arachne-digest Friday, February 18 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:06 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error Gregy wrote: >>On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:44:43 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > OS on the 586/133 is MS-DOS 5.0; on the P75 it is MS-DOS 6.22. Roger....I hate to mention this (given that we are all a little in love with whatever OS we already have installed), but there have been many Baaaad stories about problems (expecially memory management) with that MSDOS5.0....you might want to think about copying the OS over from the P75, and see if that doesn't clear up your problems.<< *Without* buying a 2nd license for the MS-DOS 6.22??? NAAHH! I wouldn't think of it! Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:06 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error Gregy wrote: >>On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:44:43 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > OS on the 586/133 is MS-DOS 5.0; on the P75 it is MS-DOS 6.22. Roger....I hate to mention this (given that we are all a little in love with whatever OS we already have installed), but there have been many Baaaad stories about problems (expecially memory management) with that MSDOS5.0....you might want to think about copying the OS over from the P75, and see if that doesn't clear up your problems.<< *Without* buying a 2nd license for the MS-DOS 6.22??? NAAHH! I wouldn't think of it! Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:05 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error Steve, I think that it is about time for you to post your ARACHNE.CFG. We can go on guessing for the rest of the year about what you have, to no avail. Without your ARACHNE.CFG, I can't compare it to what I have, which I know works for me. Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:21:56 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:26:24 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote: > I started TELNET by pressing the [T] key. > My server is pop.hotpop.com. When I used TELNET I logged in with the > command: > telnet> pop.hotpop.com 110 > telnet> user myusername > telnet> pass mypassword > Then I entered the delete comands for the messages starting with: > telnet> dele 26 > telnet> dele 25 > And so on until I did all of the first 26 messages > Then I tried to use a command trhat I wasn't sure would work, and it didn't. > telnet> update > telnet> -err > Then I tried a command that really should have worked but it didn't either. > telnet> quit > telnet> -err > Then it returned me to Arachne I just tried it with telnet> mail.cisnet.com 110 user username pass pssword (it automatically displayed that I had 7 messages) dele 7 (message 7 deleted) dele 6 (message 6 deleted) continued with 5,4,3,2 and 1 list (O messages) quit (back into Arachne) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:17:22 -0600 From: "BRIAN RENFROW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Finally, Thanks All Thanks All. I have successfully found a way to fix the problem I have. It seems that when the computer boots up it was giving me an error message of missing operating system. I took a system disk created from WIN98, and got the computer booted. I then formatted drive C:. When this was done the prompt worked and it contained an empty directory. I then took the DOS upgrade disks and installed DOS. This worked better than I could have possibly hoped. It took it right away. I then proceded to install WIN98. The first attempt failed, but I tried again. Mainly due to the fact that I never give up. Thankfully, it took the second turn. I now have a fully operational computer complete with WIN98. I am going to download Arachne onto it tommorrow. Thanks all for you help. Brian D. Renfrow Visit My Site: http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/brianspoem1/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:29:51 -0400 From: "Dev Teelucksingh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Two DOS MIDI players which work on Soundblaster 16 I have a Creative Labs Soundblaster 16 SCSI-2 card and I use two DOS MIDI players which work fine : Megamid v1.66 http://freeweb.digiweb.com/music/megamiddos/ Graphical MIDI Player for DOS. Also supports playing of Karaoke MIDI files GSPLAY v1.1 ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/music/gsplay1.zip A freeware MIDI player. Can also play Karaoke MIDI files. Obviously FM synthesis leaves much to be desired so I upgraded the card with an Ensoniq Daughterboard (similiar to a WaveBlaster addon board but cheaper at the time) Dev Teelucksingh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Interesting DOS programs page at http://www.opus.co.tt/dave - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne Internet suite for DOS -- - -- the Ultimate Internet Client -- - -- http://home.arachne.cz/ -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:34:32 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:06 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > *Without* buying a 2nd license for the MS-DOS 6.22??? NAAHH! I wouldn't > think of it! Roger .......but you could ALWAYS go to http://www.lineo.com/ and download their nice new DRDOS 7.03........<vbg> ............gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:39:25 -0800 From: "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Virus Alert! On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 22:08:09 -0500, Roger Turk wrote: > The FIRST thing to do when you enter the CMOS Setup Program is to do a <Print > Screen> on each and every page in the Setup Program. The LAST thing to do > BEFORE you leave the Setup Program after you have made changes is to do a > <Print Screen> on each and every page in the Setup Program. The NEXT thing > to do is to put these printouts in a safe spot where you can get your hands > on them. Amen.... Roger .....and I didn't want to complicate things like mentioning the CMOS Save/Reload programs, etc... ...you should have hard copy, or saved copies, even if you don't fiddle with it....'cause your battery is GONNA go out sooner or later ........gregy - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:06:23 -0800 From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error You can probably tell, I am intensely jealous of you all, your technical expertise and success with Arachne. Roger, I also tried 8N1 setting with Compuserve, and couldn't even connect. I have always used 7E1 with Compuserve successfully. (Actually, I should try the 7E1 setting with Freewwweb). It appears that most success is on 586-class machines with lots more RAM. Anybody got 386 and 486 machines with 1 to 8 megs of RAM working satisfactory with Arachne (any version)? Bart, Thanks for the generous post. That's quite a feat of batch gymnastics. As you said, it probably won't help my situation, since I can connect and start up Arachne. I have never had trouble connecting to Compuserve with a terminal emulator (ie. Procomm). And I do get a successful login using Arachne's dialer, both Compuserve and Freewwweb. I don't think phone lines are the problem. Remember, the "Arachne load error" is the skull 'n crossbones screen I get AFTER successfully logging on, SOMETIMES successfully loading the start page. It stalls mid-load or I try going to a 2nd URL and I get the message "Cannot locate computer . . .", then the "Arachne load error" screen. I do think it's time I try to uncompress the drive and re-install Arachne. However, the 386 machine's drive is NOT compressed, and I have the same troubles on that. Sergei, My Compuserve email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my Freewwweb address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I am not sure what you mean by 'hostname'. Compuserve email servers are pop.compuserve.com and smtp.compuserve.com; Freewwweb's is pop3.freewwweb.com and smtp.compuserve.com You said before that I would need an NT or Unix machine to determine IP number address of the start pages. Sorry, I don't have that kind of friend. Is there a Windows 95 utility or maybe a website that would help me here? I poked around on MS IE for a status indicator showing a site's IP number, but nothing. I will try to get Freewwweb techs to disclose their proxy server address, IF they are indeed using a proxy. Steve - --Original Messages-- Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:17:52 -0500 From: Roger Turk Steve Evans, Sorry for this belated reply to your post of 15 Feb, but I was under the weather and am behind in reading listservice posts. You wrote: >>As I mentioned, other users of the Freewwweb and Compuserve ISPs in my local area are connecting and surfing via Arachne quite successfully with only the Primary and Secondary DNS, no proxy server address.<< I use Arachne thru Compuserve and do not have any problems. One peculiarity with Compuserve is that you have to communicate with 7 data bits, Even parity, 1 stop bit (7E1), otherwise, you can't connect. (I tried once with 8N1 and nothing happened, returned to 7E1 and Arachne worked fine.) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:27:17 +0300 From: "Sergei Kramar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve, What does it mean "in my local area"? Do another user use the same provider phone as you? Did you try to use IP address as URL? Give me your e-mail addresses in Compuserve and Freewwweb nets and also their hostnames. I'll try to learn something about the situation from my end of the Internet. Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:13:48 From: Van Voordturen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Since I'm behind answering, you get two replies...) I had the impression that core.exe just wouldn't load after loading epppd. I was wrong there. In fact I'm more or less clueless. Drive compression may be a problem, since disk space may be incorrectly calculated, especially if you keep compressed files (archives) on a compressed volume. That would, however, definitely affect any other attempt to write to this volume. There might be a problem with the phone line, but that would usually depend on the time of day. What if you exit arachne and try to log in with telnet.exe manually? Bart Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:44:43 -0500 From: Roger Turk OS on the 586/133 is MS-DOS 5.0; on the P75 it is MS-DOS 6.22. I agree with you, that if the computer connects, the modem and port settings must be good. See my immediate previous post to Steve Evans regarding Compuserve requiring 7E1 and not working with 8N1. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:57 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: Trouble with TELNET Hi "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> SH> Works with Arachne >> Arachne does NOT support IMAP (yet) !! SH> ---------->>> Oh yes she does, see appended message below. Arachne does NOT support IMAP !!!! And here is the answer .... (already contained in my 1. mail !) >> OK I had a look ... they offer IMAP, POP and Autheticated SMTP. ^^^ >> It would be interesting if SMTP works with Arachne ... >> (Arachne can't authenticate IMHO) >> SH> The really nice thing about the service is that you can use >> SH> Arachne. >> SHouldn't _ALL_ POP and SMTP servers work with arachne ??? SH> Gentlemen: SH> For those of you who are not yet believers, I submit proof that SH> Arachne does support IMAP. The message appended below was retrieved SH> by my Arachne from "pop.telebot.net", an IMAP server. That's only part of the truth ... It is a IMAP _AND_ POP server. Arachne uses the POP part to retrieve EMails !!! (and NOT IMAP !!!!) So here's a breif explanation: IMAP4 protocol to get mails. (currently not supported ba Arachne) POP3 protocol to get mails. (supported by arachne) SMTP protocol to send mails. (supported by arachne) authenticated SMTP protocol to send mails. (IMHO not supported by arachne ... I haven't seen any username/password field for SMTP) So I hope this clears up things. It would be interesting, if it is possible to SEND Mails through telebot.net !! CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> The early bird catches the worm <=- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:50:25 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf >I normally run Arachne (and everything else for that matter) on my '486 where >Arachne has to run on a ramdisk to keep my blood pressure down. Is that because, without the ramdisk, Arachne gives the hard drive too hard a drive, threatening to cause its demise? I don't like the sound Arachne makes when running on my second fixed disk. How big does the ramdisk have to be, and what must be copied thereto? Is the clumsy segmented RAM architecture unique to Intel/compatible? Thomas Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:42:53 -0500 From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Virus Alert! > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:39:15 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote: > Are there any CMOS AV programs? Where could I get them? gregy replied: - -Mark.....at bootup, you get the screen with AMI BIOS....AWARD Bios... - -Pheonix Bios.....etc.....and right below that you see your memory - -test utility counting over until it checks your memory.....this is - -all part of your POST (Power ON System Test, or Power ON Self Test). - -....right below that is a line that reads "hit (DEL) to run Setup" - -or something like that.....you do what it says, and you are put into - -the opening screen of your CMOS Setup utility....it is usually a - -!!WARNING!! screen....you <ENTER> to go to the next screen, which - -should be a menu of the various CMOS Setup sections...you move the - -highlignted selector bar up and down with the arrow keys, and then - -<ENTER> to select the one that you want to het into...... - -NOTE...!!!!...the WARNING screen wasn't just there for fun, or a joke... - -you need to LOOK through this thing several times, BEFORE you make any - -changes....get familiar with it before tweaking.....AND....READ THE - -SCREENS.....!!!..BEFORE...!!! you make a move on that screen....pay - -attention to what is down on the bottom, etc...and ....do not panic... - -NEVER...make a move without STOP, READ, PONDER....your machine will - -not fly away while you use your head... - -...then...probably on the first page or "Advanced CMOS Setup" page, - -you will find the toggle for anti-virus ON/OFF....think about it a - -while before you activate it....<g g g> I have AMI BIOS 4/30/1989. I only have one page for setup. There is no warning screen. There is no Advanced CMOS Setup. There is no toggle for anti-virus. All I can do is select what drives I have installed and set a RAM memory option. I can also select CMOS Diagnostics at boot up which can perform various disk utilities can run tests on the disks, monitor and the COM ports. So far the best anti-virus program I have is McAfee's SCAN86. I just downloaded, installed and tried to run F-PROT. IU got a fayal error that wouldmn't let it run. The message was a new one to me. DOS Causeway Error 11. F-PROT had a document PROBLEMS.TXT that explained that some laptops would have problems because they use some sort of causeway programing or something like that. I also downloaded, installed and tried to run Integrity Master v4.21. It locked on me the second time I ran it. It couldn't rewrite the file that saved the CMOS settings. I downloaded quite a few others that I haven't tried out yet. I installed AntiViral Toolkit Pro v3.0 build 126 on a clean bootable flopppy. It wouldn't run because it asked for a second floppy that I didn't have. So I trioed installing it on my hard drive. It still wouldn't run. I got an error message SET file not found. I couldn't find anything in the documents that came with it about either problem. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:40:42 -0500 From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Finally, Thanks All Brian Renfrow wrote: >>Thanks All. I have successfully found a way to fix the problem I have. It seems that when the computer boots up it was giving me an error message of missing operating system. I took a system disk created from WIN98, and got the computer booted. I then formatted drive C:. When this was done the prompt worked and it contained an empty directory. I then took the DOS upgrade disks and installed DOS. This worked better than I could have possibly hoped. It took it right away. I then proceded to install WIN98.<< Now, why did you go ahead and screw up a perfectly good computer?? Roger Turk Tucson, Arizona USA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:06:10 +0300 From: "Sergei Kramar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:06:23 -0800, Steve Evans wrote: > ... > Sergei, > My Compuserve email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my Freewwweb > address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I am not sure what you mean by > 'hostname'. Compuserve email servers are pop.compuserve.com and > smtp.compuserve.com; Freewwweb's is pop3.freewwweb.com and > smtp.compuserve.com Steve, OK. What do you see in the status line and in the URL field when Compuserve start page is loading? And what is for Freewwweb? In all details, please. > You said before that I would need an NT or Unix machine to determine IP > number address of the start pages. Sorry, I don't have that kind of friend. I can do it myself but I need the names of start pages at least. Sergei. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:10:36 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:44:44 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:55:56 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote: >> Gentlemen: >> For those of you who are not yet believers, I submit proof that Arachne >> does support IMAP. The message appended below was retrieved by my >> Arachne from "pop.telebot.net", an IMAP server. Moments before, I had >> used the Barebones DOS email system to send the message to myself at >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". I retrieved the message with my Arachne. >> The message is shown, headers and all, but with headers remarked out by >> myself. >> Sam Heywood > Sam, > Does the line in your arachne.cfg (the one you used to do IMAP), > say something like "pop.telebot.net" ??? Yes, it does. In order to download mail from the Telebot POP3 server, I merely changed my mail settings for my Arachne. Isn't that what IMAP is all about.....making a provision for using an alternative POP3 server? > If so.... you didn't access the telebot IMAP server. > You accessed thier POP3 server. > This a screen capture of Telneting to pop.telebot.net 110 > (arachne can only use port number 110) According to instructions appearing on web-sites offering IMAP, one is just supposed to configure an internet mail client to access the server operated by the web-site. I haven't seen anything telling me that I should use a different port number. > Clarkson University Terminal Emulator [CUTE:2.2D/TC-D] > Alt-H presents a summary of special keys > Packet driver (PPPD220F) > Class 1 Type 0 Version b Extended 1 > My Etheraddress: 0:2:12:0:56:34 > Sending BOOTPs: (Press <SPACEBAR> to give up.) > Valid BOOTP Packet ReceivedBootP: Reply from server IP [204.179.144.13] > BootP: My IP [204.179.144.126] Gateway IP [204.179.144.13] > BootP: RFC1048 Style BootP Packet Received > BootP: Subnet is 255.255.255.0 > BootP: Adding Gateway number 1 IP 204.179.144.13 > BootP: Adding Nameserver number 1 IP 204.179.144.2 > BootP: Adding Nameserver number 2 IP 0.0.0.0 > My Ethernet address: 0:2:12:0:56:34 > My IP address: 204.179.144.126 > Keyboard type is extended. > Server mode, press ESC to exit or ALT-A to begin a session > Enter new machine name, address or @scriptfile (machine [optional portnumber]) > Telnet> pop.telebot.net 110 > Clarkson University Tcp Communication Package > Clarkson University Terminal Emulator [CUTE:2.2D/TC-D] > Alt-H presents a summary of special keys > +OK MailSite POP3 Server 3.4.5.0 Ready <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You tell me..... Is this an IMAP server? Or is it a POP3 server?<g> It identifies itself as a POP3 server. It is my understanding that IMAP is merely an internet protocol or a feature that allows one to simply configure an email client to access an alternative POP3 server. If my concept is entirely incorrect, then please refer me to a source of information. Thanks, Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:00:09 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Virus Alert! On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:42:53 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote: >> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:39:15 -0500, Mark David Roth wrote: >> Are there any CMOS AV programs? Where could I get them? > gregy replied: <snip> > I have AMI BIOS 4/30/1989. I only have one page for setup. There is > no warning screen. There is no Advanced CMOS Setup. There is no toggle > for anti-virus. All I can do is select what drives I have installed and > set a RAM memory option. I can also select CMOS Diagnostics at boot up > which can perform various disk utilities can run tests on the disks, > monitor and the COM ports. <snip> Gentlemen, Here is the "The Amibios Survival Guide": http://www.adfa.oz.au/Hardware/BIOS/AMIBIOS.html This most definitely will help. I've consulted this page many times. As a result, I have always succeeded in solving AMIBIOS setup problems. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:26:18 -0500 From: Terri FitzSimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: cache as cache can L.D. Best <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Just a thought for the future. A refinement might be an additional message, bell & whistle, on the "Disk Full!" module; have Arachne check to see how much space is being taken up by trash can, display trash can usage, and give option to empty trash can -- then check to see if it can then run with the new disk space available.< Interesting thought, but why not extend that operation to the cache? That is rather more likely to be taking up disk space than the trash. One really useful feature of Netscape is that it automatically deletes files from the cache. Of course, I have no idea how difficult that would be to implement with Arachne. But it would be really nifty to have the cache monitored automatically. Terri FitzSimons ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:28:53 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET Sam Heywood wrote: >It identifies itself as a POP3 server. It is my understanding that IMAP >is merely an internet protocol or a feature that allows one to simply >configure an email client to access an alternative POP3 server. If my >concept is entirely incorrect, then please refer me to a source of >information. I'm sorry I don't know where to find any information. A IMAP server gives more interactivity with the user than a POP server will. For instance when you connect to a POP server (and not via Telnet) you can not choose which mails you want to delete, IMAP gives this ability to you. A typical IMAP aware program would show you some of the header information (as you already see in InSight) and then when you click on a link it will download that mail from the server and show it to you (as opposed to make a html file from the already downloaded mail). AFAIK very few IMAP servers and programs exist, and adding it to Arachne should be a very low priority project - but that's only IMHO of course. //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:08:32 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Finally, Thanks All BRIAN RENFROW wrote: > > Thanks All. > I now have a fully > operational computer complete with WIN98. I am going to download Arachne > onto it tommorrow. Thanks all for you help. Oh Gawd; We lost him down the win tunnel. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:18:25 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Arachne load error Steve Evans wrote: > > It appears that most success is on 586-class > machines with lots more RAM. Anybody got 386 and 486 machines with 1 to 8 > megs of RAM working satisfactory with Arachne (any version)? Steve, I have Arachne working on a 20Mhz '386 with 4M ram and a 33Mhz '486 with 8Megs of ram. All versions from 1.41 thru 1.60 work (more or less) depending on your criteria. Version 1.50b2 is the bulletproof one for me. I don't use Compuserve or Freewwweb however. If I may make a suggestion, perhaps you could find someone near you that will let you try their ISP. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:31:56 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: OT Re: what is .pdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I normally run Arachne (and everything else for that matter) on my '486 where > >Arachne has to run on a ramdisk to keep my blood pressure down. > > Is that because, without the ramdisk, Arachne gives the hard drive too hard a > drive, threatening to cause its demise? I don't like the sound Arachne makes > when running on my second fixed disk. How big does the ramdisk have to be, and > what must be copied thereto? Hi Thomas; I use the ramdisk because it is much too slow otherwise. A 3 to 3.5 Mb ramdisk is useable if load it, delete all .gifs, all wiz stuff and anything else you are sure you will never use. Create \TEMP on ramdisk, move all mail and download and CACHE to the harddisk. Delete all the now unused directories. Copy command.com to the ramdisk. Use Cache2TEMP in your .cfg and specify all paths explicitly. Zip it up. It is possible to use a ramdisk as small as 2.3Mb but you must be creative. At this extreme I not only exclude all files that are not absolutely necessary but I also use Stacker to compress it. > Is the clumsy segmented RAM architecture unique to Intel/compatible? Yes. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:50:40 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Bernie wrote: | Sam Heywood wrote: | >It identifies itself as a POP3 server. It is my understanding that IMAP | >is merely an internet protocol or a feature that allows one to simply | >configure an email client to access an alternative POP3 server. If my | >concept is entirely incorrect, then please refer me to a source of | >information. | | I'm sorry I don't know where to find any information. A IMAP server | gives more interactivity with the user than a POP server will. For | instance when you connect to a POP server (and not via Telnet) you | can not choose which mails you want to delete, IMAP gives this | ability to you. A typical IMAP aware program would show you some of | the header information (as you already see in InSight) and then when | you click on a link it will download that mail from the server and | show it to you (as opposed to make a html file from the already | downloaded mail). AFAIK very few IMAP servers and programs exist, | and adding it to Arachne should be a very low priority project - but | that's only IMHO of course. //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS | programs, Star Wars ... Sam, Bernie, it is easy to get more information: http://www.imap.org Regards - -- Gregor J Jones mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston MA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:52:06 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:57 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) wrote: > Hi > "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> SH> Works with Arachne >>> Arachne does NOT support IMAP (yet) !! > SH> ---------->>> Oh yes she does, see appended message below. > Arachne does NOT support IMAP !!!! > And here is the answer .... (already contained in my 1. mail !) >>> OK I had a look ... they offer IMAP, POP and Autheticated SMTP. > ^^^ >>> It would be interesting if SMTP works with Arachne ... >>> (Arachne can't authenticate IMHO) >>> SH> The really nice thing about the service is that you can use >>> SH> Arachne. >>> SHouldn't _ALL_ POP and SMTP servers work with arachne ??? > SH> Gentlemen: > SH> For those of you who are not yet believers, I submit proof that > SH> Arachne does support IMAP. The message appended below was retrieved > SH> by my Arachne from "pop.telebot.net", an IMAP server. > That's only part of the truth ... > It is a IMAP _AND_ POP server. > Arachne uses the POP part to retrieve EMails !!! (and NOT IMAP !!!!) > So here's a breif explanation: > IMAP4 protocol to get mails. (currently not supported ba Arachne) > POP3 protocol to get mails. (supported by arachne) > SMTP protocol to send mails. (supported by arachne) > authenticated SMTP protocol to send mails. (IMHO not supported by arachne > .... I haven't seen any username/password field for SMTP) > So I hope this clears up things. > It would be interesting, if it is possible to SEND Mails through > telebot.net !! username/password field not needed for SMTP. I can connect to Telebot both for sending and receiving emails. Whether I connect for sending or receiving, all the messages will be relayed through my own ISP's mail servers, and this information will be found in the headers. The same applies for emails with www.subdimension.com. Please let me know if you would like to receive privately some test messages for your examination. Sam Heywood - -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:43:13 -0500 From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:05:57 +0100 (CET), Richard Menedetter wrote: <snip> >> It would be interesting, if it is possible to SEND Mails through >> telebot.net !! I replied: >username/password field not needed for SMTP. I can connect to Telebot both >for sending and receiving emails. Whether I connect for sending or >receiving, all the messages will be relayed through my own ISP's mail >servers, and this information will be found in the headers. The same >applies for emails with www.subdimension.com. Please let me know if you >would like to receive privately some test messages for your examination. Sorry, I must retract the above statement. I used to be able to SEND messages through Telebot, but that was at a time when they were still providing "web-based" email. I cannot send messages through Telebot with the kind of email service they are currently providing. Sam Heywood ------------------------------ End of arachne-digest V1 #1003 ******************************
