arachne-digest       Wednesday, January 26 2000       Volume 01 : Number 970




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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 03:31:03 +0200
From: "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:18:39 +0100 (CET), Michael Polak wrote:

> But what I need is group of really good ASM coders, authors of those
> fantastic 4 KB and 64 KB demos and intros.

How about contacting some of those demo authors directly?
Some of these demos should come with readme files that should have
etleast abit of info on how to locate these authors..

Btw - I allready spotted some Future Crew past members in credits
of several major-industry computer games. Forgot which, though.

(hint - Pixel did some/lots of the graphics in the good ol' Epic Pinball.)

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:43:51 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New stuff in 1.60b1

On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:57:59 -0400, L.D. Best wrote:

> Jeemonetly, Glenn!

> That's a rewrite of a rewrite! <G>  But I dood it.  Gotta stay on top of
> these things.
> <G>
> l.d.
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2000 16:47:49 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> <snip>
>> Yes, yet another update....<vbg>
>> Use this line in Mime.cfg if you'de like the saved .BMP to always go
>> into your "Download" dir.
>> file/exportbmp.dgi      |[100]COPY _4prt.bmp $w$s>NUL \n del _4prt.bmp

 And here's yet another rewrite of a rewrite of a rewrite...<vbg>
(last one, I promise)<g>

file/exportbmp.dgi        |@call expbmp.bat $s

Place expbmp.bat in your Arachne_main directory

- ---expbmp.bat---
COPY _4prt.bmp drive_letter:\dir_name\%1
DEL _4prt.bmp
- ----------------

 Now any further changes you'de like to make for how it works, can be
made by editing expbmp.bat instead of editing mime.cfg

 Hey, ".DGI" is great!

- --
Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
   http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:52:02 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: arachne-digest V1 #968

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:17:53 +0100 (CET), Michael Polak wrote:


>> By the way, is there a list somewhere of popular sites that will not
>> work with Arachne?

> What about rather building list of popular sites, which *work* with
> Arachne ?!!! :-(

 That list would be so long.......
It would take a life-time to click all the links.<g>


- -- 
Glenn McCorkle mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North Jackson, Ohio, USA
            Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
   Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
   http://home.arachne.cz/ or http://arachne.browser.org/

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:44:25 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Weird Behavior

I went to www.microspeed.com today and experienced some weird behavior that I 
had not experienced before.  Microspeed has brought out a new mini-trackball 
that is easily transportable with laptops and I wanted to see the particulars 
on it.

Microspeed's home page consists of two frames, with the large one on the 
right side of the screen.  I clicked on, "Trackballs" and the frame divided 
into thirds, with the first and last third disappearing and the middle third 
remaining.  The trackball page wrote on the screen, overwriting the middle 
third of the home page.  A BACK ARROW returned me to the home page, and a 
FORWARD ARROW returned me to the trackball page, this time correctly without 
overwriting any part of the home page.  I then clicked on the mini-trackball 
and the same thing happened.  BACK ARROW and FORWARD ARROW again corrected 
the problem.

Has anyone experienced this with any other site?  Also, can someone confirm 
this weird behavior?

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:10:45 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Move and Trash Buttons ?

Hello All;

I've just reviewed the posts re: 1.6b1 and it seems I'm the only one finding
buttons missing from the mail reader. :-((  I've also checked the source of
both pages and they were both created with MailMan 3.5, but for some reason,
beyond me, it has created different HTML in different machines.

The really annoying thing is, on 2 installs of 1.6b1 over 1.50b2, the buttons
are there. On the one machine where I did a new (and default) install, there
are no "Move", "Archive" or "Trash" buttons on the reader screen.  There IS
a different button that I have not seen before: [<<Main Message]  I didn't
use s.r.c. enough to know if this was part of it.

I'm now guessing there might be something left over in the "OLD" directory
structure that Arachne is finding and using to give me my desired pages and
maybe I get the "new" look because that's all that is available.

Does anyone have any ideas for me ?
If it will help I can send screenshots of both styles of the reader pages.

Thanks.
 
- -  Clarence Verge
- --
- -  Help stamp out FATWARE.  As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
- --

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:15:08 -0600
From: Wes Harper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird Behavior

Roger Turk wrote:
> 
> I went to www.microspeed.com today and experienced some weird behavior that I
...
> into thirds, with the first and last third disappearing and the middle third
> remaining.  The trackball page wrote on the screen, overwriting the middle
> third of the home page.  A BACK ARROW returned me to the home page, and a
> FORWARD ARROW returned me to the trackball page, this time correctly without
> overwriting any part of the home page.  I then clicked on the mini-trackball
> and the same thing happened.  BACK ARROW and FORWARD ARROW again corrected
> the problem.
Roger,

Hmm.. I just tried it and navigated all over the site (1.60b1) and had
no problems.. dunno what's up, sorry.

Wes

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:31:57 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

Michael Polak wrote:
>
> I was thinking about what Dave have written on Browserwatch about Arachne,
> and I think he exagerates. Arachne is still too slow and jerky for older
> DOS machines, like old laptops or so.
>
> I am working on Linux port, which should be faster thanks of liner access
> to memory above 1 MB. 32bit DOS port is possible, and should be faster
> too.
>
> But: what about browser written completely in ASM ? I can't do that, I
> must warn you. But I can provide group which would start doing something
> like that with lot of know how. I can make the HTML rendering code of
> Arachne open sourced, like Mozilla is.
>
> But what I need is group of really good ASM coders, authors of those
> fantastic 4 KB and 64 KB demos and intros. They would do the coding of
> new, open sourced (or maybe not, whatever they will like) "Arachne II"
> browser. I think we can use lot of code used in Arachne - WATTCP library,
> for example. What is needed is:
>
> 1) 32bit ASM coding. I can't do that.
> 2) rewriting of my HTML algorithms in pure, optimized ASM
> 3) ultra fast GIF, JPEG and PNG routines, and faster graphics library

Yes, Michael, what those geniuses can do with 4k of ASM code IS fantastic.

BUT almost ANY asm code is dazzling compared to "C" in terms of speed.
Those demos were written in 16 bit code so you can see that 16 bits is
plenty if the code is written in ASM.

32 bits DOES help with the memory management but ASM can add so much speed
to the time sensitive parts of 16 bit Arachne that going to 32 bits would
be unnecessary. (IMHO)

- -  Clarence Verge
- --
- -  Help stamp out FATWARE.  As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/
- --

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:15:05 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off Topic: KAK virus

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:26:40 +0800, J J Young wrote:

<snipped Mr. Youmg's lengthy and highly interesting post concerning the KAK>
<virus, aka the KAKworm, that is being transmitted in HTML mail.           >

In his post Mr. Young's wrote of the havoc being wrought by a virus known as
the KAKworm being carried in HTML mail.  He mentioned instances in which
this virus has been infecting Micro$oft Outlook.  This of course is not very
surprising to hear about, considering all the "features" that have been built
into this very poorly designed bloatware product.

There certainly could not have been any added usefulness in having email
software with a capability to generate an HTML version of an ascii text file.
One does nothing to enhance his powers of communication simply by sending
along with a standard email an HTML version of a text file he has typed.
People who do that are simply a nuissance for taking up the extra bandwidth.

Is it possible for this type of virus to infect also some email software
designed along very sound basic principles, such as we find in Insight,
NetTamer, Barebones, NetMail, and SMTPOP and numerous other email programs
that I've failed to mention?

It surprises me very much that consumers are not abandoning Micro$oft as
fast as they ought to.  If a major automobile manufacturer were to produce
cars that were always suffering major breakdowns, then the spirit of brand
loyalty would dissipate very rapidly.  You would think that consumer behavior
would tend to be the same with other kinds of products as well, but this does
not seem to be the case with computer software.

Sam Heywood

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Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:08:02 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:38:10 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:28:15 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:

> ----------------snip--------

>> Alright, I didn't hear you say that.  BTW, tonight I was successful in
>> establishing an account at webbox without having to divulge my password for
>> my account at "shentel.net".  Glenn McCorkcle also did the same.  They ask
>> for your password, but you don't have to give it to them.

> Sam .......does this mean what L.D. said when introducing this thread..
> ......that we can use this for posting/upload/download long stuff for
> this list, instead of attaching it.....because if this is so, I also
> want such a site, sort of "neutral" ground, where we can go to get
> stuff without cluttering up the list mailings....sort of like the
> thing Jake and Hoody did with the Arachne Chat Archive......
> ..........gregy

Hello folks,

Yes that's what this means if we can get the site to operate and behave
properly for us.  As I said, I did succeed in setting up an account there
but I had a few problems with it.  Probably just a few flukes and bugs.
Tonight I cancelled my account and later will try to establish another
account there by attempting to sign up again.  I don't know whether there is
something wrong with the site, or whether there is just something deficient
with my understanding of how to use the site.  If I can start back up on a
clean slate then everything might be OK.  Hope so.

The site seems to be working OK for Glenn McCorkle.

I think it would be in the interests of all of us to keep reporting on
the performance of webbox and to post info on how we might best use the
site.

All the best,

Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:28:35 +0100
From: "Guenter Bietzig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:18:39 +0100 (CET), Michael Polak wrote:

...
...

> But what I need is group of really good ASM coders, authors of those
> fantastic 4 KB and 64 KB demos and intros. They would do the coding of
> new, open sourced (or maybe not, whatever they will like) "Arachne II"
> browser. I think we can use lot of code used in Arachne - WATTCP library,
> for example. What is needed is:

> 1) 32bit ASM coding. I can't do that.
> 2) rewriting of my HTML algorithms in pure, optimized ASM
> 3) ultra fast GIF, JPEG and PNG routines, and faster graphics library

Hi Michael,
if you can find some more ASM writer I'm with it, to make Arachne the
fastet browser on earth. But we all know: It's not done 'between 
the news and the weatherforecast' ;-)

Regards




Guenter Bietzig, Essen, Germany.  Arachne BUG-,CRASH-,WISH-& LOVElist at:
Arachne Help Page http://home.germany.net/101/124262/gb.htm

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:42:42 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

Clarence wrote:
>BUT almost ANY asm code is dazzling compared to "C" in terms of speed.
>Those demos were written in 16 bit code so you can see that 16 bits is
>plenty if the code is written in ASM.
>
>32 bits DOES help with the memory management but ASM can add so much speed
>to the time sensitive parts of 16 bit Arachne that going to 32 bits would
>be unnecessary. (IMHO)

Still setting a 386 as minimum will speed it up since more CPU registers
are available (and larger - effectivly trippling the ammount of base
registers, I don't however think BC can use these effectvly so there will
only be twice as many).
So, if Arachne is going to be a 386 and up program then I suggest that as a
(very small) start it's atleast compiled using 386 code using the current
code and compiler.

Anyway, a site that has some links to ASM programmers and contests is:
http://www.cybertrails.com/~fys/contest.htm
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:45:53 +0100 (MET)
From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

Michael wrote:
>But: what about browser written completely in ASM ? I can't do that, I
>must warn you. But I can provide group which would start doing something
>like that with lot of know how. I can make the HTML rendering code of
>Arachne open sourced, like Mozilla is. 

But then the code would differ between the versions making improvments in
the HTML rendering slower to reach the ASM version. Might be a problem if
the C/C++ DOS version(s?) are dropped.

>3) ultra fast GIF, JPEG and PNG routines, and faster graphics library

Yes, using 32-bit access to the memmory often give twice as much speed.
//Bernie
http://hem1.passagen.se/bernie/index.htm DOS programs, Star Wars ...

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 01:48:54 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric S. Emerson)
Subject: Re: Arachne works with http://webbox.com/

>
>On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:34:44 -0500 (EST), Glenn McCorkle wrote:
 
ese>> <big snip>
ese>> Hi Glenn,
ese>>     I tried the long address you sent below and
ese>> I got the same response. See below:
ese>>
ese>> "The URL you recently followed has expired. Please
ese>> return to the referring page and try the link again."
ese>>
gmc> That's why I said that you'll need to go here first:
gmc>http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
gmc>
gmc> And _then_ link to the file to download.
gmc>
gmc>That "long address" is generated on-the-fly by "streamer.asp"
gmc>each time the link is made.

Glenn,
      I did it both ways and got the same result! But......
this evening I tried again with the long "on-the-fly" address
since it was in my bookmark file, and it downloaded without
a hitch. Someone changed something!

    Eric  



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             __________
            |  Ayrx |__\_       Eric S. Emerson
            |       :~_: !      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            `~(*)~~~~(*)~'      `````````````````````````    

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:32:02 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 07:45:53 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bernie .....I think some speed-up  can be done ASM coding only the
most time-wasting, computer-intensive stuff, and running it inline
in the C code....at least that would be a start, without going for
a complete revamp and from scratch ASM recoding...
............gregy

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 03:07:12 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ArachAsm

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Michael Polak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> <snip>
>
> I am ready to cooperate with ASM wizards on writing really super-optimized
> web browser. I have learnt lot of HTML rendering tricks which can help
> them - but I need my algorithms to be rewritten in ASM, preferably 386 ASM
> which would directly address memory above 1 MB.
>
> 2) Arachne failed to "recycle" old 386 and 486 machines all over the
> world. Computer industry dropped the prices of new PCs, thanks to many
> Pentium clones (AMD and Cyrix). So there were only few people who really
> felt the need for DOS web browser... I don't like Windows even on Pentium
> II or III, but I must admit that they are usable. Arachne was written
> because Windows were not usable on 386s...
>
> <snip>
>
> But: what about browser written completely in ASM ? I can't do that, I
> must warn you. But I can provide group which would start doing something
> like that with lot of know how. I can make the HTML rendering code of
> Arachne open sourced, like Mozilla is. 
>
> <snip>

Yes Yes Yes.
This is the best news I've heard in a long time.  I have always felt that
the true potential of Arachne lies in such a project and that it could 
prove to be a major milestone in software development.
You mentioned a long time ago that Arachne coded in ASM would be
a great thing, but that it would be too expensive.  An open-sourced
project might attract the necessary talent.  (If I could write ASM, I'd
volunteer in a second)
And there are still plenty of machines that could be easily recycled if
they could run a graphical browser at a decent speed.

Do it!

Binky

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:49:38 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Weird Behavior

On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:44:25 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:

> I went to www.microspeed.com today and experienced some weird behavior that I
> had not experienced before.  Microspeed has brought out a new mini-trackball
> that is easily transportable with laptops and I wanted to see the particulars
> on it.

> Microspeed's home page consists of two frames, with the large one on the
> right side of the screen.  I clicked on, "Trackballs" and the frame divided
> into thirds, with the first and last third disappearing and the middle third
> remaining.  The trackball page wrote on the screen, overwriting the middle
> third of the home page.  A BACK ARROW returned me to the home page, and a
> FORWARD ARROW returned me to the trackball page, this time correctly without
> overwriting any part of the home page.  I then clicked on the mini-trackball
> and the same thing happened.  BACK ARROW and FORWARD ARROW again corrected
> the problem.

> Has anyone experienced this with any other site?  Also, can someone confirm
> this weird behavior?

Yes, some sites are like that.  I have not encountered many of them.  I don't
remember the names of any of them because I don't ever want to visit a site
like that again.

Sam Heywood



> Roger Turk
> Tucson, Arizona  USA

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:51:22 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

Hi

Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 CV> Yes, Michael, what those geniuses can do with 4k of ASM code IS 
 CV> fantastic.
Yes ... definitely ;)

 CV> BUT almost ANY asm code is dazzling compared to "C" in terms of speed.
But 'C' is the 2. fastest possibility.
And it is much easier ported.
Maybe the best solution would be a portable C Arachne with bits and peaces of
ASM Code for time critical parts.

 CV> 32 bits DOES help with the memory management but ASM can add so much 
 CV> speed
 CV> to the time sensitive parts of 16 bit Arachne that going to 32 bits would
 CV> be unnecessary. (IMHO)
You are right, that 16 Bit ASM code is fast.
BUT it doesn't help with the tight memory conditions with 16 bit DOS.
There would be no need for buggy overlays, and copying data from conventional
memory to XMS and vice versa.

All in all Arachne with ASM codeblocks would be great !

 CV> -  Clarence Verge

CU, Ricsi

- -- 
Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.}
- -=> Can I yell "movie" in a crowded firehouse??? <=-

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 06:11:56 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hotmail.com probs

> On Mon, 24 Jan 2000 12:39:27 +0000, Matt Bahls wrote:
> Hello all,
> Well, I followed all the wonderful advice given and I now can use
> Arachne perfectly.  Now I have another question.   When I try to go to
> www.hotmail.com, it brings up a page called TopList that is in Czech.
> Why won't it go to hotmail.com with that URL?  It does on any other
> browser.
> Well, that's my question for now.
> Thanks again for all the advice and thanks for the warm welcome to the
> list,

- -Sam Heywood relpied:
- -Hello Matt:
- -I don't know why you were re-directed to a different web-site.  However,
- -I do know that Arachne hasn't been able to use "www.hotmail.com" ever since
- -the site was bought out by Micro$oft about two years ago.  Before Micro$oft
- -messed things up, Hotmail used to work just fine with Arachne and even with
- -text-browsers such as NetTamer and DOS-LYNX.

I think Hotmail now uses Secure Socket Layers, https://.
Arachne doesn't support that yet. 

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Date: (Nincs d�tum vagy a d�tum �rv�nytelen.)
From: "Csaba Adam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP down

Hi Guenter,

> You use a 'new' motherboard with 686 CPU and a lot of MHz. If your seriell 
> adapter card (if not onboard) is an old one, the 'Speed 115200' may be 
> too fast, only for testing try 9600 or 19200.

The situation is the same. Moreover I tried my old external modem (14.4k). 
I got the same result. 

> After your manual authentication, your ISP sends you something 
> like 'start your PPP protocol' have you pressed 'F7' or 'Ctrl-P' ?

Yes, I get a short message (my IP address, mru=1500...etc.).
And when the "exotic characters" receive, I press <F7>.

> Do you see a short DOS- message that the packet driver is 
> installed/ not installed ?

Yes, I get it. Moreover I see some modem-activity (RD and SD leds),
but after 20 secs the line is cut off, and the ppp_err.ah appears.

Kind regards,
Csaba

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:09:10 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP down

Csaba,

In ARACHNE.CFG try changing "IP_Address PPP" to "IP_Address %MYIP%".  When I 
installed 1.60b1, I, too, failed to connect although I was using the same 
computer and ISP that I had been using all along.  Just making this one 
change resulted in connecting immediately.

Hope this helps.

Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona  USA

Csaba wrote:

>>Hi Guenter,

> You use a 'new' motherboard with 686 CPU and a lot of MHz. If your seriell 
> adapter card (if not onboard) is an old one, the 'Speed 115200' may be 
> too fast, only for testing try 9600 or 19200.

The situation is the same. Moreover I tried my old external modem (14.4k). 
I got the same result. 

> After your manual authentication, your ISP sends you something 
> like 'start your PPP protocol' have you pressed 'F7' or 'Ctrl-P' ?

Yes, I get a short message (my IP address, mru=1500...etc.).
And when the "exotic characters" receive, I press <F7>.

> Do you see a short DOS- message that the packet driver is 
> installed/ not installed ?

Yes, I get it. Moreover I see some modem-activity (RD and SD leds),
but after 20 secs the line is cut off, and the ppp_err.ah appears.

Kind regards,
Csaba<<

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:10:25 +0000
From: "Joerg Bartels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hello! and asking for help (out of topic)

- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

Hello all,

I ask because I know you as kind and competent folks on the
Arachnelist.....I have some problems getting software for a
old ISA framegrabercard (ATI (mach8) video-it!/videobasic).
It's a gift out of the garbage can of a second-hand computerstore 
but so far working. (remember: the price for cards like these was about 400$ 
years ago). The sad thing is that it needs its win31x software for the
graber stuff and ATI is not willing to give me any support. 
(mailing was like slaming into a brick wall).
I also searched the net but whitout any success.
Did somebody know where I can find these old win31x software?
Any help would be great.
Thanks for reading!

Kind Regards


Joerg  

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 10:10:08 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello! and asking for help (out of topic)

On Wed, 26 Jan 2000 15:10:25 +0000, Joerg Bartels wrote:

> Arachnelist.....I have some problems getting software for a
> old ISA framegrabercard (ATI (mach8) video-it!/videobasic).

> Did somebody know where I can find these old win31x software?

Joerg ........are you looking for general Win31 system software,
including drivers, or are you looking for specific ATI drivers...??
.........gregy


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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:24:28 +0000
From: "Flip ter Biecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "exportbmp.dgi"

Hello once again,

Apart from the circumstance that arachne-digest #1000 is due to
appear (time your messages well... I made it in 500, but that was
without announcing), I noticed that <ctrl>P opens a nice screenshot
feature, but that the "export" button in the page that follows uses
a .dgi that is not in mime.cfg.

Furthermore, Why does mail ask for a mail diskette in a: when I choose 
send unsent messages while offline?

(What is a mail diskette?)

(using standard configuration with bootp)

And, before I forget, arachne was out of memory without the bootp, 
with just the minimum input in setup wizard. Free memory before launch:
614Kb. Connection was established, and arachne 150 accessed it through
bootp without problem, as does now 1.60.

Just that, thanks a lot.

Arnhem, Netherlands
Bart Buitinga
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- -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:30:25 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hello! and asking for help (out of topic)

Joerg Bartels wrote:
> 
> -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I ask because I know you as kind and competent folks on the
> Arachnelist.....I have some problems getting software for a
> old ISA framegrabercard (ATI (mach8) video-it!/videobasic).
> It's a gift out of the garbage can of a second-hand computerstore
> but so far working. (remember: the price for cards like these was about 400$
> years ago). The sad thing is that it needs its win31x software for the
> graber stuff and ATI is not willing to give me any support.
> (mailing was like slaming into a brick wall).
> I also searched the net but whitout any success.

Hi Joerg;

Did you try this one ? :
http://www.winsite.com/win3/drivers/video/index.html

No guarantees that they have what you want but there is a lot of ATI stuff there.

And you are right. ATI tech support suxx hard.

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 13:36:57 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ASM challenge

Richard Menedetter wrote:
> 
> All in all Arachne with ASM codeblocks would be great !

Gregy wrote:
>
> I think some speed-up  can be done ASM coding only the
> most time-wasting, computer-intensive stuff, and running it inline
> in the C code...

Hi Richard, Gregy and probably lots others;

We are in 100% agreement here. That is exactly my suggestion to Michael.
Do the video processing in ASM and leave the hard-to-write stuff in "C".

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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:46:40 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "exportbmp.dgi"

Flip ter Biecht wrote:
> 
> Hello once again,
> 
> Apart from the circumstance that arachne-digest #1000 is due to
> appear (time your messages well... I made it in 500, but that was
> without announcing), I noticed that <ctrl>P opens a nice screenshot
> feature, but that the "export" button in the page that follows uses
> a .dgi that is not in mime.cfg.
> 
> Furthermore, Why does mail ask for a mail diskette in a: when I choose
> send unsent messages while offline?

Hello again Bart;

I had one of those problems myself.
I was advised to modify MIME.cfg thusly:
file/exportbmp.dgi      |[100]COPY _4prt.bmp $w$s>NUL \n del _4prt.bmp

The $w tells Arachne to save the file in the download directory.

I chose to replace the $w with .\\EXPORT\\ and manually created an arachne
subdirectory called \EXPORT.

Re: The mail diskette. Michael has added the ability to transfer email by
diskette from machine to machine WHEN OFFLINE.  This is where the problem
stems from.  If you don't ever want to do that, then edit MIME.cfg again.

In the External Internet Protocols section you will find:
external/pop3 
and
external/smtp
Comment them out with a leading semi-colon.

While you are in MIME.cfg, 

file/dosshell.dgi    |@call $e\\system\\dgi\\dosshell.bat $e
Should be:
file/dosshell.dgi    |@call $esystem\\dgi\\dosshell.bat $e

Regards,

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