On Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:31:38 +0200 (CEST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter)
wrote:
> Hi
> "Bastiaan Edelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BE> Systems based on M$ WORD (Office) sent that string for all 8-bit
> BE> caracters even if there is no need to do so because the caracter is
> BE> in the ISO-8859-1 caracterset.
> wrong ....
The four special caracters used in 'Subject bar' above are in the ISO
caracterset and are displayed OK by both Arachne and Outlook.
I typed them with ALT 232=� 234=� 231=� 163=�
I typed them with Arachne which use ISO-8859-1
> MIME must be used if 8 bit characters are used.
> Only if the line consists of pure ASCII (7 bit) than there is no need for
> MIME encoded to/from/subject
Well if Arachne encodes with ISO-8859-1 this is legal and WORKS
> It is NOT legal to assume iso-latin-1 as characterset, because there is no
> default 8 bit character set !!!
Arachne default can be set to ISO-8859-1 and not to 437 or 850, anyway I
tried to do so since I prefer 437... but if all internet uses 8859 then
we have to live with that.
My DOS is still running under 437 in autoexec.bat but Arachne ISO-8859
overrules this.
> So if 8 bit characters are used, the program _MUST_ state what characterset
> was used !
> BE> If the caracter is in the caracterset, e.g. accented letters like � �
> BE> and caracters like that it is possible to type them as ASCII-code
> BE> using the ALT key. Alt 200 = E
> BE> 201 = �
> Yes ... but this depends on the installed codepage.
> So you need to specify which characterset the writer used.
> (alt 201 is not the same sign in CP437 and in CP850 !!)
> So you say character number 201 in iso-latin-1 characterset.
Of course... you are very right in this... but the question that started
this discussion stated that ISO-8859-1 was used.
Three ! conversion tables are pasted onto my keyboard for the special
caracters plus several conversion programs: 437, 850 and 8859.
This and four different languages makes life of an editor of a magazine
to a complicated job; files in ASCII, WORD and WP are used.
> BE> You can also use the ALT key to make all the special caracters from
> BE> the ISO-8859-1 caracterset instead of &#... TRY IT! Special attention
> BE> to Alt 160 = space and this space will not be ommited by HTML !!!!!
> Again this is not allowed !!!!
But it WORKS in Arachne, Netscape and Outlook...
> Not everybody uses iso-latin-1.
> If your local charcterset is different, than the page will be wrongly
> displayed !!
> (this _IS_ the reason why escaping (&...) was introduced)
IMHO HTML is based on ISO-8859... I would be very happy if I could make
Arachne display a 'alpha' or a 'ohmega' on the screen.
The tables that define "&... escaping" are stating ONLY 8859 caracters,
so what's wrong in using ALT+... ?
CU AGN Bastiaan
> BE> CU Bastiaan
> CU, Ricsi
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