Hi Gregory!

08 Dec 2001, "Gregory J. Feig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 GF> ..but...NT never had a DOS of its own....
For what would it need one ?!?
It would extremely compromize stability (like in win95/98/me)
and NT would not gain anything, over an emulation.

NT never ever would want to give direct hardware access, because every DOS
program would than be able to kill the system.
(this is no problem for singletasking DOS, where there is only one program
running)

 GF> IBM went on to perfect OS/2 into an excellent operating system...
OS/2 was/(is) a good system but VERY wide away from perfect.

 GF> M$Z went on to overwrite/overbloat into the NT system...
NT 4 was really *NOT* bloated ... win2k was compareably OK ...
W XP is bloat.

What do you learn -> bloat is introduced if M$ thinks that the OS is going
to be used for home use.

NT4 had a technically good kernel.
Thanks to its OS/2 heritage, and to the chief programmer Dave Cutler.
(from VMS)

Cutler left M$ because Gates wanted to include the graphics driver into
kernelspace, and improve performance (and decrease stability)
Cutler left because he felt that this was a fatal decision ...

M$ until now lives from this relatively good kernel.

 GF> they never got around to putting a DOS in it, because billygoat
 GF> decided that DOS was gonna die
NO !!!
Bill Gates cares a shit if DOS dies or not !!!

His goal is money and power !!!!

But DOS can't sell ...
- the freaks want a multitasking system with a good TCP/IP stack
- the complete newbies, want a mouse and many graphical 'assistents'
- the normal user wants a mouse and broad software choice of known prgs
- tha gamer wants the latest games

The only portion where DOS was historically strong is the last one, and
Bill Gates changed that with DirectX ...
but without his intervention this would have also come ... because most
gamers want to play over the internet, and this is cumbersome in DOS.

M$ does what it thinks the people want, and they pretty much are correct.
They would sell dog sh*t as long people would buy it.

 GF> Sam....I have never heard, read, or seen any info about DOS support in
 GF> NT, except that there is none.
there is
you have a DOS emulation layer, which was improved in 2000 and much
improved in XP.
But NT can't grant direct hardware access ... most of the rest should work.

 GF> ......gregy

CU, Ricsi

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