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On Sun, 20 Jan 02 21:44:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (howard schwartz)
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> Now that a few major old and new OSs are available for the PC
> (e.g., dos, windows 8x, windows xt, linux, Os2, - -) I find myself
> morning the choice of having to give up wonderful tools
> ported to operating system A, but not to OS B, etc. Arachne is a prime
> example. We all know that arachne does not deal with https, with
> java, and javascript. We also know the sheer ton-age of bad htmp
> markup on web pages keeps increasing, so that almost any browser
> needs the bandwidth of DSL or equivalent to load all the frames, and
> forms, and images, and and -- and run all the cgi scripts, etc. Because
> of this, I find lynx gives me some kind of chance at access to a larger
> number of sites, on DOS, than arachne.
Hi Howard,
I think we all recognise some of this.
Some tools in OS A do not have a good equivalent in OS B and so we have
to swith between the systems.
I use DOS and Win95 and fireing up Win is time-consuming. In practice I
start up DOS first. Do all the tasks and then go over to Win.
Sometime I have to go back and in most cases the DOS-box in Win will do
this quickly. But... some tools will not run correctly from the DOS-box.
Arachne is one of them. Editting etc. is OK but when it comes to dialing
Arachne stucks due to a lack of memmory. To much resident (win)progs in
memory.
WordStar is another example. Seems that something is wrong with the
temp-files. All looks OK but when you finish your job your work is lost.
Trouble with PCI-slots in DOS (soundblaster) although the monitor uses
PCI-slot in DOS and win95.
Two file managers are used and can be used over both OS's: NORTON
commander for DOS and Windows commander for win. This is a great help!
If a linux file manager exists... don't know.
> Similar developments with other internet staples, such as ESMTP
> authorization dialogues for email, clients that send everybody an html
> version of any message- even with one word in it- are making it harder
> and harder for dos-based programs to deal with the evolving internet.
> This got me wondering if it is possible to switch between different
> OSs, as quickly and easily as one switches from one program or
> task to another, using a windows desktop.
> As of now, switching to another OS usually involves a laborious and
> relatively time consuming rebooting of the PC (e.g., the average
> reboot is probably minutes, where switching to MS whatever takes less
> than a second).
> The factors preventing fast OS switching that I can immediately
> think of is:
> a) different file systems and binaries
> b) different kernals in memory.
> There is not too much that can be done about a. Limited file sharing
> and FAT table reading is possible across OS's, I realize.
> But I wonder if
> some kind of flash ROM could be included in a PC that contained
> all the things that had to be in RAM for an OS shell to talk to
> the PCs devices? If so, could not one simply exchange OS's by
> clearing one OS from ram and doing the equivalent of a reboot from
> disk, by reading in another OS from ROM to active RAM? This might
> greatly decrease the time needed to go to another OS - perhaps making
> it practical to run over to Linux and use netscape for the horrible
> website, and then come back to dos for text-based tasks.
I tried to use two separate HD's, one for each OS but failed.
The change to another OS involves discarding the 'wrong' OS from memory
and installing the 'right' one.
Not only rebooting is time consuming but also closing the win-OS
properly.
It seems to me that it must be possible to make a file (or something
like it) in which all the things are stored that the wanted OS uses and
load this quickly in RAM.
At the very start of the booting 1 question should be asked: what OS?
After your choice the real booting should be quickly done by installing
the rest from the OS system file.
This can be done by using two floppies in the A-drive... pitty loading
from floppy is very slow.
Greetings, Bastiaan
> Reactions, thoughts, complaints?
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> Howard Schwartz
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