Richard Menedetter wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> 12 Oct 2000, Clarence Verge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> CV> My experience with Linux has been limited to relatively small
> CV> hand-made distros like Dragon and Pygmy.
> Than you shouldn't generalize ...
Well, both DRAGON and PYGMY are only twice as big as TSX so IMNVHO it is
a fair generalization. You can't expect me to want to compare 3-4 Mb
of TSX with 600 Mb of Redhat. Or can you ? :)
Hi Richard;
It's good to hear the other side of the discussion.
> CV> What other useful language is there ? (expect assembler/machine
> CV> language)
> There are many ... it allways depends on what you want to do.
>
> And to be honest direct assembler is not useable for some (most) projects.
Mostly because there are so few programmers left.
> It is absolutely NOT portable, debugging is extremely hard.
Portability is a red herring. It is always trotted out, and almost never
used. 99.9% of platforms are the same.
It IS portable if it runs on any i86 from an economic point of view.
I'm not promoting THAT piece of crap though.
Debugging is extremely EASY. The rules are ironclad and known.
With "C", who knows WHAT the heck it's trying to do ?
> Project size is extremely limited.
There are two ways to read that. Do you grade a project's desirability as
being in direct proportion to the number of gigabytes you can waste ?
Because there are so few programmers left and, I agree it takes longer to
write the ASM project, there could be difficulty finding the manpower.
> With the new generation CPUs even that will not be possible, because
> handmade code will be slower than C compiled !!!!
Ha. (Technical term)
> no question that nowadays handoptimized assembler is much faster ...
> but it takes 100+ times to write it ....
Correct. 100 is about right. Because you don't have to know anything to
throw together a few lines of "C".
I'm NOT saying that "C" programmers in general don't know anything about
the hardware or the protocols they must deal with. That isn't the point.
I AM saying that a random individual with no knowledge of the hardware
CAN write a "Hello world" in "C" 100 times more quickly than in "ASM".
> CU, Ricsi
CU2,
- Clarence Verge
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