Alright now, Howard ... enough of this crappy nit-picking!
I'm certain all of us know the difference between www and e-mail and
newsgroups. Simply because one misspeaks does not mean one is dumb, nor
ignorant, nor deserving of chastisement.
NetTamer is probably the best program for both accessing nntp, and
handling ng messages out there; being able to set up each desired ng
to download just subject, or download all messages, or download just the
messages indicated is pretty darned good. However I can no longer use
my [registered] copy of NetT because it cannot operate on a LAN ... it
works dial-in only.
As to how much work *I* think adding NNTP support to Arachne would be ...
you don't know that and don't have the right to assume you *do* know.
With Arachne as flexible as it is, however, I see little problem with
integrating a decent piece of NNTP-access/"full service" code into the
package, either by default or [maybe even better] as an APM.
And I do know that if Dave [of NetTamer] can write a decent program for
handling all aspects of NNTP, then Michael and his minions *MOST* surely
can.
As for Yarn, from what the website says it would be pretty much useless
to me:
"
PC Yarn offline mail and news reader
PC Yarn is a suite of programs for your personal computer, used to store
and read USENET news and mail downloaded from a USENET host. "
I don't *need* an OFFline reader; ng messages can be read *and* replied
to using any editor of choice. It's even simple to create a single
flatfile containing all out-going messages to UseNEt. I don't need a
fancy message database, and I don't need software filters, and I don't
need a program that apparently needs other programs to provide full
UseNet functionality. *AND* I don't want to be required to be in my
shell account and using server-based software to simply select, and
selectively read, messages in ngs NOR to send messages back to ngs.
Now, instead of trying to play one-up on each other based upon certain
advanced and superior personal knowledge [which can make one look the
total fool at times], how about we work at being helpful ... and if
helpful just plain ain't possible, then follow Thumper's Rule.
l.d.
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On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:20:39 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Eisenberger)
wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 08:39:08 -0500,
> "Samuel W. Heywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think L.D. is correct in saying that NetTamer is the only "html capable"
>> DOS application that supports direct access to newsgroups by means of an
>> email client.
> It's been quite some time since I've tried Net-Tamer, but I don't
> recall accessing newsgroups by means of an email client. I thought
> it was the news (nntp) client that did that.
>> I would like to point out that I know of at least one DOS
>> email client that supports newsgroup access, and that is PC-PINE, but
>> PC-PINE isn't "html capable". I don't know if there are any other DOS
>> email clients other than PC-PINE and NetTamer that offer newsgroup access.
> I'm not sure why you are treating nntp and Usenet as some sort of
> add-on to the WWW or e-mail. As far as I am concerned, they are
> distinct, and are best handled by specialized software. Newsgroup
> access is one thing, but, IMHO, Net-Tamer and PC-Pine can't hold
> a candle to Yarn and other dedicated DOS newsreaders.
> Also, when talking about e-mail and news clients, I think it is
> important to distinguish between the transport or protocol part
> (smtp, pop3, imap, nntp) and the message reading part and between
> online and offline news reading.
>> I too would like very much to see newsgroup access built into
>> Arachne's email client.
> That's fine, but I am suggesting that there is more to it than
> you and L.D. seem to think.
-- Arachne V1.70;rev.3, NON-COMMERCIAL copy, http://arachne.cz/
