On Fri, 11 May 01 13:17:28 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (howard schwartz) wrote:
>Even if PAP/CHAP is used for initial connects, there are separate
>programs that often require additional ID/passwords. For instance,
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>I have also, on occasion found it useful to disable PAP/CHAP and
>use a terminal emulator to access my ISP, in order to troubleshoot
>problems that happen at/or just after connection. Then you can see
>the prompts, if and when the PPP characters start coming, etc.
Howard, I only did this AFTER I started to get my authentication
failure.....normally, with my usual ISP, my normal Arachne PAP works
just fine.
>> "login and password prompts"? I hope that someday it will dawn on some
>> members of this list that we are the only ones who have ever heard of
>> encountering these when dialing an ISP in these days (ie. post 1995 -
>> perhaps earlier). Everyone is using PAP/CHAP, if not they are probably
>> limited to a speed for the user at 14 400 since they haven't upgraded for
>> ages. All ISPs support DOS, they may not know it - especially considering
>> that some people suggests scripts and weird stuff that they don't know
>> anything about. They shouldn't need either, and nor should anyone in the
>> known world, since this technique is obsolete and offers nothing extra to
>> make it worth the trouble to use and take into account.
>> //Bernie
I don't know why you included Bernie's quote here.....I fully agree...
and don't mess around with anything but Arachne's normal PAP/CHAP, but,
when this failed, I dropped to a terminal status to see what was going
on...AND...found out that is was the "PAP Authentication Failed" that
was happening..
NOW...WHY..??? do you think this might be....??? Is this ISP using
some non-standard type of authentication...???.....other than Arachne's
normal, standard PAP/CHAP...???
I've noticed allusions to "Ms-PAP" or "MS-CHAP"...is this some wierd,
non-standard, excluding type twist on the PAP/CHAP standard...??
I'm google-searching and coming up with quite a bit of interesting,
useful information, but I wanted you folks to throw in your thoughts,
to maybe help me narrow my field of study....<g>
.....gregy
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