arachne-digest Tuesday, January 25 2000 Volume 01 : Number 968
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 01:41:47
From: Torben Joergensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A new (old) bug in Arachne
Hi, everyone!
I know this is a bit late now the new beta2 is on the doorstep, but please
listen to this:
If I klick on "All files" (from desktop) and then the directory "Examples",
and then klick on the "Image gallery" botton, I see the two gif's, but the
jpg is not showing. I get the line: "bio.jpg (converted, original size
11801 bytes) and just below a box with the word "IMAGE".
If in a directory with one or more jpg's, I have to select one of them to
view, and this works. (Picture converted and shown on a new page). _Now_
when returning to the gallery, Arachne shows _this_ picture and converts
and show the rest of the pictures. If I don't do it this way, I only have
the gif's shown.
I get this result in all the versions of Arachne, I have tried, and on all
my machines - except 150src. In 150src the "bio.jpg" is converted and shown
imediate.
I only have this bug from the "Image gallery". There are no errors when
looking at a WEB-page (online or offline) with jpg's! They are converted
and shown as they should be.
The 150src is the only version I have been sucessfully connected to my ISP.
...and no, I didn't give 160b1 a try online, when I saw this fault had
returned.
Am I the only one here with this bug? :-(
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Yours sincerely,
Torben Joergensen, Oestermarie, Denmark.
Computing power does not derive from the machine, but HOW you use it!
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:46:12 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT...TCP/IP stack, where...?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 08:39:15 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> All.......
> .......I hate to ask this question on this list, BUT....I need a
> TCP/IP stack to work with MSDOS6.22 and WIN3.11.....and Netscape
> Nav/Com latest downloads.....
> .......Does anyone have a good URL, preferably FTP.......????
I'm sorry to say: No such item exists. The "latest download" you are
refering to is for W95/98/NT only. It will not run in W3.11
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Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:33:48 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xx_xx_xx.ah files
Gregory J. Feig wrote:
>
> All.....just to show you my ignorance....I just had a guy over on
> the chat post his ".ah pages, so I could look at them....well, of
> course, when I pulled them up on my box....they looked beautiful
> and all filled in with my own information/preferences......what I
> need to get are his files that fill those .ah pages in....so, what
> files to I need to have him post......????
Hi Gregy;
The only file that normally varies (except arachne.pck which is binary) is
Arachne.cfg. You can, of course, modify the .ah pages (arachne hazard ?) to
customize your local interface.
That's the beauty of Arachne. Almost unlimited customizability.
It also can be a curse. I change the pages to the way I like them and hizzoner
changes the directory structure so I'm back to square one. <g>
Hey, has anyone else lost the move and trash buttons in the mailreader ?
- - Clarence Verge
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- - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:56:34 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne for a newbie?
Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> sorry about my posting about this list being like a cult. I meant it as a
> joke, but my jokes often get OT :-)
Hi Charles;
Never any need to apologize for speaking the truth.
Or were you afraid someone in the high priest's office was going to stick pins
in your e-mail for bring this fact to the attention of the uninitiated ?
> I've installed arachne on a refurbished computer to put my in-laws on
> e-mail. They are in their 70s and they've hardly ever used a computer
> before. Last week my father-in-law tried to ask for any Arachne
> manual/self-help tutorial in a bookshop... Now I've got some news for you:
> there aren't any Arachne for dummies for sale in bookshops ;)
Ohboy. I've been there and it's a bad place. The best thing (IMHO) that you
can do for them if email is all that's required right now is to automate it
for them. They turn it on and it goes and gets the mailand then goes right to
the inbox. Hit reply to answer or "c" to compose a new letter.
> Question is, has any of you got some basic howtos for Arachne that I could
> print and pass on? Also, my in-laws wouldn't like to receive all the
> e-mails on this list but how would you react if they sent a question to it,
> hoping for help on their address?
No problem here. I think some email back and forth might help them feel more
comfortable with the computer. But then when this gets to be natural they ask
"But what else can I do with it ?" Then you show them search engines.<g>
- - Clarence Verge
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- - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:08:58 +0200
From: Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: stub 32 - big question
Is it possible to run stub 32 and
make connection with Arachne to server,
launched at same computer ?
Server is OmniHTTPd for Win 95.
I trying it for accessing long filenames under DOS.
But i can't connect to this server with Arachne.
Did somebody try stub32 either ? I can't understand
how it work.
Or maibe stub 32 not intended for this either ?
If so, how to setup tcp/ip at localhost without
connecting to LAN or dial-up ?
I do not need connection to Internet, but i need TCP/IP.
Sound strange... But i am strange person.
Arachne gurus, help needed.
Sergie
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:08:50 +0200
From: Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PocketArachne
"Gregory J. Feig" wrote:
> > To make ONE diskmaker for ALL users is a real challenge. I would never make
> > assumptions about the user's operating system or configuration or even their
> > path, for instance. How do we create config.sys and autoexec.bat that takes
> > into account the users' choices for memory managers and caching software ?
>
> > I'll probably be still thinking about it after the interest has disappeared.<G>
OK. I born this discussion, seems like i should to kill it.
I am really do not understand what is problem with different
configurations.
There is no any problem.
All that user must have, that's enough RAM for ram disk.
Everything else should not matter.
If Arachne runs only in memory, and we don't need
any stackers, dblspaces and so on, what's problem.?
User's dos transferred to floppy with sys, it must exist in
any dos packages. And we do not need to care about memory
managers and caching software, cos when user booted from
disk with Arachne it do not need them anyway.
BTW i now trying to fit Arachne into ROM.
And perspectives good enough with 2MB Flash.
I need it for my phonemail/mp3_player box.
p.s. I hate my illiteral english. But i do not have time to
learn grammatics. Sorry.
Sergie
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:43:08 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:58:06 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
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> Of course that make sense, gregy. However, I didn't want webbox to have
> the capability of getting my mail off my primary mailserver. I had wanted
> to set up an account there in order to have an upload/download site for my
> own stuff. They don't need to know my password in order for me to do that.
Sam ........YES..!!! and you didn't hear me say that I had let Yahoo
do that to me, either......<vbg>
.........gregy
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:18:11 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fixed font
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:46:49 +0300, Vasily Zatsepin wrote:
> Hi all,
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 10:55:36 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> When I select fixed font in Arachne 1.60b1, than I can't see what I type.
>> (looks like black ink on black paper fontcolor is green)
>> It worked just great in 1.50src.
> <skip>
> It's not a bug but a feature due to Michael's decision to use only
> 8x14.FNT as system font (may be due to some memory problem ?).
> But the decision exclude using AltSysFont option in languges others than
> English. So I can say that 1.60 beta 1 is just unusable (for me at
> least).
Vasily ......maybe this is the problem Vlad is reporting over on the
chat....he is Russian and maybe it is just a font thing, and he will
need to go back to 1.50src.....do think that is so...???
..........gregy
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 19:30:40 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hotmail.com probs
Thanks. I guess that would explain why when I tried to access it
through msn.com, the comuter crashed on me with some message
that I can't remember.
By the way, is there a list somewhere of popular sites that will not
work with Arachne?
Thanks,
Matt
On 24 Jan 00, at 15:17, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:39:27 +0000, Matt Bahls wrote:
>
> > Hello all,
> > Well, I followed all the wonderful advice given and I now can use
> > Arachne perfectly. Now I have another question. When I try to go
> > to www.hotmail.com, it brings up a page called TopList that is in
> > Czech. Why won't it go to hotmail.com with that URL? It does on any
> > other browser.
>
> > Well, that's my question for now.
>
> > Thanks again for all the advice and thanks for the warm welcome to
> > the list,
>
> Hello Matt:
>
> I don't know why you were re-directed to a different web-site.
> However, I do know that Arachne hasn't been able to use
> "www.hotmail.com" ever since the site was bought out by Micro$oft
> about two years ago. Before Micro$oft messed things up, Hotmail used
> to work just fine with Arachne and even with text-browsers such as
> NetTamer and DOS-LYNX.
>
> Sam Heywood
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> Client
>
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:35:10 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PocketArachne
On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:08:50 +0200, Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All that user must have, that's enough RAM for ram disk.
> Everything else should not matter.
> If Arachne runs only in memory, and we don't need
> any stackers, dblspaces and so on, what's problem.?
> User's dos transferred to floppy with sys, it must exist in
> any dos packages. And we do not need to care about memory
> managers and caching software, cos when user booted from
> disk with Arachne it do not need them anyway.
Yea...thank you....
> p.s. I hate my illiteral english. But i do not have time to
> learn grammatics. Sorry.
Sergie ....what..???...looks pretty literal english, to me...
I understood everything you said...
gregy
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:06:22 +0000
From: rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: copying one HDD to another
Hi All,
If you have/use M$ DOS 6.22 (not sure how many ver. this goes back) you
can use Interlnk/Intersvr for file transfer ... as I recall (last time I
used this scenario) I had to 1st create the directory(s) I needed to
"save in / transfer to" on the appropriate HDD.
There is a shareware prog called "Fast PC Linker" that negates the
above "directory creation" process & works very well ... I have used it
several times. There is something like 10-15 transfers you can do for
free before registering (I'm almost done with my free trial). Neat prog.
HTH.
later,
rick
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:10:16 +0100
From: Hans-Juergen Bardenhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PKTXCODE.EXE
Hi Thomas (and Sam),
on Sunday, 23.01.00 you wrote:
TM> I too would like to see the program (German OK). Now I have MPACK,
TM> which can separate and decode base64 but leaves quoted-printable as
TM> is. METAMAIL seems less capable than MPACK.
First the good news: PKTXCODE is available in english, the address
of Ulrich Mueller is (or at least has been):
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PktXCode v1.23g
Universeller Dekodierer f�r Mailpakete
(c) by Ulrich M�ller, 1996-98
======================================
Ulrich M�ller, Amselweg 49, D-53844 Troisdorf
Tel.: 02241-401481 (am besten abends ab ca. 18:00 Uhr)
E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fido: Ulrich Mueller@2:2453/20.20
6.2 Bezugsquellen f�r neue Versionen (where to look for new
versions - but in the documentation he states that he won't
develop it any further except for fixing bugs):
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[..]
- im WWW auf meiner Homepage:
http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzsv20
- per File-Request im Fido-Netz:
ProBit BBS Bonn Line 1/2: 2:2453/20 V.34 28.800 bps
Line 3/4: 2:2453/21 ISDN 64.000 bps
Magic "PKTXCODE" f�r die aktuelle (deutschsprachige) Version,
*Magic "PKTX-ENG" f�r die aktuelle englischsprachige Version.*
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His decoder requires machines with at least these specifications:
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6.1 Systemanforderungen
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PktXCode ben�tigt die folgenden Systemvoraussetzungen:
- DOS ab 3.3 oder OS/2 ab 3.0
- ca. 500 kb freien Arbeitsspeicher (RAM)
- sechs freie Dateihandles (vgl. "FILES="-Eintrag in der CONFIG.SYS)
- 80286-kompatibler Prozessor f�r die DOS-Version,
80386-kompatibler Prozessor f�r die OS/2-Version
Empfohlen (recommended):
- schnelle Festplatte (fast HDD)
- gro�er (Software-) Cache f�r die Festplatte (1 MB oder gr��er)
- mehrere MB freier Speicher (DOS: XMS-Speicher)
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OK, now for the bad news: It can't do everything, that is separating
MIME messages into their separate parts and show them in the correct
way. But it can find the encoded parts of a file attachment by
itself and automate the process of decoding it and building up a
database with all decoded file attachments you ever got (in case your
newsreader isn't able to do this by himself).
It detects the following methods of encoding files and can decode
them without further help and make one file even from divided mails
due to the oversized length of the attachment (at least that's what
Ulrich says):
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1. Einleitung - Wof�r braucht man PktXCode? (Why PktXCode?)
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[...]
PktXCode...
- dekodiert Dateien im UUENCODE, XXENCODE, BASE64 und BINHEX-Format
(self-explaining...)
- erkennt zusammengeh�rige Nachrichten unabh�ngig von ihrer
Reihenfolge anhand vom Betreff, UUENCODE-Splitzeilen oder Markie-
rungen gem�� Fido-FSC-0047 Definition
(order of separate parts doesn't matter because of its ability to recognize
the correct sequence with these methods)
- erkennt, ob alle Teile einer Datei vorhanden sind, die auf mehrere
Nachrichten verteilt sind
(checks the completeness of a file when divided into several parts)
- speichert Teile von unvollst�ndigen Dateien in einer Datenbank
(stores parts of incomplete files in a database)
- stellt umfangreiche Funktionen zur Wartung der Datenbank zur
Verf�gung
(many functions to maintain that database)
[...]
Und noch eines:
PktXCode ist F R E E W A R E !
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... und wech... am Montag, den 24.01.00 um 20:33...
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## CrossPoint v3.11 ##
* ZQWKPro v1.2 [unregistered]
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 04:22:36 +0200
From: Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The bios source
Rebel wrote:
> Hi
>
> Hope you didn't forget about me and the bios source? :-))
>
> Rebel
Rebel,
i hope you know that there is no same bioses.
First bioes was developed by Award, and then with reverce
engeneering Ami create their own. (Maybe Ami then Award...)
So sources not same. Also what kind of bios - 386? 486?
Pentium? PII? Athlon ? They all differs.
I can dump PROM for you. If you know assembler good enough.
Sergie
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:47:30 +0000
From: rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: interesting phenomonem with 1.6
So with 1.5src on my main puter (400AMD / 128mb ) I could run from a DOS
window no prob (under WINcrap95).
So with (new "upgrade" to WINbloat98) if I try to run ARACHNE from a DOS
box I get an "out of memory" message" & she won't load. If I boot F8 &
chose "DOS prompt" ... run ARACHNE ... she runs GREAT.
note: I have not tried to change any settings, just running stock
setups.
Just thought that was interesting, under WIN$hit95 I did not specify any
tweaky settings but ARACHNE ran great. WIN98 is about what I expected
... more bloat but it does run 32-bit progs more efficiently <g>.
Hoping for LINUX (or BEOS) ports to progs I need to use. Am on the
FreeBEOS list, ...
later,
rick
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:38:58 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: copying one HDD to another
Rick,
Are you going to download another copy now? <G>
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
Rick wrote:
>>There is a shareware prog called "Fast PC Linker" that negates the
above "directory creation" process & works very well ... I have used it
several times. There is something like 10-15 transfers you can do for
free before registering (I'm almost done with my free trial). <<
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:38:49 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Arachne for a newbie?
Charles,
Tell your in-laws that age is not a factor in using computers. I am 66 years
old and I know others that are older than I am that use computers (and
probably a lot better, too).
Your in-laws could probably get "Internet for Dummies." While that has
nothing to do with Arachne, it will describe how sites are named (domain
names) and the various things that are available with a computer.
I described e-mail addresses to a friend as being something like a telephone
number --- the part before the "@" is similar to a telephone number and the
part after the "@" is like an area code. However, unlike a telephone number,
both the number and the area code have to be used at all times. If you make
an error when dialing a telephone, you will get a wrong number; if you make
an error sending an e-mail, it will go to the wrong person, or be returned if
there is no address that matches. Hopefully the person that receives an
incorrectly addressed e-mail will return it.
As far as using Arachne, I think that a hands on demonstration (slowly) would
probably be best. After getting them to power-up a computer and execute
some programs (a word processor would probably be a good start), get them to
log onto the WWW, go to Yahoo.com, go to some other site that they would be
interested in. When they get comfortable with that, then introduce them to
e-mail. I put it in this order so that they won't try e-mail first and
inadvertently end up on the web at some XXXX-rated sex site <G>.
Once they get to using the computer, they'll really like it. Communication
by e-mail is, IMO, better than telephoning --- you don't have to worry about
interrupting anyone, and you say what you want to say and send it.
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
Charles Boisvert wrote:
>>Hello all,
sorry about my posting about this list being like a cult. I meant it as a
joke, but my jokes often get OT :-)
I've installed arachne on a refurbished computer to put my in-laws on
e-mail. They are in their 70s and they've hardly ever used a computer
before. Last week my father-in-law tried to ask for any Arachne
manual/self-help tutorial in a bookshop... Now I've got some news for you:
there aren't any Arachne for dummies for sale in bookshops ;)
Question is, has any of you got some basic howtos for Arachne that I could
print and pass on? Also, my in-laws wouldn't like to receive all the
e-mails on this list but how would you react if they sent a question to it,
hoping for help on their address?<<
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:59:41 -0600 (CST)
From: "Herbert D. Valliant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NEWBIE SUCCESS
2000/01/24
Hi All
I finally made it!!
In the beginning I could not get the dialer to dial. I finally realized that
you cannot accept the default com port addresses for ports 2/4. Once I typed
in the default address as a special address I was away and running.
It runs pretty slow on my machine, only 2Mb RAM, but that will be good
incentive to load up with more memory.
Cheers All
Herb Valliant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:58:34 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PocketArachne
Sergie wrote:
>
> > > To make ONE diskmaker for ALL users is a real challenge. I would never make
> > > assumptions about the user's operating system or configuration or even their
> > > path, for instance. How do we create config.sys and autoexec.bat that takes
> > > into account the users' choices for memory managers and caching software ?
> >
> > > I'll probably be still thinking about it after the interest has
> > > disappeared.<G>
>
> OK. I born this discussion, seems like i should to kill it.
> I am really do not understand what is problem with different
> configurations.
> There is no any problem.
> All that user must have, that's enough RAM for ram disk.
> Everything else should not matter.
> If Arachne runs only in memory, and we don't need
> any stackers, dblspaces and so on, what's problem.?
> User's dos transferred to floppy with sys, it must exist in
> any dos packages. And we do not need to care about memory
> managers and caching software, cos when user booted from
> disk with Arachne it do not need them anyway.
Hi Sergei;
Yes we DO care about memory managers and caching software and ramdisk drivers
and THAT'S where it gets complicated. You can't boot and RUN Arachne from floppy
without that stuff. Well, if it's 100% on ramdisk maybe we can lose the caching
software but that would have speeded up the boot process and might be useful for
copying some stuff back to floppy.
If you just want to LOAD arachne from a floppy onto your OWN system then it's
no problem. If you want to make a portable and bootable floppy with Arachne on
it and you are going to manually write your own boot config.sys and autoexec
and then manually determine what might work in the other computer when you get
there then it's no problem.
If you want something universal then there is some complication.
- - Clarence Verge
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- - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:42:17 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger)
Subject: Re: Is it possible to set up a DOS machine as an FTP server?
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Do any of you know if it is possible to set up a DOS machine to act as
>an FTP server? If such is at all possible, I suppose it would involve
>setting up your DOS operating system with multi-tasking abilities.
>
>Does anyone know about this?
I have recently experimented a bit with this using NCSA Telnet
(ftp server mode) and KA9Q (Demon or UKA_PPP) both running on
top of epppd packet driver. I first tested it over PPP (null
modem cable) from Linux, then online. It seems to work, but
without a dedicated connection or domain, I don't really have
a practical use for it.
Howard Eisenberger
Ottawa
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... DOS TCP/IP * <URL:http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:14:39 +0200
From: Sergie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PocketArachne
Clarence Verge wrote:
>
> Hi Sergei;
>
> Yes we DO care about memory managers and caching software and ramdisk drivers
> and THAT'S where it gets complicated. You can't boot and RUN Arachne from floppy
> without that stuff. Well, if it's 100% on ramdisk maybe we can lose the caching
> software but that would have speeded up the boot process and might be useful for
> copying some stuff back to floppy.
Maybe you right. But i still disagree.
Sergie
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:18:17 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: URL for specs on more than 5300 hard drives, 1500 controllers
Hi Folks:
Finally found what nearly everyone is looking for. Go here:
http://www.pc-disk.de/pcdisk.htm
"5300 old and new hard disks....1500 controllers....Layouts! ......
Jumpers! ..... Installations!.....Utilities......FAQS......Links"
Sam Heywood
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:28:15 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/
On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:43:08 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:58:06 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> -----------snip------------
>> Of course that make sense, gregy. However, I didn't want webbox to have
>> the capability of getting my mail off my primary mailserver. I had wanted
>> to set up an account there in order to have an upload/download site for my
>> own stuff. They don't need to know my password in order for me to do that.
> Sam ........YES..!!! and you didn't hear me say that I had let Yahoo
> do that to me, either......<vbg>
> ..........gregy
Alright, I didn't hear you say that. BTW, tonight I was successful in
establishing an account at webbox without having to divulge my password for
my account at "shentel.net". Glenn McCorkcle also did the same. They ask
for your password, but you don't have to give it to them.
Sam
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:09:13 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne for a newbie?
Roger Turk wrote:
>I described e-mail addresses to a friend as being something like a telephone
>number --- the part before the "@" is similar to a telephone number and the
>part after the "@" is like an area code. However, unlike a telephone
number,
>both the number and the area code have to be used at all times.
If you are sending mail to sonmeone that is on the same server you will not
need the part after the @ (or the @ itself IIRC).
I used this a few times to send mail to a friend, remembering "chbr" was
much easier than the whole address - even if it the rest was the same as
mine ;)
But if the program you're sending with is checking for common errors this
migth not work. I'll give it a try with Arachne soon...
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 07:48:58 +0000
From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne 1.6b1 on a slow '386
On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:45:54 +0100, Clarence Verge wrote:
> It's pretty easy to see here why testing should be done with a '386.
> A MAJOR portion of ALL times above is due to slow LOCAL processing.
> Arache version 1.6b1 STILL links client side images and verifies images
> TWICE on a re-load. Doing this once only would cut a whole MINUTE off
> off the above reload times for the Computer Products page.
> It seems to me that version 1.60b1 is SLOWER on local operations.
>
Perhaps someone could explain this to me. Why is it that other graphic
browsers (Opera is the other one I've used most) download a page AND
display it PROPERLY as it comes in, inserting graphics bit by bit as
they arrive?
I'm not ready for that glib "Oh - because it's Windoze" answer. At the
end of the day, windoze programmes are running code on a microprocessor
just like any other programmes. So if they can do it, so can Arachne -
if the code says so!
Clarence is right spot-on here - why does Arachne (any version from
about 1.44) waste so much time doing things more than once? If I
try and download a page that turns out to be, say, 120kB long (e.g.
some sort of stock list or index page), I sometimes wonder whether
Arachne is going to display it before Christmas....
This is definitely one fundamental problem that MUST be fixed
BEFORE any more bells & whistles come along - PLEASE!!!
Ron.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 02:50:42 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson)
Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/
Hi Glenn,
I tried the long address you sent below and
I got the same response. See below:
"The URL you recently followed has expired. Please
return to the referring page and try the link again."
I am not using Arachne to access but the lynx browser
on detroit.freenet.org . Would that cause a problem?
Eric
>Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> You'll need to link to this page...
>http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
>
> And then link to testfile.zip on that page.
>
>This is the "full URL" which will result:
>
>http://public.webbox.com/streamer.asp?ts=
>b267270287274282268280290293314&p=251110&fi=396717&fn=Testfile.zip
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:18:51 +0000
From: "Edenyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: V1.6 History Bug
Dear Michael,
Well done on V1.6 - it's coming on nicely!
I fear that you may have a bit of a problem with the History function
now, though. Several times since trying 1.6, I have been to a site and
successfully viewed the whole page. When coming off-line and then trying
to re-read the page, I'm told that there's no network interface
available, as if Arachne cannot find the page in its cache.
If I exit from Arachne and search through the cache for the file that
contains the page I was viewing on-line, note the file name/number and
then use Desktop in Arachne to view the file, I can see the page
(without images inserted), so I know that the page IS in the cache.
Trying history again (or even the Hotlist, since the page's address is
stored there) still tells me that there isn't a network interface
available.
Possibly related to this is that, when looking at the history list,
the places that I've visited do not seem to be recorded in order.
Usually, the list comes up with the scroll bar NOT at the top. It seems
as though most recent visits are being recorded at random places in the
middle of the list, somehow.
I hope that this information is helpful - drop me a line if you need
any more observation or clues!
All the best,
Ron Ickse.
- -- Edenyard
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