arachne-digest Friday, February 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1002
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:8:47 +0800
From: J J Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf
On 16/02/00 Clarence Verge wrote:
<snip>
>It might be a good idea to put a Honda engine in a Reynard chassis
>to enter an F1 race, but putting a supercharger on a Honda Civic to
>pull a trailer uphill is just silly.
>
>I hope the fractured analogy is amusing to some.
;-) The late Frank Costin, having made his name as aerodynamicist
for Jaguar cars, went on to design the plywood-chassis Marcos
in the early 1960s. Part of the design rationale was to have a car
light enough to return a good performance with a "bog standard"
easily maintained engine.
He also designed a single seat shopping vehicle for "housewives"
to buy on hire-purchase. The "Sparrow" single seat electric vehicle
has just reached these shores from the States, but isn't so affordable.
Jake
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:47:14 +0100 (CET)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
Subject: Trouble with TELNET
Hi
"Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> PS: There is a good free IMAP provider, called www.subdimension.com.
>> But they only provide IMAP, and no SMTP. (so you have to use your
>> ISPs SMTP server to _SEND_ mail)
SH> There is also a very good free IMAP provider at
SH> http://www.telebot.com, aka http://www.telebot.net. With this
SH> provider you can use IMAP both for sending and receiving mail.
IMAP is IMHO only a protocol for RECEIVING Mails ... (like POP3)
SH> Works with Arachne
Arachne does NOT support IMAP (yet) !!
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OK I had a look ... they offer IMAP, POP and Autheticated SMTP.
It would be interesting if SMTP works with Arachne ...
(Arachne can't authenticate IMHO)
SH> The really nice thing about the service is that you can use Arachne.
SHouldn't _ALL_ POP and SMTP servers work with arachne ???
SH> Sam Heywood
CU, Ricsi
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:56:42 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A new option, maybe??
I got an error message today that I'd never gotten before: DISK FULL!
I started hunting for stuff that maybe needed clearing of the HDD. I
hunted here and there, cleaned caches [have 5 caches in 2 different
installations of Arachne], and still only had 1Mb free when I was
finally able to access Arachne.
Sent a mail from low-use profile, and realized only then that I couldn't
remember emptying the trash can. Emptied that trash can. Changed
profiles and emptied trash can for this profile. Suddenly disk space
available jumped from 1Mb to 10Mb ...!!
So, possible new option for consideration:
If trashcan >XMb, empty trash
I could possibly set that up in a batch file with a bit of work; I could
certainly set my batch file to empty ALL the trash cans when I exit
Arachne, like I clear environment now with the s.r.c. installation.
But when I'm in the middle of testing this new version, I'm using a
bare bones batch file to start with so I can keep track of everything.
Just a thought for the future. A refinement might be an additional
message, bell & whistle, on the "Disk Full!" module; have Arachne check
to see how much space is being taken up by trash can, display trash can
usage, and give option to empty trash can -- then check to see if it can
then run with the new disk space available.
l.d.
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Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:03:37 -0400
From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound Blaster 16
Creative has 2 versions of Play.exe on that original website. The
DOS/win3.1 package has play.exe v1.01 ... There is, however another
file for Win95 supposedly but which says it's for DOS boot only ... and
that has version 1.03 of play.exe.
I downloaded the file with the newer version of play. Anyone want's it
sent to them to fool with, contact me private & I'll extract, rezip &
attach to return mail.
l.d.
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:14:18 +0000, Michael L. Dawley wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 21:57:39 +0100 (MET), Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Michael L. Dawley wrote:
>>> However, when I tried to play some of the midi files, Arachne
>>> could not do so.
>> I don't know about sbbasic.exe but Creative have an *extremly* good DOS
>> MIDI program called play.exe perhaps it came along?
>> The reason why I think it's "*extremly* good" is because it is the ONLY
>> MIDI program (for DOS) that works on any of my computers. Now if I had a
>> non-standard card (some "noname", GUS, etc.) then I wouldn't complain. But
>> I only have standard SB16 cards and still none of the other programs work
>> (and I really really would like to get some of them to work since my sister
>> keeps bothering me about the fact that she wants a Kareoke program that's
>> freeware (none such exist for Windows)).
>> //Bernie
>> http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ...
> Bernie,
> I didn't get play.exe in the package. I'll look at the website
> and see if I can find it. How big is play.exe? Is it possible to
> send it to me as an attachment? Right now, I am using plany that
> comes with Arachne. I copied plany.exe to my "sounds" directory,
> and am using .wav files in my .bat files I use to get Arachne
> and Bobcat. Having lots of fun with those .wav files, but
> would like to do the .mid files too.
> Thanks,
> Michael L. Dawley
> Pearl, Mississippi
> -- Compudyne 486DX4-100 --
> DOS 6.22, WIN 98, Arachne 1.60
> -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:03:19
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SB16 and Arachne
Hi Folks,
Sergie wrote:
> MIDI at SB16 ? You kidding. It's awful.
Yes, I know. :(
I have posted on this subject before !
Unless you use Win 3.1 (as I have to do for MIDIs) or have a daughter board,
such as -
> Yamaha 724 have MUCH MORE natural sound, especially with
> XG MIDI standart. And it cost less than SB16.
Not when the SB16 was a donation to an impoverished musician. :)
Before that, I had only an AdLib clone that did not function at all for
me in DOS. When you got nothing, you make do. I started writing MIDI in
Windows 3.1. :(
>> I have a program that came with my Sound Blaster Pro card, PLAYMIDI.
>> If you'd like a copy, let me know and I'll ZIP it to you.
>> I have many other programs for Sound Blaster too.
> Mark,
> I'm using play.exe now and getting satisfactory results. Go ahead
> and .zip playmidi to me and I'll give it a try on the SB16.
> Thanks,
> Michael L. Dawley
Michael,
When you try this PLAYMIDI.EXE, if it works on SB16, and if it
is any improvement on PLAY.EXE, would you let us all know.
My own impression is that it is really just the SBPro version of SB16's
PLAY.EXE. :(
The APM for MIDIs in Arachne was on the APM Download page of Arachne
Website the last time I looked.
FWIW: I have tried all the DOS MIDI "players" that I have come across in
about 2 years of searching the internet. Most require a MIDI board or
external device, and will only give you silence through an ordinary sound
card. :(
Those that do use the SB16 card are those, mostly from Creative, that use
the on-board synthesizer chip, and they make perfectly good MIDIs sound, as
Sergie says, awful. :(
This is probably the only reason that I keep a tamed, tuned, and dedicated
captive version of Win 3.1 on my machine.
Regards,
Ron Clarke
Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:45:49
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On 16 Feb 00 at 21:15, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 19:02:12, Dale Mentzer wrote:
>>
>>> On 16 Feb 00 at 2:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>>> whats aol messenger???? what part of the web have you been sitting on.
>>
>>> Gee, thanks. That really raised the general level of content here on
>>> the list.
>>
>> Dale,
>>Sorry, `AIM' will only run on Windows and Mac systems.
>>For more info, try this link..... http://www.aol.com/aim/about.html
I know about AOL Instant Messenger, I was only bemoaning the poor
response to an honest question that added nothing to any discussion
that might follow.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
I wish the buck stopped here. I could use a few.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:15:20
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
On 17 Feb 00 at 7:17, Roger Turk wrote:
>>I use Arachne thru Compuserve and do not have any problems. One peculiarity
>>with Compuserve is that you have to communicate with 7 data bits, Even
>>parity, 1 stop bit (7E1), otherwise, you can't connect. (I tried once with
>>8N1 and nothing happened, returned to 7E1 and Arachne worked fine.)
Excellent point, Roger, I had forgotten about that little detail.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
Funny, I don't remember being absent minded.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:12:13
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
On 17 Feb 00 at 0:55, Steve Evans wrote:
>>Again, thanks everyone for your suggestions. Here are my disappointed
>>results so far. I have re-copied my original message below in case somebody
>>gets another inspiration.
Steve, are you sure you have the correct DNS (Dynamic Name Server)
addresses for each ISP you are accessing are entered correctly? My
first efforts with Arachne were unsuccessful because I did not know
what these numbers were and I did not enter any. I was able to
connect, but after that nothing happened. If you have these
addresses entered make sure that you enter the correct numbers for
each service and then save each one as a different Arachne profile
(.acf) file. I first connected Arachne successfully with Compuserve,
but I left them about a year ago for a local ISP. Have you visited
the Internet Resources Forum on CIS? You might want to visit there if
you have not as there are some knowledgeable folks there about
Arachne. I hope this helps and please keep trying as Arachne is
definitely worth the effort.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
Practice random acts of intelligence and senseless acts of self-control.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:55:50
From: "Dale Mentzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virus Alert!
On 17 Feb 00 at 3:39, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>>I have heard rumors that there are CMOS viruses that can physically change
>>the firmware, but I don't know if there is any truth in those stories. Does
>>anyone know anything for certain about this? Sounds like a hoax to me.
This might be possible if your system has a Flash BIOS. That is after
all what the BIOS update program does to the flash BIOS.
Regards,
Dale Mentzer
I started out with nothing...I still have most of it.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:38:39 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:39:01 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> I'm sorry if my question about AOL Instant Messenger offended anyone. I
> really don't know what it is. I thought it might be some kind of chat
> program similar to ICQ. If this is indeed the case, then my question is
> not at all off-topic, as many of us do use some kind of IRC program with
> Arachne. If someone would just please explain to me what kind of program
> or service AOL Instant Messenger is, I would appreciate it.
Sam .....you can play with AOL messenger, if you go to
http://www.netscape.net/
and set up a My Netscape account...I have
not used it, because I don't want to be bothered, but it will work with
any of the big-brows...I go with either IE3 or NC408....It is a
proprietary thing, just like Yahoo Instant Messenger....IMO they are
junk designed to straitjacket people into their respective
sites/services....you cannot use them outside AOL/Netscapt or Yahoo..,
................gregy
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:17:03 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:44:43 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
> OS on the 586/133 is MS-DOS 5.0; on the P75 it is MS-DOS 6.22.
Roger....I hate to mention this (given that we are all a little
in love with whatever OS we already have installed), but there have
been many Baaaad stories about problems (expecially memory management)
with that MSDOS5.0....you might want to think about copying the OS
over from the P75, and see if that doesn't clear up your problems.
.......gregy
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:42:09 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf
On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:43:02 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
> The attached file _should_ clear things-up (a little bit anyway)<g>
> (report created by WATCH.EXE)
alright.. Glenn ....how about telling us where you got that WATCH.EXE
...instead of just tantalizing us with a sample of what it can dooooo
............gregy
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:43:09 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:41:15 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Richard, I personally prefer a flat address space and have always found the
> segmented Intel architecture repulsive. That hardly excuses adding more
> software to my hardware just so it can run an incredibly bloated version of a
> simple format conversion routine. Any self respecting ASM programmer with the
> proper motivation could cut that 1meg down to 64k and wouldn't need a dpmi.
> I think the best programmers in the world are gamers. And if THESE guys,
> writing in ASM, want to use a flat address space to get the effect they are
> building, then that's fine by me. It might be a good idea to put a Honda
> engine in a Reynard chassis to enter an F1 race, but putting a supercharger
> on a Honda Civic to pull a trailer uphill is just silly.
> I hope the fractured analogy is amusing to some.
> Just so you won't think I'm a total Luddite, I will try QDPMI to see if it
> has ANY negative effect on my everyday 16bit operations. I will also try,
> and possibly use, pdftotex until something more respectable comes along.
> As always, the opinions expressed are those of the writer and do not reflect
> the views of the majority.<G>
Clarence ......if everyone else here does not agree with you (us)...
then it is toooooooo baaaaad....! THEY are in the minority...<vbg>
..........gregy
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:05:04 -0800
From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virus Alert!
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:39:15 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote:
> Are there any CMOS AV programs? Where could I get them?
Mark.....at bootup, you get the screen with AMI BIOS....AWARD Bios...
Pheonix Bios.....etc.....and right below that you see your memory
test utility counting over until it checks your memory.....this is
all part of your POST (Power ON System Test, or Power ON Self Test).
....right below that is a line that reads "hit (DEL) to run Setup"
or something like that.....you do what it says, and you are put into
the opening screen of your CMOS Setup utility....it is usually a
!!WARNING!! screen....you <ENTER> to go to the next screen, which
should be a menu of the various CMOS Setup sections...you move the
highlignted selector bar up and down with the arrow keys, and then
<ENTER> to select the one that you want to het into......
NOTE...!!!!...the WARNING screen wasn't just there for fun, or a joke...
you need to LOOK through this thing several times, BEFORE you make any
changes....get familiar with it before tweaking.....AND....READ THE
SCREENS.....!!!..BEFORE...!!! you make a move on that screen....pay
attention to what is down on the bottom, etc...and ....do not panic...
NEVER...make a move without STOP, READ, PONDER....your machine will
not fly away while you use your head...
...then...probably on the first page or "Advanced CMOS Setup" page,
you will find the toggle for anti-virus ON/OFF....think about it a
while before you activate it....<g g g>
........gregy
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:55:56 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:47:14 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote:
> Hi
> "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> PS: There is a good free IMAP provider, called www.subdimension.com.
>>> But they only provide IMAP, and no SMTP. (so you have to use your
>>> ISPs SMTP server to _SEND_ mail)
> SH> There is also a very good free IMAP provider at
> SH> http://www.telebot.com, aka http://www.telebot.net. With this
> SH> provider you can use IMAP both for sending and receiving mail.
> IMAP is IMHO only a protocol for RECEIVING Mails ... (like POP3)
> SH> Works with Arachne
> Arachne does NOT support IMAP (yet) !!
- ---------->>> Oh yes she does, see appended message below.
> --------
> OK I had a look ... they offer IMAP, POP and Autheticated SMTP.
> It would be interesting if SMTP works with Arachne ...
> (Arachne can't authenticate IMHO)
> SH> The really nice thing about the service is that you can use Arachne.
> SHouldn't _ALL_ POP and SMTP servers work with arachne ???
> SH> Sam Heywood
> CU, Ricsi
> --
Gentlemen:
For those of you who are not yet believers, I submit proof that Arachne
does support IMAP. The message appended below was retrieved by my
Arachne from "pop.telebot.net", an IMAP server. Moments before, I had
used the Barebones DOS email system to send the message to myself at
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I retrieved the message with my Arachne.
The message is shown, headers and all, but with headers remarked out by
myself.
Sam Heywood
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>Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Received: from sherman.shentel.net (unverified [204.111.1.58]) by webmail2.telebot.net
> (Rockliffe SMTPRA 3.4.5) with ESMTP id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:20:21 -0800
>Received: from smtp.shentel.net (ha07s016.d.shentel.net [204.111.54.16])
> by sherman.shentel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08725
> for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:19:46 -0500 (EST)
>Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:13:42
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>X-Mailer: Barebones DOS email system.
>Subject: Test Message
>Status: RO
>X-UIDL: B0021896263.MSG
This is just another silly test message
..
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:08:46 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: maps.expedia.com
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:05:06 +-0100XYZ(nWxst), Neil Parks wrote:
> The Expedia site provides driving directions for going from place to
> place within North America.
> After it gives directions, it offers an option of showing "turn by turn"
> maps.
> Arachne 1.60 beta 1 doesn't seem to deal with that option correctly. If
> the URL is very long (depending on the detail with which the start and end
> points
> are described), then Arachne just refreshes the driving directions page.
> If the URL is shorter, then Expedia sends just a logo saying I must have
> got there by direct link. It suggests I should read a help page, which talks
> about cookies. Expedia sends lots of cookies. Maybe Arachne isn't
> receiving all of them properly.
Results attached are for shortest route:
from---- 11429 mahoning ave, north jackson oh 44451 (my current address)
to------ compton ct, deland fl 32720 (my "old" address)
530 compton ct could not be found.
(maybe because compton ct is a "dead-end" street)<g>
Total length of URL generated by
http://maps.expedia.com/drivingdirections.asp .... 255 characters.
[Attached file: oh2fl-sh.txt] (File "oh2fl-sh.txt" (type TEXT/PLAIN, size 18 KB))
<snipped from list copy, sent only to Neil>
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DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
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Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:15:33 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SB16 and Arachne
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:03:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> FWIW: I have tried all the DOS MIDI "players" that I have come across in
> about 2 years of searching the internet. Most require a MIDI board or
> external device, and will only give you silence through an ordinary sound
> card. :(
> Those that do use the SB16 card are those, mostly from Creative, that use
> the on-board synthesizer chip, and they make perfectly good MIDIs sound, as
> Sergie says, awful. :(
> This is probably the only reason that I keep a tamed, tuned, and dedicated
> captive version of Win 3.1 on my machine.
> Regards,
> Ron Clarke
Try http://www.cubic.org/player/
Get the player _and_ all 8 "Gus patch" files.
As I said once before:
If you've never heard MIDIs the way they were _meant_ to sound. You
won't believe your ears.<g>
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DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:26:41 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:42:09 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2000 22:43:02 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote:
>> The attached file _should_ clear things-up (a little bit anyway)<g>
>> (report created by WATCH.EXE)
> alright.. Glenn ....how about telling us where you got that WATCH.EXE
> ....instead of just tantalizing us with a sample of what it can dooooo
> .............gregy
I've not been able to find a URL to get it.
(got my copy from R&E BBS many years ago)
I can eMail it to anyone who'de like a copy.
(watch.zip is 19kb in size)
Gregory, your copy is already on the way.<g>
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Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:26:24 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble with TELNET
>Mark Roth wrote:
>I finally found out a little bit about TELNET. I wanted to use it to
>delete some files from my email server. I was able to login OK and it
>seemed to accept the deletions I wanted to make. But I know I need a
>successful update to get them to work and I couldn't do it. I tried entring
>UPDATE and I got back an -err message. When I tried the QUIT command I also
>got an -err message for that butit did quit and return to Arachne. It did
>not successfuly delete the messages. What else can I do to get it tpo work?
>Is there something wrong with the copy of TELNET that I have?
>
- -Bart replied
- -You'll have to use the external FTP (ftp.exe) that comes with telnet.apm.
I'll hav eto learn about FTP.EXE. I don't yet know anything about it
except using ftp:// instead of http:// for transfering files instead of
downloading pages.
- -Probably you'll have to open anather server (like "open ftp.xs4all.nl"
- -instead of "xs4.xs4all.nl") if you use it manually).
What's xs4.xs4all.nl?
I started TELNET by pressing the [T] key.
My server is pop.hotpop.com. When I used TELNET I logged in with the
command:
telnet> pop.hotpop.com 110
telnet> user myusername
telnet> pass mypassword
Then I entered the delete comands for the messages starting with:
telnet> dele 26
telnet> dele 25
And so on until I did all of the first 26 messages
Then I tried to use a command trhat I wasn't sure would work, and it didn't.
telnet> update
telnet> -err
Then I tried a command that really should have worked but it didn't either.
telnet> quit
telnet> -err
Then it returned me to Arachne
- -Yet if you use telnet on a unix shell account, try "mc" for a change.
What do you mean? is there a "mc" command for TELNET or FTP and what does
it do?
- -The function keys can be replaced by <escape> with the number key
- -(<esc><1> instead of <F1>)
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:44:44 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:55:56 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> Gentlemen:
> For those of you who are not yet believers, I submit proof that Arachne
> does support IMAP. The message appended below was retrieved by my
> Arachne from "pop.telebot.net", an IMAP server. Moments before, I had
> used the Barebones DOS email system to send the message to myself at
> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I retrieved the message with my Arachne.
> The message is shown, headers and all, but with headers remarked out by
> myself.
> Sam Heywood
Sam,
Does the line in your arachne.cfg (the one you used to do IMAP),
say something like "pop.telebot.net" ???
If so.... you didn't access the telebot IMAP server.
You accessed thier POP3 server.
This a screen capture of Telneting to pop.telebot.net 110
(arachne can only use port number 110)
Clarkson University Terminal Emulator [CUTE:2.2D/TC-D]
Alt-H presents a summary of special keys
Packet driver (PPPD220F)
Class 1 Type 0 Version b Extended 1
My Etheraddress: 0:2:12:0:56:34
Sending BOOTPs: (Press <SPACEBAR> to give up.)
Valid BOOTP Packet ReceivedBootP: Reply from server IP [204.179.144.13]
BootP: My IP [204.179.144.126] Gateway IP [204.179.144.13]
BootP: RFC1048 Style BootP Packet Received
BootP: Subnet is 255.255.255.0
BootP: Adding Gateway number 1 IP 204.179.144.13
BootP: Adding Nameserver number 1 IP 204.179.144.2
BootP: Adding Nameserver number 2 IP 0.0.0.0
My Ethernet address: 0:2:12:0:56:34
My IP address: 204.179.144.126
Keyboard type is extended.
Server mode, press ESC to exit or ALT-A to begin a session
Enter new machine name, address or @scriptfile (machine [optional portnumber])
Telnet> pop.telebot.net 110
Clarkson University Tcp Communication Package
Clarkson University Terminal Emulator [CUTE:2.2D/TC-D]
Alt-H presents a summary of special keys
+OK MailSite POP3 Server 3.4.5.0 Ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
You tell me..... Is this an IMAP server? Or is it a POP3 server?<g>
- --
Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:56 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AOL Instant Messenger
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:38:39 -0800, Gregory J. Feig wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:39:01 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>> I'm sorry if my question about AOL Instant Messenger offended anyone. I
>> really don't know what it is. I thought it might be some kind of chat
>> program similar to ICQ. If this is indeed the case, then my question is
>> not at all off-topic, as many of us do use some kind of IRC program with
>> Arachne. If someone would just please explain to me what kind of program
>> or service AOL Instant Messenger is, I would appreciate it.
> Sam .....you can play with AOL messenger, if you go to
> http://www.netscape.net/
> and set up a My Netscape account...I have
> not used it, because I don't want to be bothered, but it will work with
> any of the big-brows...I go with either IE3 or NC408....It is a
> proprietary thing, just like Yahoo Instant Messenger....IMO they are
> junk designed to straitjacket people into their respective
> sites/services....you cannot use them outside AOL/Netscapt or Yahoo..,
Hi Gregy,
Thanks, but no thanks. If it won't work with DOS, then I'm not interested.
Neither do I want to be bothered with anything that requires one of the
big browsers. ICQ is supposedly a proprietary thing also; however, someone
did write a DOS version named MICQ, and it works just swell for
communicating with the Windozers!
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:09 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Virus Alert!
Gregy wrote:
>>NOTE...!!!!...the WARNING screen wasn't just there for fun, or a joke...
you need to LOOK through this thing several times, BEFORE you make any
changes....get familiar with it before tweaking.....AND....READ THE
SCREENS.....!!!..BEFORE...!!! you make a move on that screen....pay
attention to what is down on the bottom, etc...and ....do not panic...
NEVER...make a move without STOP, READ, PONDER....your machine will
not fly away while you use your head...<<
The FIRST thing to do when you enter the CMOS Setup Program is to do a <Print
Screen> on each and every page in the Setup Program. The LAST thing to do
BEFORE you leave the Setup Program after you have made changes is to do a
<Print Screen> on each and every page in the Setup Program. The NEXT thing
to do is to put these printouts in a safe spot where you can get your hands
on them.
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
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