arachne-digest Monday, February 21 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1009
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:16:07 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: to encode, or not to encode (with ap
On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:03:24 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
> Sam Heywood wrote:
>>> At my end, I retrieved Glenn's message with both of the above files
> represented by ikons. By clicking on either one of them, they would
> display as normal text files.
> I remember back a couple of years ago I used Arachne to send a JPG image
> file as an attachment to an email message having my brother and my two
> sisters named as multiple recipients. One of my sisters uses a Mac, the
> other uses a Windows 95 machine. They received the attachment represented
> as an ikon, and they clicked on it, and voil , the image was displayed. My
> brother has also a Windows 95 machine, but he uses an email program that is
> different from that used by my sister. He received the attachment as
> though it were an encoded appended file. No ikon.
> Here is another interesting observation about attachments and another DOS
> email program:
> I can send a UUENCODED binary file with NetTamer. If the recipient has
> a Windows CE device, or if he has Windows 95, then he will receive the
> file represented as an ikon, and he can open it simply by clicking on it.
> I don't know what would happen if I were to use NetTamer to send a
> UUENCODED file to an Arachne user. It would be an interesting
> experiment. In using NetTamer to send binary files, the outgoing message
> always appears as an appended encoded file. No ikon. Somewhere along the
> transmission and retrieval process the file becomes represented as an ikon.
> It is all a great mystery to me how this all happens, but somehow the system
> does work.<<
> Sam,
> I have sent UUencoded files as attachments to people and they arrived as
> separate messages, still encoded. I made sure that the extension was .UUE so
> that they could be identified as UUencoded files by the recipients e-mail
> program. I also tried sending base64 encoded files (with extension .B64)
> with the same results. Typically, the recipients didn't have the foggiest
> idea of what to do with them.
Yes, I have had the same experience. They want to be able to click on
an ikon and instantly find the fulfillment of their wishes. If you try
to explain to them how easy it is to simply go to the MS-DOS prompt and
simply enter the command UUDECODE followed by a space and the name of the
file to be decoded, you will be shunned as some kind of a nerd and a geek.
In this new age of virri infested emails, it is much safer to send and to
receive attachments as appended UUENCODED files, because a UUENCODED file
sent in this manner, is in reality only an ascii text file. There is no
way, AFAIK, that a virus can be transmitted in this way until after the
recipient has first UUDECODED it, and then, after having decoded it, he
loads the file to be "run". A windozer can easily make the mistake of
running a program simply by clicking on an ikon. Sorry for them. The
careless way windozers transmit file attachments around to each other can
be compared to the way an improperly trained person will show off a
firearm to a friend by simply handing it over to him and neglecting to
first perform the common-sense safety procedure of physically
demonstrating to his friend that the weapon is unloaded and placed on safe.
If his friend were savvy and knowledgeable, he should not even want to take
a look at it until after this has been done.
<snip>
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:20:12 -0800
From: "Steve Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
You guys are awesome! Hang in there with me just a bit longer. This
shotgun method of problem solving is
exhilarating. All the info posted was almost overwhelming, but luckily I
had some hours today to play with it step by step. I won't even try to copy
any of your latest messages in this report. I am sure that I have neglected
to name one of you below, but please know that I am grateful to you anyway.
I had enough success today to fuel some further tenacity. I had Arachne
flying there for a few minutes . . . and I like it, I LIKE IT. Funny how
computer-related trouble is never caused by just one thing. Usually two or
three, which makes it a real slippery beast. Of course that's also true of
car engines and women.
Bob and Roger and Glenn and Michael,
You all have helped my morale. Thanks for surveying my Arachne.cfg; I did
correct the Mode to 7E1 for Compuserve and tried out your dial-up
variations. But I am quite sure now that the problem isn't in the setup.
I tried other Compuserve access numbers too.
Bob, I remember reading some of your posts on the CIS Internet Resources
forum some months ago. I think there was mention of Arachne stalls during
page loads. Do you know if that ever got resolved? That's some of my
trouble now. Even when it gets to a new page and starts loading, it will
get stuck midway. I wait and wait and finally ESC; then on occasion
pressing R will start it loading again, but only to get stuck again.
Finally it goes to 'Arachne load error'. A couple times, it loaded the
first page successfully, then I followed a link successfully, then entered a
new URL and went there okay . . . then it stalled again. Usually any
attempt to load more than the first page or second page, either URL-name or
IP number, results in 'Arachne load error'. It's as if it loses track of
the DNS. Perhaps in this area Compuserve is redirecting requests in a way
that Arachne can't follow????
Dale,
I am in Los Angeles (not the UK), which I suspect is actually 90-100 percent
of my problem.
Bart,
You suggested that I rule out connection or memory problems by trying Telnet
first. I couldn't find a copy on any of my machines (Oops! I lied --just
found it on my Windows 95 machine). HOWEVER, on a hunch I tried a Freewwweb
access number from outside my local calling area. That's when Arachne
suddenly took off. It worked beautifully, no hesitations, no stalls, no
errors. I could follow links and surf using URL names; I didn't have to
type in IP numbers. I could even load images. I turned on Smartdrv and
Arachne ran smoother yet. I tried caching onto a RAM drive, but that didn't
help much. Anyway, the problem is NOT my machine or modem or compressed
drive.
Randall Morgan,
I hope you still frequent Arachne's list and happen to read this. I met you
on the Free-Net list. You posted there your own successful Arachne.cfg for
Freewwweb. Turns out that the key to YOUR success is simply the San
Fernando access number. That number works for me too. I am in the
Glendale/Pasadena area of Los Angeles, and all the Freewwweb local access
numbers for my side of L.A. County won't work with Arachne. Thanks for your
kind attention and your referral to the Arachne list.
Sergei ,
The IP numbers you traced for me are a great help. For Freewwweb ISP, it
has proved that there must be some kind of redirection to a proxy or other
host via my local access dial-up numbers. Using one outside access number,
there was no longer any problem. But I cannot afford to use Arachne if it
means paying toll charges. I am trying to get Freewwweb techs to look up a
proxy address for my area, but I am afraid they won't bother answering if I
am not using a standard browser like Netscape or IE. They have said as much
in support notes.
Thomas,
I found the TRACERT utility installed with my Windows 95 system. Using that
I get lots of data to compare, so I still hope to find the key for using
Arachne with Freewwweb in my area. Freewwweb is the only free ISP I have
found whose Terms of Service do not rule out use of a DOS browser like
Arachne --a potentially perfect combination.
So if you guys haven't lost interest, I am copying below the TRACERT data I
got so far. I traced three Freewwweb-related URLs, one set using my local
Los Angeles access node, then another set comparing the remote
(SUCCESSFUL!!!) access number. It appears that they lease lines from
uu.net. I am hoping one of you can spot the proxy or 'native' DNS for my
local area. It's all new to me, so I don't know what to look for. Hoping
the email transfer won't mess up the columns too badly.
***First my local Los Angeles access number:***
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Tracing route to home.freewwweb.com [216.70.93.170]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 137 ms 137 ms 165 ms tnt4.lax3.da.uu.net [206.115.153.196]
2 135 ms 121 ms 120 ms 206.115.255.2
3 164 ms 123 ms 125 ms 137.ATM3-0.XR2.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[152.63.113.142]
4 123 ms 137 ms 118 ms 294.ATM2-0.TR2.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.138]
5 208 ms 188 ms 189 ms 111.ATM7-0.TR2.EWR1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.137.53]
6 190 ms 186 ms 181 ms 196.ATM6-0.XR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.65]
7 193 ms 185 ms 190 ms 188.ATM10-0-0.GW3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.157]
8 196 ms 195 ms 190 ms edge1-s0.nycdc.smartworld.net
[157.130.15.146]
9 201 ms 196 ms 196 ms home.freewwweb.com [216.70.93.170]
Trace complete.
C:\WINDOWS>tracert freewwweb.snap.com
Tracing route to home.snap.com [206.132.166.63]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 125 ms 125 ms 129 ms tnt3.lax3.da.uu.net [206.115.153.195]
2 133 ms 156 ms 113 ms 206.115.254.1
3 118 ms 116 ms 118 ms 136.ATM2-0.XR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[152.63.113.138]
4 119 ms 121 ms 119 ms 195.ATM8-0-0.BR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[152.63.113.81]
5 120 ms 151 ms 118 ms 208.50.13.1
6 137 ms 138 ms 133 ms fe0-1-0.cr2.BUR.gblx.net [207.218.173.35]
7 130 ms 130 ms 132 ms pos0-3-155M.cr1.NUQ.gblx.net [206.251.1.49]
8 137 ms 139 ms 127 ms pos0-0-0.hr3.SNV2.gblx.net [206.132.254.218]
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 206.132.188.122 reports: Destination net unreachable.
Trace complete.
Tracing route to ns.smartworld.net [216.70.64.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 122 ms 125 ms 124 ms tnt3.lax3.da.uu.net [206.115.153.195]
2 120 ms 117 ms 118 ms 206.115.254.1
3 122 ms 130 ms 125 ms 136.ATM2-0.XR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[152.63.113.138]
4 140 ms 129 ms 129 ms 195.ATM3-0.TR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.118]
5 184 ms 183 ms 186 ms 111.ATM7-0.TR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.137.130]
6 203 ms 195 ms 186 ms 199.ATM7-0.XR1.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.21]
7 190 ms 194 ms 187 ms 189.ATM8-0-0.GW3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.145]
8 235 ms 204 ms 206 ms edge1-s0.nycdc.smartworld.net
[157.130.15.146]
9 215 ms 209 ms 207 ms ns.smartworld.net [216.70.64.1]
Trace complete.
***Finally, the remote (San Fernando) access number***
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -
Tracing route to home.freewwweb.com [216.70.93.170]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 138 ms 126 ms 138 ms tnt5.san-fernando.ca.da.uu.net
[206.115.154.154]
2 137 ms 143 ms 143 ms 206.115.165.33
3 162 ms 163 ms 141 ms Fddi0-0.HR1.LAX1.ALTER.NET [137.39.40.4]
4 135 ms 157 ms 132 ms 101.ATM3-0.XR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.2]
5 137 ms 135 ms 132 ms 195.ATM3-0.TR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.118]
6 201 ms 191 ms 186 ms 111.ATM7-0.TR1.NYC1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.137.130]
7 203 ms 220 ms 188 ms 199.ATM7-0.XR1.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.21]
8 232 ms 192 ms 206 ms 189.ATM8-0-0.GW3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.145]
9 193 ms 193 ms 195 ms edge1-s0.nycdc.smartworld.net
[157.130.15.146]
10 213 ms 206 ms 196 ms home.freewwweb.com [216.70.93.170]
Trace complete.
C:\WINDOWS>tracert freewwweb.snap.com
Tracing route to home.snap.com [206.132.166.66]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 126 ms 117 ms 124 ms tnt5.san-fernando.ca.da.uu.net
[206.115.154.154]
2 135 ms 129 ms 130 ms 206.115.165.29
3 139 ms 133 ms 130 ms Fddi0-0.HR1.LAX1.ALTER.NET [137.39.40.4]
4 128 ms 130 ms 132 ms 101.ATM3-0.XR2.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.182]
5 134 ms 134 ms 139 ms 194.ATM8-0-0.BR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[152.63.113.77]
6 150 ms 129 ms 135 ms s6-0-0.br1.BUR.globalcenter.net
[157.130.225.126]
7 149 ms 169 ms 375 ms fe8-0-0.cr2.BUR.gblx.net [207.218.173.51]
8 153 ms 141 ms 147 ms pos0-3-155M.cr1.NUQ.gblx.net [206.251.1.49]
9 160 ms 165 ms 372 ms pos0-0-0.hr3.SNV2.gblx.net [206.132.254.218]
10 * 206.132.188.122 reports: Destination net unreachable.
Trace complete.
Tracing route to ns.smartworld.net [216.70.64.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 119 ms 126 ms 133 ms tnt5.san-fernando.ca.da.uu.net
[206.115.154.154]
2 138 ms 132 ms 165 ms 206.115.165.33
3 144 ms 146 ms 137 ms Fddi0-0.HR1.LAX1.ALTER.NET [137.39.40.4]
4 132 ms 137 ms 146 ms 101.ATM3-0.XR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.2]
5 142 ms 137 ms 130 ms 195.ATM2-0.TR1.LAX2.ALTER.NET
[146.188.248.114]
6 187 ms 202 ms 209 ms 111.ATM7-0.TR1.EWR1.ALTER.NET
[146.188.137.49]
7 188 ms 190 ms 230 ms 197.ATM7-0.XR1.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.53]
8 212 ms 227 ms 194 ms 189.ATM11-0-0.GW3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[146.188.179.153]
9 199 ms 211 ms 206 ms edge1-s0.nycdc.smartworld.net
[157.130.15.146]
10 206 ms 219 ms 206 ms ns.smartworld.net [216.70.64.1]
Trace complete.
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:06:13 +0200
From: "Or Botton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: AIM, mICQ, and LICQ. (was: AOL Instant Messanger)
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:56 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> Thanks, but no thanks. If it won't work with DOS, then I'm not interested.
> Neither do I want to be bothered with anything that requires one of the
> big browsers. ICQ is supposedly a proprietary thing also; however, someone
> did write a DOS version named MICQ, and it works just swell for
> communicating with the Windozers!
What I would really like to see is a port of one of the linux ICQs
that have chat and file-transfer. :)
Current DOS-mICQ dont have it.. I dont know if the Linux mICQ either,
but I do know that LICQ has it. (though I still cant install that thing.
Keeps requiring qt libraries version 2.0.2 that which I cant compile
for some reason. arg!)
Or Botton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- - "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to make sense."
- -----------------------------
http://members.xoom.com/dsdp/
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:28:42 -0500
From: "Clarence Verge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: to encode, or not to encode (with ap
On Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:03:24 -0500, Roger Turk wrote:
> Sam Heywood wrote:
>>> At my end, I retrieved Glenn's message with both of the above files
> represented by ikons. By clicking on either one of them, they would
> display as normal text files.
> Somewhere along the
> transmission and retrieval process the file becomes represented as an ikon.
> It is all a great mystery to me how this all happens, but somehow the system
> does work.<<
Sam, the representation as ikons occurs in the receivers' browser and is
dependant upon how the browser is programmed to behave upon recognizing
certain extensions. It is sometimes user programmable.
In Arachne that information would be in MIME.cfg and in Netscape it's
in "Helper Applications" I think they call it.
There is further descriptive information in the message header.
Look at the mail source and you might see stuff like:
"This is a 2 part message in mime format"
I think whether this information goes out in the header is controlled by
UseCID (Content ID) and UseCDescr (Content Description) in Arachne.cfg.
Exactly what each means is currently beyond me.
If I knew how to leave the compose window in Arachne without losing
what I've written to this point I'd quote something more relevant
to a non-text attachment. (Not feeling adventurous right now.) <g>
- - Clarence Verge
- - Using Arachne 1.50b2 for a change.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:48:17 -0500
From: Mark David Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
- -C. Fields replied:
- -Sam,
- -I don't know IMAP from UCHART. But if you want to see headers &
- -manipulate your mail without having to d/l from server, you can do that
- -at mailstart.com and probably a half dozen othe web sites. Check it out
- -and see if it will work for you; it even allows you to select more than
- -one piece of jun^H^H^He-mail to delete at the same time.
I couldn't get mailstart.com to download my mail from hotpop.com.
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:20:21 -0500, Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
> I remember several weeks ago reading a message someone posted in which
> he stated that IMAP is an internet protocol. It did not immediately
> become clear to me at the time that this protocol is very different from
> the POP3 protocol. I now understand the difference, and would like to
> actually use all the features that IMAP has to offer.
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:51:50 +12.5
From: "Bruce Burdekin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: (OT) fax and keyboard
Hello all,
First question: I have a Y2K bug - my DOS version BitFax 4.0 cannot deal
with 2000 in the scheduler date-line! does anyone know of a good DOS fax
program that will cope with Y2K, or do I have to run Windblows?
Second question: On my work computer, someone is consistently hittingg the
wrong keys and getting the thing in a tangle, but of course no-one
admits to it! What would be easiest is if there is a program around
that will copy **all** keystrokes to a file, so I can trace what they
are doing wrong!
Any (polite!) suggestions greatly appreciated.
BTW, great work with 1.6 - it seems that Michael and the team deserve a
very big pat on the back! Running on a P133/32meg, it finally rivals
MSIE4 for speed. Keep up the good work.
Bruce
- -- Arachne V1.50;beta, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://home.arachne.cz/
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:22:12 -000
From: Mike Millen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New to Arachne, and have questions
GM>> GM>Remove every occurrence of [nnn] in mime.cfg
GM>> GM> ;file/*.mes >HTM|[140]$einsight.exe -i $1 -cache=$t>$2
GM>> GM> ; ^^^^^ ;
GM>> GM>These are the memory tests that don't seem to work when using
GM>4DOS.
GM>MM> Alternatively get v1.6b1.
GM>MM> This version works perfectly with 4dos and a standard mime.cfg.
GM>MM> (For me, at least :)
GM>The strange thing is that for myself and a few others.... the [nnn]
GM>problem _first_ showed-up in v1.60b1 (I never had the problem before).
GM> (go figure.<g>)
That's with 4dos, yes?
GM>Since switching to EPPPDD.EXE loaded "high", the problem is gone even
GM>with the [nnn]s left as they were.
Hmmm... I've *always* had epppd loaded high. I don't think I tried
loading it low while I was struggling with the mime [140] problem
in earlier versions.
IME Arachne has *always* seemed a little, err, different when it came
to using memory. :) Even now I occasionally get a crash with an X-swap
error that I can never seem to replicate.
Oh well... still the best dos browser in town. :)
Mike
- --
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 06:16:21 -0500 (EST)
From: Klaus Hameyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP up!! For me too on the COMPAQ 590
Hi everyone, especially Michael Dawley -
Eureka! NETDIAL + EPPPDD did the trick for the Compaq 590.
I had tried Michael's (thank you) setup with NETDIAL + EPPPD
before (slightly altered to remove some of the underbrush) which worked
ok on the other computer but not on the COMPAQ 590.
The basic difference this time is EPPPDD. I did not load anything high
(not even a rather memory-fat mouse driver) so the memory available to
ARACHNE 1.60b1 is a bit skimpy, but the major point is it works. I can
fiddle with the details later.
For your info, if you're curious, I can send a zip file with the
files I used for PPP dialup. They are essentially parts of
Michael's (and BOBCAT's) dialup files split into pieces.
If you're interested, I can give you more details.
Thanks again, all of you, for your tips.
- - Klaus
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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 01:24:20 +0100
From: "Michael Polak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Opensource vs. Arachne
> Some parts of it might be open-sourced, but definetly not the Core.
It is not that simple. I would like to open source code of Arachne, but
first I have to find other ways how to fund Arachne Labs than licensing
Arachne source code...
- --
Michael Polak: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Arachne Labs: http://arachne.cz/
My mobile phone - up to 160 characters: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:47:53 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Arachne load error
Steve Evans wrote:
>>I think there was mention of Arachne stalls during
page loads. Do you know if that ever got resolved? That's some of my
trouble now. Even when it gets to a new page and starts loading, it will
get stuck midway. I wait and wait and finally ESC; then on occasion
pressing R will start it loading again, but only to get stuck again.
Finally it goes to 'Arachne load error'. A couple times, it loaded the
first page successfully, then I followed a link successfully, then entered a
new URL and went there okay . . . then it stalled again. Usually any
attempt to load more than the first page or second page, either URL-name or
IP number, results in 'Arachne load error'. It's as if it loses track of
the DNS. Perhaps in this area Compuserve is redirecting requests in a way
that Arachne can't follow????<<
Steve,
Arachne has had a problem of "going to sleep" while loading a page. I had
that problem really bad prior to 1.48. It would take me anywhere from 10 to
30 minutes to load www.enr.com (without prodding). Then, for some reason I
suspected that I had an unrelated problem with Arachne and reloaded it over
my existing Arachne and, voila!, the "sleep" problem went away. Another
thing that I have found that causes Arachne to "hang" is when the cache fills
up. Michael P. has set a limit on 256 items in the cache and when it reaches
that limit, Arachne just stops! Clearing the cache (and CACHE.IDX) with the
F8 key will usually get Arachne zipping along again. On one of my computers
I have Cache and CACHE.IDX on a resizeable RAM drive that clears every time I
leave Arachne; on another computer, I hit F8 after I hang up. The "sleep"
problem has not really been a problem with 1.6b1.
Hope this helps.
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
P.S. BTW, I did a "reverse search" (using SelectPhone) on the phone number
that you had for Compuserve in your ARACHNE.CFG, but couldn't come up with
that exact number. The closest number that I could come up with was
213-688-7356 (or something similar) that was a business number in Los
Angeles. Are you accessing Compuserve thru another phone system?
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:26:13 -0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (OT) fax and keyboard
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:51:50 +12.5, Bruce Burdekin wrote:
> What would be easiest is if there is a program around
> that will copy **all** keystrokes to a file, so I can trace what they
> are doing wrong!
It is easiest to simply load DOSKEY!
Sam Heywood
- -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:13:38 +0500
From: "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: If you know what's a MIF, then tell me in a jiff
Hi Folks,
I just downloaded a huge file having a "MIF" extension.
Do you know what kind of file it is? What software
do I need in order to use it or view it, and is there
a DOS version?
Sam Heywood
Net-Tamer V 1.11.2 - Registered
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:33:37 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: If you know what's a MIF, then tell me i
Sam,
I just saw a DOS program in Simtel's newsletter that will determine file type
from content. Unfortunately, that newsletter is now on my home computer and
I am at work. I will check it and get back to you when I go home for lunch.
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
Sam Heywood wrote:
>>Hi Folks,
I just downloaded a huge file having a "MIF" extension.
Do you know what kind of file it is? What software
do I need in order to use it or view it, and is there
a DOS version?<<
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:17:21 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: If you know what's a MIF, then tell me i
Sam,
I just did a quick search on the web using INFIND, searched on "mif".
The extension, .MIF is Maker Interchange Format and can be read by Adobe's
FrameMaker software and can saved in various word processing formats.
Go to www.sun.com, and search on "mif doclet"
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:03:46 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Just in case you might have missed it
Hello All;
There is at least one more unannounced improvement in 1.6b1 !
Michael has modified the mail system (both reader and composer) so if you
have switched to fullscreen mode at any time, it STICKS !!
Previously, (at least in 640x480) you could switch to fullscreen mode, read
or compose the message and then if you move/trash/send the screen mode would
collapse to your previous nonfullscreen size due to the restart and the fact
that fullscreen was not saved in Arachne.pck prior to 1.6.
This info is now saved in .pck, but it is not used by default at startup.
To cause Arachne to startup in fullscreen mode, modify your launching .bat
so instead of calling Arachne, you call Arachne -c if starting up offline
or Arachne -r if starting online.
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:38:32 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: If you know what's a MIF, then tell me in a jiff
Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I just downloaded a huge file having a "MIF" extension.
> Do you know what kind of file it is? What software
> do I need in order to use it or view it, and is there
Sounds like it's something that will leave you quite miffed if you
go to a lot of trouble to view it. <G>
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:36:23 -0800
From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: (OT) fax and keyboard
Samuel W. Heywood wrote:
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 21:51:50 +12.5, Bruce Burdekin wrote:
>
> > What would be easiest is if there is a program around
> > that will copy **all** keystrokes to a file, so I can trace what they
> > are doing wrong!
>
> It is easiest to simply load DOSKEY!
Or PCED.
But, the output doesn't go to a file, so if the computer gets locked up
it's not much help.
I do have some program here that records ALL console screen activity as long
as it's in text mode. The reason I don't remember the name is there was some
compatibility problem with one of my TSRs so I havn't used it for ~10 years.
If your useage is 100% TEXT mode and you are interested, I'll dig it out.
- - Clarence Verge
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:17:25 -0500
From: Roger Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: If you know what's a MIF, then tell me i
Sam,
Here is the information on a DOS file identifier:
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:09:23 -0500 (EST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sebastian Groeneveld)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: f-id24.zip - File Identifier: Recognizes files by contents
Keywords: simtel,msdos
Summary: Reposted by Keith Petersen
Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have uploaded to Simtel.Net:
http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/f-id24.zip
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos/fileutil/f-id24.zip 93630 bytes
f-id24.zip File Identifier: Recognizes files by contents
File Identifier v2.4 recognizes files by reading their contents. For
most formats extra information will be shown, depending on the selected
verbosity level. The output is shown in different customizable colors
for each file type. FileID can recurse into subdirectories and display
a summary for the processed files at the end.
It is possible to show Windows 95 long filenames or 4DOS/NDOS
descriptions instead of file types. Output can be sent to the standard
output device, thus making it available for redirection or piping.
Wrong extensions can be corrected and null-byte files can be removed
automatically. An error level is returned indicating the last
recognized file format.
System requirements: 80286+.
Changes: Bugs fixed, file types added, extra options.
f-id24.zip has replaced f-id22.zip.
Freeware. Uploaded by the author.
Sebastian Groeneveld
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://dracuul.tripod.com/
Hope this helps.
Roger Turk
Tucson, Arizona USA
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:29:49 +0100
From: "Bjorn Simonsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Trouble with TELNET
On 20 Feb 00 at 11:42, Dale Mentzer wrote:
> Glenn, the most current version of Pmail for DOS is 3.50 (mostly
> some small fixes with no additional features, IIRC).
That's right. But for some odd reason it's still in "preview",
and have been since it's release on Fri, 11 Jun 1999. So if anyone
wants it, it is found in the preview directory, not the ordinary
PMAIL directory:
<ftp://risc.ua.edu/pegasus-previews/pmail350.zip>
<ftp://ftp.let.rug.nl/pegasus-previews/pmail350.zip>
Here is a clip from the announcement
#begin clip
New in this version:
* Full support for Native NDS-mode operation on NetWare 4.x and 5.x
file servers (the v3.4 NDS preview would not run on NetWare 5.x).
* Word-wrapping in the message reader has been totally reworked
to handle deviant mail from some of the less-standard Internet
mail programs out there.
* Quoted text colouring in the editor and reader - you can now
display text commented with ">" in a different colour, just like the
Windows version. Configure this in your "Editor Settings"
preferences.
* Handling of Multi-part MIME messages has been considerably
improved: you can now reply to and forward parts of these
messages from the message reader.
* The folder view now marks Multipart MIME messages with an M
in the "Attachments" column, and shows a dot next to messages
for which a reply has been sent.
* Many small bug fixes, and workaround for preference clashes
between the DOS and Windows versions.
#end clip
All the best,
Bjorn
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:42:53 -0500
From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: to encode, or not to encode (with ap
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 03:28:42 -0500, Clarence Verge wrote:
> Sam, the representation as ikons occurs in the receivers' browser and is
> dependant upon how the browser is programmed to behave upon recognizing
> certain extensions. It is sometimes user programmable.
> In Arachne that information would be in MIME.cfg and in Netscape it's
> in "Helper Applications" I think they call it.
That's part of the "key" (so to speak).
- ---from mime.cfg---
file/file_id.diz TXT
- -----------------------
After decoding the attached base64 (or uuencoded) attachment.
Arachne treats it as a text file.
> There is further descriptive information in the message header.
> Look at the mail source and you might see stuff like:
> "This is a 2 part message in mime format"
> I think whether this information goes out in the header is controlled by
> UseCID (Content ID) and UseCDescr (Content Description) in Arachne.cfg.
> Exactly what each means is currently beyond me.
That's the other part of the "key".
- ---from arachne.cfg---
[mail]
MailEncoding MIME (or UUENCODE, whichever you might prefer)
[misc]
UseCID Yes (by using both "CID" and "CDescr" we increase the chances
UseCDescr Yes of the receiver "knowing" what to do with the attachment)
- ----------------------
While I'm at this "settings stuff".... these 2 settings in arachne.cfg
might also be effecting some users' ability (or inability) to get _some_
pages on the web.
(some sites require both "cookies" _and_ "http referer")
[security]
Cookies Yes
HTTPreferer Yes
- ----------------------
> If I knew how to leave the compose window in Arachne without losing
> what I've written to this point I'd quote something more relevant
> to a non-text attachment. (Not feeling adventurous right now.) <g>
Oh, that's easy.<g>
Save the message to your outbox and then "modify" it to add the file
who's name you couldn't remember while in the "compose screen".
(if you please.... it's a _screen_, not a window.<vbg>
> - Clarence Verge
> - Using Arachne 1.50b2 for a change.
v1.50b2 ?.... Ahh, stepped back-in-time a little bit???
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Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA
DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html
Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS
Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed.
http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/
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