Um, perhaps you missed the basic point, but I *do* like that you middle
quoted !! (Or perhaps you got my basic point and I missed that !)

The basic point is NOT that people do stupid things, intentionally or
unintentionally, but rather that dictating a single way of doing things
that REQUIRES that the cutter *ALWAYS FULLY* understand the original
content and its' implications is arrogant in the extreme and bad results
are more likely that with not cutting anything.

And I am also confident readers of my top-posting will see the value in
this method on this occasion.

Then again maybe not. (Pun intentional...grin)

Very best regards;

Bob Finch


> On 6/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Quoting a whole thread from the start is useless if it doesn't have
>> anything to do with the thing you're replying to. If people want to
>> read the whole thread, they can read the archives.
>> >
>>
>> Hey gang;
>>
>> Here is an example of a cut and quote. Or if you will, and OVERLY-cut
>> and quote followed by my bottom posting.
>>
>
> well then too bad - some people will just never learn (or *bother*) to
> quote properly. What can u do with them? Burn them at the stake?
>
> And can u ever stop them. The point is not the method, - but the
> method *plus person* that makes the final email output good. Of course
> when we/i recommend whatever methods of quoting here, we do so with a
> certain basic assumption that the person we're recommending it to will
> be intelligent, or honest enough, to be able to do it properly.
>
> So do stupid people/evil people misusing a good email convention to do
> things make that email convention wrong? Should we rule out that
> method then, just because these people misuse, or abuse it then? Used
> well, a good thing can be good. Used badly, any good or bad thing will
> always be bad. Case in point, the power and flexibility of Linux. So
> there. End of discussion, i hope?
>
> Going by the same reasoning, all guns are bad, all fire is bad, etc.
> etc. etc...
>
>
>> The point ? - > If bottom posting encourages cutting text to create a
>> quote, it is sometimes arrogant to be cutting anything. i.e How do you
>> know if you have cut enough? What if your interpretation of what was
>> being said is wrong, and you cut too much ?
>>
>
> well u just use ur common sense. And if anybody is motivated enough to
> want to find out about the original discussion, they can then (as has
> been mentioned) refer to the archives.
>
>
>> Further I have seen intentional cutting of text to cloud, or worse,
>> change the original meaning(s).
>>
>
> so? can u stop them anyway, if their intention is to do the same? And
> again, anybody motivated enough to dig into the matter will be able to
> check the archives.
>
>>
>> Perhaps it is best if we not try to dictate any particular method of
>> interaction.
>>
>
> this is where i learn to quote Jason Chu's signature, slightly modified
> -
>
> "If you can take it, things will just happen.  If you cannot take it,
> things will still happen."
>
> -jf
>
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