On 7/19/05, Judd Vinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The network-profiles system is woefully inefficient when it comes to
> > wireless setup.  I connect to 4 different wifi LANs with 2 different devices
> > - that would require EIGHT separate profiles!
> 
> So?  They're about 7 lines each, not including comments.  I'm not sure
> how you're measuring efficiency, but I don't think the current setup
> is going to eat up a lot of your time.
> 
> $ sed 's|eth0|eth1|g' <old_profile >new_profile
> 
> There we go.  Some more efficiency.
> 
> To be fair though, Phil.... I didn't really anticipate a lot of laptop
> users who had two wifi cards in their machines.  Your situation is
> somewhat unique, and though the current netcfg may not be ideal for
> you, I still think it handles 95% of the cases out there.
> 
> Why do you have two wifi nics?  Do you play on both A and G networks
> or something?
> 
> > I know that people always favour their own approach but I think it is worth
> > mentioning mine again.
> 
> Yea, that's the thing.  Every time I propose a new profile setup to
> someone, the inevitable answer I receive is a couple more
> implementations.  Maybe if I just add them all, we can have 19 ways of
> configuring network profiles on Arch and everyone will be happy.
> 
> Perhaps the netcfg script really isn't an ideal solution for anyone
> but me.  If so, my bad.  It works really well here though.  It's easy
> to set up and easy to use.
> 
> But if I'm the only one that likes it, then I'd be open to some
> democratic suggestions for other implementations.  I'm sure there are
> some other edge cases that netcfg does not handle cleanly.
> 
> 
> - J


Here was my response on the TUR list (which is very similar to Judd's, heh):

> The network-profiles system is woefully inefficient when it comes to
> wireless setup.  I connect to 4 different wifi LANs with 2 different devices
> - that would require EIGHT separate profiles!

Ummm... yeah, that makes sense... the only way to simplify it more
without autodetecting everything would be to allow generalizations per
device... (i.e. load_my_profile home wlan1)

4 different WLANs => 4 profiles... there's no way around that.

However, I think using 2 wifi devices throws things off... this isn't
the common case, and for the common case (1 device), it's a 1-to-1
relationship.

Why do you need 2 wireless devices anyway?

Keep in mind, this makes sense when you combine wireless and wired
devices (as it allows)... I mean, you can't say "hmmm I'd like to use
this profile, setup for wlan0, on eth0 today", so the seperation of
profile and device doesn't make sense.

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