On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Menedetter) writes:
(previous subject: Iraq vs. N Korea)

> 
> People have found millions of proofs for evolution.
> (dinosaurs which are more than a million years old [measured with 
> C14], embrios
> which have a tale in the early development, .....................)

Hi Ricsi,

Actually, Carbon 14 results have an 'error swing'. This has been
discovered by comparing dendochronology (tree ring dating) with C14
dating. Starting from the modern era and working backward, the error is
slightly off -showing earlier or later than actual dates (but I can't
remember at the moment on which side the error starts) - then coming back
to coincidence with dendochronology, then swinging the other way.

The error starts slightly (with an error of a few years), but grows
larger with each swing. We don't know why and our best 'actual dating'
only goes back 6000 or 7000 years. Unfortunately, we don't have tree ring
samples to build a historical file that could be compared to your
million-year-old dinosaurs (the generally accepted age is actually 65
million years ago), so there is no way to establish what the C14 error
might be that far back in history. 

As for Arachne ...

This would an excellent way to use Arachne for a positive, community
benefit. Even a young student could assemble a collection of text,
photos, and graphics (or, theoretically, even sound waves) to be used to
make their case for what they believed. This would be much more
scientific than even the best *I believe* argument, counter arguments
would (by default) also need to be more factually based, and outside
observers to the dialog would have the benefit of the evidence and
references presented. 

Of course, the best forum for that would probably be a separate web site
set up specifically for that dialog. I'm not proposing that we start that
thread on this list. I was only trying to present some positive uses for
Arachne in the public arena.

Warm regards from the southwest USA,

Bob Dohse


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