who use his products. King Michael on the other hand is sympathetic, and he listens even to the most minor and insignificant complaints about the performance of Arachne. He always wants to change whatever is wrong, although it might take him quite a while to get around to squashing the very minor bugs. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:00:37 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: VGA bug Glenn McCorkle wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:01:57 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote: > > > I also discovered that 640x480 has a function that is not available in other > > resolutions. <G> There is NO fullscreen mode in the higher resolutions !! > > Sure there is.... hit "*" key on your keyboard. > (try the "k" key once in a while also)<g> Yeah sure. There's so much there I can't remember WHAT I saw last time.<g> I assumed that since the F5 key didn't put the higher res's into fullscreen that nothing else would - and I can't try it now because I don't have the monitor. I guess I'll have to take your word for it. <G> I was going to see if using "*" to set fullscreen would make it "stick" when reading and trashing mail but there seem to have been some changes !! Where did the "Move" and "Trash" buttons in the mailreader go ?? - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 23:14:04 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: http://webbox.com/ On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:55:50 -0400, L.D. Best wrote: > Sam, > I don't think anything dire was planned when webbox asked for your > password. I use the older www.startmail.com to access my e-mail on my > ISP via the web; to do that both username and password are required. > Webbox offers, somewhere, the ability to access up to 5 e-mail accounts; > the first one would have been the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > So far, having used www.mailstart.com for a couple of months or so, I've > had no bad repercussions from providing my e-dress & password. I > haven't gotten any nasty letters accusing me of spamming or anything > like that. <G> I actually checked my mail using webbox yesterday ... > all I had to do was re-enter my password, since I'd logged off of > mailstart prior to switching over to webbox. > So I don't think providing the password should cause any problems; > neither username or password are saved, or I wouldn't have to enter the > data each time ... a cookie would tweak an automagic feed, right?? > l.d. Yes, L.D., one might think that a cookie might tweak an automagic feed if the password were saved my means of cookies. The problem is that we really don't know whether the data were saved. There are many methods by which data may be saved without resorting to cookies. Because of a tendency in most of us to want to be trusting of others, we really do want to trust the website. Sam Heywood P.S. Has anyone noticed that Michael has inserted the following kernel of wisdom into one of his pages in Arachne 1.60 :"Just because you're paranoid doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't really out to get you."? <snip> - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:37:45 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/ On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:11:48 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > This is a forward of the test message sent to > my account at webbox.... > |--- Original Message --- > |From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Date: 1/23/00 8:34:21 PM > | > |On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 00:23:12 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: > | > |> Hello Arachnids: > | > |> I checked out the site and my first impression was that it > is a real good > |> thing. I decided to sign up. As I was entering my information > on the form, > |> I came to a block that requested my private password for my > email account > |> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Why should any one other than myself > need to know > |> that kind of information? My last impression was that it > was a bad thing. > |> So I abruptly aborted the sign up procedure and got out of > there in a hurry! > | > | That's exactly the reaction I had. > |If I supply them with my username/password. They can now read > every > |message sent to me. (d/l every message but leave on server) > | > |You might ask: Why would they _want_ to do this??? > | > |If they see what other kinds of advertisement emails I'm already > getting. > |They'll know what my interests are and then know what other > ads to send. > | > |NO THANK YOU, WEBBOX. I'll keep my password to myself !!! > | > |BTW, I tried several times to setup an eMail account with them. > |Every time the attempt failed. > |"Please try again later". Was all that it would say. > | > | Update: > | > |It finally worked. > | You can now send eMail to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > |Use of Arachne for all Email manipulation functions seems to > |be working. > | > |But, file uploads to "WebBox" require html upload capability. > |(file attachments to eMails also) > |So for now, we won't be able to use Arachne for those features. > | > |--- End Original Message --- > You may access files for download here.... > http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > Testfile.zip contains the "Arachne-saved" text from > http://browserwatch.internet.com/news/story/news-20000119-8.html > Before saving a file D/Led, you'll need to delete all but the last 8.3 > from the file name. > -- > Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > North Jackson, Ohio, USA > Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS > Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. > http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ Hello Glenn: I don't understand. Do you mean to say that you somehow succeeded in setting up an account at webbox without your having to give them the password you normally use for accessing your ISP account and your email servers at your ISP? Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 22:33:52 -0600 From: Wes Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: BUG list "Gregory J. Feig" wrote: > > Wes ..............I don't think it is a bug.....I have 13 APMs installed > and I just went and F10, list all installed packages, and saw them all > .....I have an minimalist box, so unless your's is less than an old > 486dlc40 with 32Mbytes ram, you have a "tweaking" problem to do... > > ..........gregy Ok, yeah I found something strange with the memory settings.. I can get it to work if I increase buffers in config.sys to the point where arachne shows less conventional memory, then it starts working. Kind of strange but at least I can experiment with it. If nobody else is having any problems I'll not worry about giving further details about it unless requested. Thanks, Wes ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 21:26:10 -0800 (PST) From: Howard Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Are my messages getting through? I think I just realized a fact perhaps well known to the rest of you. Ever so often I send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], but I never see my own message on the digest which I get. There are at least 2 possibilities: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not just sets of messages from the arachne listserv, as normal. Arachne-digest acts as a completely separate list. So if I want a message to get the the readers of arachne-digest, I have to send it to the digest, not just to arachne. Is this true? Alternatively, I know some listservs have options which do not sent one's own posts back to one. But I doubt that this is what is happening. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 01:44:29 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson) Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/ Glenn McCorkle wrote: > <big snip> > You may access files for download here.... >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > Testfile.zip contains the "Arachne-saved" text from >http://browserwatch.internet.com/news/story/news-20000119-8.html > > Before saving a file D/Led, you'll need to delete all but the last 8.3 >from the file name. > >-- >Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >North Jackson, Ohio, USA > Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS > Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. > http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/ Hi Glenn, I tried to download Testfile at Webbox and was not successful. I got "bad URL" page instead. Eric - -- __________ | Ayrx |__\_ Eric S. Emerson | :~_: ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] `~(*)~~~~(*)~' ````````````````````````` ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 09:03:26 +0000 From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: More bugs in V1.6 Having further exercised Arachne V1.6, I have found a few more items of concern: 1. Some body (or bodies) has already pointed out that 'back' won't ALWAYS remember the correct position in the previous page. I have noticed today that this seems to be connected with the 'Adjusting frames & tables' process. On a text-only page, 'back' will go back to the correct place. If the page to go back to has a requirement for 'Adjusting frames (etc.)', then the correct place is reached when the page initially shows on the screen. Then 'Adjusting...' happens, after which you are back at the top of the page. 2. HISTORY problem - when clicking on the 'three bars' at the right- hand end of the URL line to get the history list, for some reason the most recently visited places are NOT at the top of the list, but somewhere in the middle. Notice the position of the vertical scroll bar to check this. 3. Sometimes, going back to a page results in it being downloaded AGAIN from the wire, rather than fetching from the cache, even when it is a simple, unatlered page which I was viewing just a minute previously. Anyone else noticed this? Could this also be a history problem?? 4. This probably isn't a bug, but oh is it ANNOYING!!! I'd written a longish message yesterday and went to press 'page-up' to see what I'd written. For some reason, the message from the brain went to the left hand, which pressed 'escape' - no, I don't know why, either! When I clicked on 'forwards' to go back to my message, there was a perfectly blank mesage form. I immediately came out and looked in the directory for the MAIL.TMP file, which I thought would have contained the text. Totally vanished. Talk about enough to make a saint swear.... Couldn't text be saved when the screen changes? Please?? Despite the problems noticed, I still think that the latest version is a very worthwhile step and also worth the wait. Keep up the good work, team!! Ron. - -- Edenyard ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 08:40:17 +0000 From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Bugs in V1.6 Today, Clarence Verge wrote: > Bug 5 interests me because I would like to have some way to scroll small amounts > but that function has never existed as far as I know. Unless it is virtual > screen > mode - I don't use that because it slows things down too much. > Maybe you were using the "Netscape Compatibility Mode". Check the hotkey map. > This mode requires virtual screens - and you may have turned this off. > > Then Guenter Bietzig wrote: > for me the 'small scrolling' with up/down arrows works fine in 1.60 > without virtual screens and "Netscape Compatibility Mode" enabled. > Well done! Stupid me (again). Having just read your messages, I went back to the 'Look & Feel' options page and put a X in the Netscape box, saved, selected 'use new' and there it was - arrows work perfectly! I obvoiously never realised what the 'Netscape' box did before. Thanks for your help, chaps!! Ron. - -- Edenyard ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 0 00:35:09 PST From: "Csaba Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ppp DOWN Dear Glenn, On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 04:57:48 +0100, Glenn McCorkle wrote: >> I have boght a new (at least new for ME ;-) computer and >> I can't establish PPP connection with the _epppd_. > That "new computer" might have a win-modem installed. I have noooooooo win-modem!!! Mr. McCorkle, please, name your duel-assistants! ;-) > If it is a win-modem, you'll need to get a real-modem. > (or you'll be stuck with windows for the rest of your life)<grin> hmmm...I see the duel is unavoidable... ;-) By the way, the "new computer" means an IBM 6x86 processor with a new mainboard. I use my old modem (56k external GVC). I have no problem in terminal mode, the manual authentication is OK, but when I turn to PPP mode, presently the connection is cut off. Best regards, Csaba [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #966 *****************************
