I saved both pages mentioned below using the Opera browser's
useful ability to "Save with images".

I've only just got around to looking at the source of the second
"Forever-under-construction" page.

The problem is its use of the <td height="n"> attribute, which
Arachne doesn't understand.  I substituted shim-GIFs* of the
heights specified and the page was OK apart from the not quite
equivalent Arachne and Windows font sizing, and the slower
scrolling of the page.

* Shim-GIFs are usually 1x1 pixel transparent GIFs.  The 
document need only call one such GIF, like this:

<img src="shim.gif" height="N" width="n">

Either "N" or "n" (or both) may be omitted depending on your
purpose, though it's better to specify both -- with one value
omitted MSIE3 has problems, even when images aren't loaded.

You can create a rectangular or square blank or colored shim
of any size by using only a tiny GIF image with height and
width attributes. 

Shim-GIFs give precise control over spacing the elements
of a document, but their value is lost if the page is saved
without images by the visitor.  I prefer not to use them.  

Regards,

Jake

... and now (some time) for Openbox.com 


On 17 January 2000  Jorge Alex Ortega O.  wrote:

>i'm triste (sad)
>
>turn on your PC (if you already have it off :D)
>in dos prompt type arachne
>when ready press F3
>type: WWW.OPENBOX.COM
>Wait...
>
>If you doesn't understand anything, it will not only
>because is a 'official spanish' page (many times
>myself doesn't understand this type!) but the screen
>will apears with many thigs over anothers... see by
>yourself... i don't have time to think what is the
>translation to the english of that word :)
>I think that there's some bug in HTML display of
>arachne.... but i don't have time to take a look the
>source code of openbox, so i'dont know  what's
>happen... 
>
>And that's not all my Forever-under-construction page
>will not be dispayed correctly by arachne
>(http://www.geocities.com/neo_haohmaru) have the same
>problem and this have only basic HTML tags...
>
>Another bug to the list.....
>
>Cheers
>
>J.
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