arachne-digest Thursday, March 2 2000 Volume 01 : Number 1021 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:34:49 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: tables "eat-up" memory...... * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951946489 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Here's a sample .HTM of tables that "eat-up" memory. Link to the attached TBLS-MEM.HTM It will drop your DOS memory by about 42kb Choose any one of the links on thae page. (load error will result because the html isn't there) Go back to tbls-mem.htm and DOS mem will drop even further. Take another link. (load error) Go back again. (memory drops yet again) After several link/back, link/back actions..... CRASH!!!! Error loading font file: l:\arachne\system\PROPBN6.FNT (free memory left = 15648) Strike a key when ready . . . Another way to get it to crash... "reload" tbls-mem.htm several times. To prevent the crash... Alt+E, exit<enter> (memory will be cleared) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951946489 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML ;name=tbls-mem.htm Content-ID: arachne-namespace/c:\1send\tbls-mem.htm Content-Description: File "tbls-mem.htm" (type TEXT/HTML, size 2 KB) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <Html> <Head> <Title>Tables that eat-up memory</Title> </Head> <Body Bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" Text=3D"#000000" Link=3D"#3366CC" Vlink=3D"#663366"> <!-- Left Side Table --> <Table Width=3D"100%" Cellpadding=3D"0" Cellspacing=3D"0" Border=3D"0"> <TR NOWRAP> <TD Valign=3D"Top" HEIGHT=3D730> <Table Width=3D"155" Height=3D"100%" Border=3D"0" Cellspacing=3D"0" Cellpadding=3D"0" Align=3D"Left"> <TR Valign=3D"Top"> <TD Width=3D"155" Height=3D"100%" Background=3D"/images/links/leftback.gif"> <BR> <Table Border=3D"0" Width=3D"142" Cellpadding=3D"1" Cellspacing=3D"0" Align=3D"Right"> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <Form Action=3D"/cgi-bin/search.cgi" Method=3D"Get" Name=3D"Searchform"> <Table Border=3D"0" Cellpadding=3D"0" Cellspacing=3D"0"> <TR> <TD Rowspan=3D"3" Width=3D"5" Background=3D""> </TD> <TD Colspan=3D"3" Background=3D""> <Font Size=3D"1" Face=3D"Arial,Helvetica" Color=3D"#FFFFFF"> <B>Search</B> </Font> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Colspan=3D"3" Background=3D""> <Input Type=3D"Text" Name=3D"searchword" Maxlength=3D"100" Size=3D"15"> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Width=3D"70" Background=3D""> <img src=3D"dosonly.gif" Alt=3D"DOS only"> </TD> <TD Background=3D""> <Input Type=3D"Checkbox" Value=3D"1" Name=3D"dos" Title=3D"DOS only"> </TD> <TD Width=3D"21" Background=3D""> <Input alt=3D"search" Type=3D"Image" Value=3D"Submit" Src=3D"search.gif"> </TD> </TR> </Table> </Form> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"index.html" Class=3D"NavLeftHeader">Home</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D"leftselect.gif"> <Font Class=3D"NavLeftOn">Search Page </Font> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"2.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Two</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"3.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Three</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"4.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Four</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"5.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Five</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"6.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Six</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"7.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Seven</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"8.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Eight</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"9.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Nine</a> </TD> </TR> <TR> <TD Background=3D""> <A Href=3D"10.html" Class=3D"NavLeft">Ten</a> </TD> </TR> </Table> </TD> </TR> </Table> </TD> </TR> </Table> </Body> </Html> - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951946489-- � ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:42:08 -0800 From: Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: O.T. - NS Timestamps Hello All; Sorry about the REALLY OT post, but I would like to know if some users of NS 3.0x would do me the favor of looking in their Netscape.ini file to see if there is ANYTHING that looks like it might specify the users' Timezone. I've got the feeling that that parameter must be missing from my .ini and I haven't had any luck just sticking something likely into it. :-(( Thanks. - - Clarence Verge - -- - - Help stamp out FATWARE. As a start visit: http://home.arachne.cz/ - -- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:46:02 -0600 From: "BRIAN RENFROW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: lost & desperate Visit My Site: http://www.angelfire.com/ms2/brianspoem1/index.html Brian D. Renfrow Web Master - ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael L. Dawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 29, 2000 4:49 PM Subject: lost & desperate > Hello all, > --------- > Note: The following procedure has been outlined as a way > of Starting Over with a used HDD, to place DOS and > Arachne on it, for installation in a 486 computer. > Members of this list are encouraged to contribute > to this procedure for the benefit of the > "Lost and Desperate". > ----------------------------------------------------------- > L.D., > In one of your earlier posts you mentioned that you had 16MB of > free disk space. That may not be enough on a machine with Windows > 3.1, DOS and Arachne. I have about 200MB free on this machine, and > all runs smoothly, even AOL<g>. > I've found that with a small drive, slow processor, too many > programs, things can get out of hand. > -------------------------------------- > A solution: > ----------- > If you have a copy of Arachne 1.60b1 on a floppy, and also > your arachne.cfg file, you could format the drive, and reinstall > DOS and Arachne. Before you do that, make printed copies of your > config.sys and autoexec.bat to keep. Also, if you use a DOS > mouse driver, make a copy of it to a floppy. I use dmouse.com, > and keep it around on a floppy. > -------------------------- > The Format Room: > ------------------------- > Here's how I do it on a used drive I buy from the > computer repair shop near my house: > ------------------------------------------ > This is step-by-step: > I'm using an IBM PS/1 Essential Model 2133-W53 486SX 25 that has > been upgraded to an Evergreen 586, with 32 MB ram installed. > I have MS-DOS 6.21 backup disks made on a Toshiba T1910CS with > the backup utility. > ------------------- > Unplug the power cord from the back of the computer. > ------------------ > l. Slide the case off the computer. Unhook power and interface > cables from the installed HDD, and plug them in the used drive > to be formatted. Just lay the drive on top for now.(The four-wire > power plug on the HDD requires creative language to get it to > unplug from the installed drive. Work it side to side, not top > to bottom, and it'll come out.) > 2. Turn the computer on,(power cord installed) and take a look at > what's on the drive. Usually has WIN95. Budget about 20 minutes > for this look-see. If the drive appears ok, then proceed with the > format: (all files will be deleted, except for the manufacturer's > HDD files) > 3. With computer off, place MS-DOS disk #1 in Drive A. > 4. Turn the computer on. > 5. MS-DOS 6.21 will start, and it'll go to the setup screen. > 6. Exit F-3. Don't set up yet, you want to format first. > 7. At A:\> FORMAT C:/S > 8. Will say: blah-blah, this disk cannot be unformatted. > 9. Proceed with format "Y". > 10.You'll see this: > Verifying 407.75MB > ___percent complete (it formats the drive) > 11.When the format is done, enter volume label when prompted to > do so now. I usually just put the drive brand, "quantum410M". > 12.You still have MS-DOS disk #1 in Drive A, so, > A:\> SETUP > to install MS-DOS 6.21 on the drive. > 13.Choose" Continue Setup". > 14.It proceeds with setup. > (There's three disks) You now have MS-DOS 6.21 on the > drive. Scandisk can be run now, if time allows. > At this point, I unhook the cables from the drive, and set it > aside, waiting for a computer that needs it. > ----------------------- > You can set up Arachne 1.60b1 by placing your Arachne disk > in Drive A, and > A:\>arcn16b1 (enter). > ------------------ > After installation, I place my working arachne.cfg file in > the directory c:\arachne.(Then I ALT-D and go surfing) > http://www.angelfire.com/ms/telegram/arachne.html > Here's how to get your arachne.cfg off your floppy and > into c:\arachne in DOS: > ----------------- > cd arachne > rename arachne.cfg arachne.old > cd c:\ > a:\ > copy arachne.cfg c:\arachne > ---------------- > Now you should have your working arachne.cfg in the > directory c:\arachne. > If you use an .acf file, place it there also, in DOS: > a:\> copy myacf.acf c:\arachne > --------------- > At the C:\ prompt, you can use the EDIT program to look at > these files. > -------------- > Your a.bat file should be in the root directory. Arachne > installs it in the first directory in the path, and if > you make changes to your path, it can't be found by Arachne > to start from any directory. > ------------- > You should be able to start Arachne 1.60b1 now, and connect > to the internet. > Things you are going to want to do next: > Look at a memory report in Arachne. > Send these in to the list for everyone to review for you: > l. Your config.sys > 2. Your autoexec.bat > 3. Your mem.txt > To create a mem.txt, at the c:\> prompt: > mem/c > mem.txt (enter) > When connected to the internet in Arachne: > ALT-E (Shell out to DOS). You'll be at C:\>ARACHNE > then: > mem/c > mem.txt (enter) > This will give the placement of EPPPD.EXE, whether it's > in Conventional Memory, or loaded high. > --------------------------------------- > L.D., > You could visit your local computer repair shop, and for > anywhere from $20-35 they can sell you a drive that they > have removed from a machine brought in for HDD upgrade, > and follow the above procedure to get a working useful > drive. > If you have the money, they can install it for you, and > place DOS on it, ready for you to take home and install > Arachne. > My PS/1 required no BIOS configuration of the new drive at > all. Neither does my Tandy. I can plug used drives of > 120, 130, 270 MB in both with no problem. The PS/1 takes > those, plus the 410, 420MB drives also. > Other motherboards may take you into the setup utility > when a new drive is detected, and may autodetect it, > and allow you to proceed. If, when you plug the new drive > in, you get taken to the setup utility, you can stop if > you get cold feet, and reinstall the original one. > You could format it, however. > -------------------------------- > Note: > If the HDD is big enough, and the final installation > requires it, WIN 3.1 can be installed after the DOS installation > above. This operating system will want to set up a very large > swap area, sometimes 100MB or so, for it's use. > ------------------------------- > Hope this helps. > Michael L. Dawley > Pearl, Mississippi > > -- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client > -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:53:16 +0100 (MET) From: Bernie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service Michael wrote: >It is possible that I will have some troubles with military service >in my country. I hope I will manage 1.60 stable release before they "got >me". I also hope to avoid this trouble either for health reasons or >to serve "alternative service", not in army, but it may have negative >effect on amount of time I can spend improving Arachne :-( The only tip I can give on this (I never had to use it myself due to my, almost, lack of vision on my left eye) is to try and get sick around when they test how good you are physically (I'll have to assume they do this). By doing so they can't claim that you are deliberatly doing your worst. Still that wount help you from the civil (or in your words alternative) service. >I think that compulsory military service should be outlawed in all >countries worldwide. I am absolutely _not interested_ in serving in any >army of any country in the world, but Czech laws give me very little choice, >and "alternative service" is kind of punishment for people who refuse >to go to the army anyway. Lucky for me I became Swedish "offically" (I was earlier Danish - but I haven't even lived there) before they got the cleaver idea of demanding me to travel to Denmark. But I agree with you Michael, since there's (almost) no threat from any of the fellow neighbours in almost any country around the world (except the Middle East and India/Pakistan) I don't see the point of destroying so much time for people that have no interest of it. (Not to mention the ammount of money for the goverment). On the other hand the army totaly consisting of professionals often get into other kinds of trouble - since they don't know much from the civil life fixing small things that need to be done while in the field will require additionall staff. IMHO there shouldn't be any armies at all. >Do you think Internet can help to achieve this goal ? As a last resort there may be some "computer division" (stopping crackers from reaching vital data - or crack the oppositions side) - that would probably suit you better. As a side note the Swedish military computer division has as a goal to be able to break into any other countries databases. Perhaps that's the reason you get away very easily (two years probation (sp?)) after getting into Pentagon etc. here. ;-) //Bernie http://bernie.arachne.cz/ DOS programs, Star Wars ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:53:51 +0000 From: Charles Boisvert and Catherine Clinton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Troubles with military service >I think that compulsory military service should be outlawed in all >countries worldwide. So do I. I was lucky to do some work in an English university instead of going to the army (the French military service was scrapped a couple of years later). A friend of mine from Turkey wasn't so lucky though. He had to abandon his PhD to go and raze villages in Kurdistan instead :-( >Do you think Internet can help to achieve this goal? It will take time. I'm currently trying to set up a web site that would allow individuals from "enemy" countries (for example, the UK and Serbia) to meet accross the net. Charles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 23:00:27 +0100 (CET) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) Subject: tables "eat-up" memory...... Hi "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: GM> Here's a sample .HTM of tables that "eat-up" memory. GREAT !!!! Glenn, I think you have found (one/the ?) source of the memory leak !! Michael ?? (PS: I'm sorry for you're being forced to go to army/public service the only reason I'm still here, is that they lost my papers, and so it took them VERY long to process, and than a new law came, that you are able to finish university first .... I hope they don't change their minds too soon ... and than I will do public service instead of army ... ) GM> Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA CU, Ricsi - -- Richard Menedetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 7659421] {RSA-PGP Key avail.} - -=> Questions, questions! Does it ever end?! <=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:21:44 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: O.T. - NS Timestamps On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:42:08 -0800, Clarence Verge wrote: > Hello All; > Sorry about the REALLY OT post, but I would like to know if some > users of NS 3.0x would do me the favor of looking in their Netscape.ini > file to see if there is ANYTHING that looks like it might specify the > users' Timezone. > I've got the feeling that that parameter must be missing from my .ini > and I haven't had any luck just sticking something likely into it. :-(( Nope. Couldn't find anything that even remotely resembled "timezone setting". (NS v3.01 for Win3.x) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. Keep the 'windows' closed. http://arachne.browser.org/ http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:43:01 +0100 From: "Christoph Belitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DNS-Server of talknet.de Marie Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maybe this helps (cut'n'paste from nslookup) > Non-authoritative answer: > proxy.tli.de internet address = 195.252.143.35 > proxy.tli.de internet address = 195.252.143.3 > Authoritative answers can be found from: > tli.DE nameserver = ns.tli.DE > tli.DE nameserver = ns2.tli.DE > ns.tli.DE internet address = 195.252.142.38 > ns.tli.DE internet address = 195.252.142.7 > ns.tli.DE internet address = 195.252.142.39 > ns.tli.DE internet address = 195.252.142.6 > ns2.tli.DE internet address = 194.192.187.132 next time I'll use nslookup on my own ;) From: "Sergei Kramar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christoph, > there are 4 DNS servers for talknet.de domain > primary 195.252.142.71, secondary 195.252.142.72 or > primary 195.252.142.103, secondary 195.252.142.104 thank you so much. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:34:24 -0500 From: "Glenn McCorkle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Windem nodems? * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951950064 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:17:25 -0000, Mel Evans wrote: > Hi Glenn, > Send me the zip file, then what do I do with it ? (Don't be rude now!) You didn't _really_ want me to answer that question..... Did you???<g> Seriously, just place Arachne.pif on your desktop. Spid.ico goes in the same directory with Arachne itself. That's it. Double click the Arachne icon on your desktop and "Kiss M$IE goodbye"<g> Since you'll be doing this from within W95/98... the drivers needed for that "Wontmodem" will still be in memory. The dialer (miniterm.exe), and Arachne itself will be able to access it. BTW, I hope no-one minds that I'm sending this .ZIP file to the list. (it only added 1,528 bytes to the size of this eMail) - -- Glenn McCorkle [EMAIL PROTECTED] North Jackson, Ohio, USA DOS prog. for QV cameras http://www.angelfire.com/id/glenndoom/qvplay.html Other stuff http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Arachne, The Web Browser for DOS Open the 'DOOR' to the WWW. 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So unless Arachnoids save the results pages with another browser, they'll never get to see them in all their Arachne-specific glory :-( Before Michael is required to defend the honour of his motherland, or push a hospital trolley, maybe he could look at this problem that has affected others too. The table cell <td height="n"> attribute also needs to be implemented. You can take a look (not using Arachne) at the search form at switch.to/arachne, where it points at the Arachne Chat archive. There's a test page, search.htm, in the same folder (which isn't linked-to). There the search form points at the mail archive for _this_ list. The Atomz.com search even allows searching within PDF documents. Jake Good luck Michael! In my idealistic youth I decided I could not continue into a career as a control engineer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 01:31:25 +0100 From: "W. J. Hoogstraten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Troubles with military service On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 01:04:59 +0100, Michael Polak wrote: > I think that compulsory military service should be outlawed in all > countries worldwide. I am absolutely _not interested_ in serving in any > army of any country in the world, but Czech laws give me very little choice, > and "alternative service" is kind of punishment for people who refuse > to go to the army anyway. I was always afraid for serving such %@#$@%@. The only thing I did was convincing them that I was/am useless in such an environment. They think I'm a non-violent lunatic, unable to deal with authority (they're right). But there was no 'psychiatric punishment' and I don't mind the consequences of their huge dossiers about me. > Do you think Internet can help to achieve this goal ? I don't know, but we can try! Best regards, Willy J. Hoogstraten. - - End of message - ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:35:07 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 286 memory Those with 286's that don't have EMM, I have found another file from QOS that is supposedly for EXT memory on 286's. I have no idea what it does, how it works, or anything. <G> It's a sys file, so I imagine it would go in config.sys file ... it may have quite a bit of help built in but I haven't had time to play with it. If anyone wants to fool with it to see what it is & how it might work, write private & ask me for qext.sys l.d. - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:30:31 -0400 From: "L.D. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Cache size * This message is in MIME format. - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951953435 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit **** Warning **** *** If not interested in this thread... Delete this message NOW !!! **** Glenn & Bernie are WRONG! The situation is precisely as I said it was: Only the *INDEX* stops at 256 files. The cache itself can contain as many files as the HDD can hold. When I dug through Glenn's message, and finally figured out what he was doing, I did something very simple. I went to the cache and did a DIR at the prompt. Seeing that the proof of what I say was there, I then did DIR>cache.txt That directory listing of CACHE is appended hereto. You will note that it has in excess of 400 files. You should also know that I sure as heck wouldn't cheat in any way to prove this simple a point. l.d. ==== On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 01:32:58 -0500, Glenn McCorkle wrote: > OK, I've kept out of this one long enough.<vbg> <snip> > 1) 001.jpg was loaded and converted to .BMP (that .bmp was saved in $c) > 2) contents of cache.idx were placed into testidx.htm > 3) first divider line was placed into testidx.htm > 4) directory listing of $c was placed into testidx.htm > 5) second divider line was placed into testidx.htm > Steps 1 through 5 were repeated 299 more times. > All of this resulted in this file..... > TESTIDX HTM 15223452 2-29-00 10:35p > That's right, > We now have a 15mb file which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt > that what Bernie has been saying is in-fact 100% correct. > "256 _is_ the limit". - -- Arachne V1.60;b1, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/ - --MIME-multipart-message-boundary-951953435 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN ;name=cache.txt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 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29/02/00 1:50 51807032 TXT 4494 29/02/00 1:50 51807038 HTT 646 29/02/00 1:50 51807038 TXT 3103 29/02/00 1:50 51807039 HTT 650 29/02/00 1:50 51807039 TXT 2606 29/02/00 1:50 51857840 HTT 447 29/02/00 15:57 51857840 HTM 6788 29/02/00 15:57 51892378 HTT 513 01/03/00 1:33 51892378 GIF 583 01/03/00 1:33 51807909 HTT 536 29/02/00 2:05 51807909 GIF 209 29/02/00 2:05 51808023 HTT 564 29/02/00 2:07 51808023 GIF 2266 29/02/00 2:07 51892380 HTT 520 01/03/00 1:33 CACHE TXT 0 01/03/00 18:22 51807910 HTT 549 29/02/00 2:05 51807910 GIF 1489 29/02/00 2:05 51807911 HTT 550 29/02/00 2:05 51806860 HTT 646 29/02/00 1:47 51806860 TXT 3434 29/02/00 1:47 51807911 GIF 51 29/02/00 2:05 51807914 HTT 699 29/02/00 2:05 51807914 GIF 3687 29/02/00 2:06 51808025 HTT 573 29/02/00 2:07 51808025 GIF 1242 29/02/00 2:07 51806865 HTT 709 29/02/00 1:47 51806865 JPG 2863 29/02/00 1:47 51808026 HTT 570 29/02/00 2:07 51808026 GIF 1761 29/02/00 2:07 51808029 HTT 573 29/02/00 2:07 51808029 GIF 1202 29/02/00 2:07 51808031 HTT 564 29/02/00 2:07 51808031 GIF 1329 29/02/00 2:07 51857851 HTT 499 29/02/00 15:57 51857851 GIF 723 29/02/00 15:57 51807930 HTT 652 29/02/00 2:05 51807930 GIF 12048 29/02/00 2:05 51858241 HTT 300 29/02/00 16:04 51858241 TMP 0 29/02/00 16:04 51808012 HTT 545 29/02/00 2:06 51808012 GIF 199 29/02/00 2:06 51808013 HTT 576 29/02/00 2:06 51808013 GIF 6625 29/02/00 2:06 51808014 HTT 538 29/02/00 2:06 51808014 GIF 51 29/02/00 2:06 51808017 HTT 558 29/02/00 2:06 51808017 GIF 2982 29/02/00 2:07 51808021 HTT 558 29/02/00 2:07 51808021 GIF 1216 29/02/00 2:07 51808022 HTT 566 29/02/00 2:07 51808022 GIF 170 29/02/00 2:07 51806869 HTT 675 29/02/00 1:47 51806869 GIF 9637 29/02/00 1:48 51806871 HTT 570 29/02/00 1:47 51806871 GIF 3112 29/02/00 1:47 51808032 HTT 545 29/02/00 2:07 51808032 GIF 755 29/02/00 2:07 51857881 HTT 511 29/02/00 15:58 51857881 GIF 483 29/02/00 15:58 51806879 HTT 528 29/02/00 1:48 51806879 GIF 1322 29/02/00 1:48 51808054 HTT 637 29/02/00 2:07 51808054 GIF 3672 29/02/00 2:07 51808336 HTT 490 29/02/00 2:12 51808336 GIF 35 29/02/00 2:12 51857660 HTT 510 29/02/00 15:54 51857660 GIF 4374 29/02/00 15:54 51806865 BMP 13574 29/02/00 1:48 51857668 HTT 473 29/02/00 15:54 51857885 HTT 514 29/02/00 15:58 51857885 GIF 480 29/02/00 15:58 51858060 HTT 643 29/02/00 16:01 51858060 GIF 10053 29/02/00 16:01 51858064 HTT 638 29/02/00 16:01 51858064 GIF 3839 29/02/00 16:01 51858266 HTT 545 29/02/00 16:04 51858266 GIF 1170 29/02/00 16:04 51806934 HTT 670 29/02/00 1:48 51806934 GIF 2520 29/02/00 1:48 51806935 HTT 645 29/02/00 1:48 51806935 GIF 209 29/02/00 1:48 51858140 HTT 867 29/02/00 16:02 51858140 HTM 52841 29/02/00 16:02 51807046 HTT 649 29/02/00 1:50 51807046 GIF 1322 29/02/00 1:50 51858269 HTT 434 29/02/00 16:04 51858269 GIF 43 29/02/00 16:04 51806939 HTT 629 29/02/00 1:49 51806939 GIF 62 29/02/00 1:49 51858273 HTT 538 29/02/00 16:04 51858360 HTT 529 29/02/00 16:06 51808405 HTT 487 29/02/00 2:13 51808405 GIF 49 29/02/00 2:13 51808407 HTT 490 29/02/00 2:13 51808407 GIF 49 29/02/00 2:13 51858360 HTM 8879 29/02/00 16:06 51858369 HTT 538 29/02/00 16:06 51858369 GIF 235 29/02/00 16:06 51858372 HTT 546 29/02/00 16:06 51808421 HTT 504 29/02/00 2:13 51808421 JPG 9913 29/02/00 2:13 51858372 GIF 3590 29/02/00 16:06 51858377 HTT 540 29/02/00 16:06 51808438 HTT 520 29/02/00 2:13 51808438 JPG 5903 29/02/00 2:16 51858377 GIF 1310 29/02/00 16:06 51858381 HTT 540 29/02/00 16:06 51858381 GIF 1346 29/02/00 16:06 51858384 HTT 540 29/02/00 16:06 51808491 HTT 512 29/02/00 2:14 51808491 JPG 2600 29/02/00 2:14 51806941 HTT 649 29/02/00 1:49 51806941 GIF 3333 29/02/00 1:49 51857670 HTT 488 29/02/00 15:54 51857670 GIF 474 29/02/00 15:54 51857673 HTT 467 29/02/00 15:54 51857673 GIF 429 29/02/00 15:54 51806958 HTT 658 29/02/00 1:49 51806958 GIF 1964 29/02/00 1:49 51858229 HTT 552 29/02/00 16:03 51858229 HTM 9627 29/02/00 16:03 51806960 HTT 652 29/02/00 1:49 51806960 GIF 2425 29/02/00 1:49 51806963 HTT 648 29/02/00 1:49 51806963 GIF 208 29/02/00 1:49 51807002 HTT 652 29/02/00 1:50 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