Hi Folks,
LD Wrote:
> It's not just the vendors. Even the 'reputable' public has fallen for
> the MS chokehold ...
> I went to the Sony Jeopardy site [now on my list for slowest loading site
> Ive run across in ages 4:05 with 23 embedded object] to send some
> feedback and couldn't find an address to write to! Even the feedback to
> webmaster -- about javasnit and frames & no true "contact" possible --
> was impossible; I used the e-dress in the code that the cgi was supposed
> to send to, and that mail came back today as 'no such' ...
> l.d.
====
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:29:54 -0000, Neil Smith wrote:
>><snip> since almost all
>> vendors now have system requirements for their browsers that can only be
>> considered astronomical.
Ain't that the truth. I have been waging a one-man campaign against
the Royal Automobile Club of Victoria (Australia) about their website.
It is a mixture of javascript and bad HTML. It also refuses to let you
in unless you are using Netscape or IE versions 4.0 or better.
I quote their latest reply - any suggestions ? I have come to the
end of my good manners. I have been a member of RACV for more years than I
care to think about.
<Quote:>
> Dear Mr Clarke,
>
> Further to correspondence from Karen Logan dated Monday 6 November, 2000
> I have had in-depth discussions with a number of web site professionals
> in the industry in relation to your concerns regarding your inability to
> access the RACV web site.
>
> In developing www.RACV.com.au, consideration was given to the choice of
> browsers which would be used to access our site. It was decided to
> develop the site so it could be accessed with the most commonly used
> browsers available free of charge to our members.
>
> You are correct in saying that internet sites can be developed to be
> accessed by both Javascript enabled and disabled browsers. There are
> extra costs involved in doing this and in an effort to ensure judicious
> use of it's members funds, RACV decided to save costs by developing the
> site for Javascript enabled browsers. Doing this allows us to add more
> functionality and creativity to the site.
>
> As advised by Helen Haralam, Category Manager - Member Services, you are
> able to download a Javascript enabled browser free of charge from the
> internet which will enable you to access our site. RACV does not plan
> to spend additional money in converting the site to a Javascript
> disabled browser.
>
> Mr Clarke, I hope we have been able to sufficiently answer your concerns
> in relation to www.racv.com.au.
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> {Signed}
>
> JOHN MOUNT
> Chief Manager - Group Marketing & eCommerce
> Royal Automotive Club of Victoria (RACV) Ltd
> Level 4, 422 Little Collins Street
> Melburne Vic 3000
>
> Tel: (03) 9627 3953
> Fax:(03) 9627 3537
>
> "The information contained in this email message is confidential, and it
> may not be intended for your use. If you are not the intended recipient,
> any use, disclosure, copying or retention of this document is
> unauthorised. You are asked to please delete the document immediately.
>
> If you have received this document in error, please telephone RACV on
> (03) 9703 6253 in Melbourne, Australia."
<End Quote>
With this sort of attitude, a browser such as Arachne is really up
against it. Even Opera v. 3.6 doesn't get me past the "you've got the wrong
browser" screen.
I personally suspect that they have simply chosen a "web developer" who
uses a proprietary webpage software, and don't know how to hand-write the
HTML that would cope with any browser.
Their URL is: http://www.racv.com.au if anyone wants to take a look.
Regards,
Ron
Ron Clarke http://homepages.valylink.net.au/~ausreg/music.html
-- This mail was written by user of Arachne, the Ultimate Internet Client