Judd,
I wasn't using Arch 6 months ago so I'm not used to these periodic
updates but it's nice to hear what's going on on the dev side.  (I
really like this Arch community!)  I dig the idea of the dev blogs, as
it will give the users some insight as to what's going on.  (I ask and
see a lot of questions in the IRC channels where some devs aren't
always present.)

Anyway, to all the devs, keep up the good work; we really appreciate
it!  And how would I go about contributing to Arch more?  I've been
contributing packages as I can to the AUR, but are there more things I
could sink my teeth into that need attention--e.g. helping to get
ready for 0.7.1/0.8, or maybe just getting my hands dirty in Flyspray?
 ...Hmm, maybe a "Help wanted" page on the wiki/dev-blog where people
can see what needs attention?

Cheers,
Andrew

On 9/30/05, Judd Vinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I've been receiving a few constructive complaints about the apparent lack
> of progress within the official areas of Arch development.
>
> Now, we revisit this subject about once every six months, and anyone
> that relies heavily on open-source has probably been faced with similar
> frustrations, either as an open-source producer or a consumer.
>
> Let me allay any concerns -- Arch moves on, as always.  But currently we've
> been bogged down by some large package updates, so the majority of our
> efforts have been poured into the Testing repository.  Normally you'd see
> this effort appear in Current/Extra instead, where it would be
> publicly noticed.
>
> To try and keep everyone on the same page, here's a little list of the main
> projects we need to do, and a tentative ordering of them.
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 1. We have a list of 600 packages that need to be rebuilt as part of the
> gcc4/libtool-slay projects.  We have about 80% of them finished.  The
> big move may occur as soon as this Saturday.
>
> 2. We need to release soon.  There are some other improvements we really
> want to have ready for 0.8, so a new plan has been proposed.  Instead of
> releasing a 0.8 soon, we would release a 0.7.1 that has the (almost) same
> installation as 0.7, but with an updated package set.  This will give us
> time to work on the installer for 0.8.
>
> 3. Xorg modularization, by JGC.
> Xorg 7.0 is switching to autotooled libraries, splitting up each and
> every library they have. This makes parts of Xorg easier maintainable
> and makes xorg development easier for people who want to contribute.
> When you want to contribute something nowadays it's nearly impossible
> without spending two full days investigating the Imake buildsystem.
>
> 4. OpenSSL 0.9.8 is out, and we have to rebuild all packages that link to
> it.
>
> 5. QT4 needs to be packaged.  Tpowa is proposing a side-by-side approach
> with QT3 and QT4, as some apps will not build with QT4.
>
> 6. Combine kernel26 and kernel26-scsi into one initrd-driven kernel.  This
> would be really nice for everyone to have -- I'd like to have this ready
> by 0.8.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> In an attempt to keep Arch development activity more visible, we were
> thinking of setting up a development Arch blog.  This blog would be
> admin'ed by official developers, but anyone involved in Arch development
> would be able to post to it.  Basically, we want a way to aggregate all
> Arch progress in one place.
>
> The frontpage isn't the best, as that should be reserved for important
> announcements and tricky/weird package upgrades.  The dev blog would be
> updated much more frequently.  For example, a TU may post about his latest
> triumph in getting package X and Y to build with package Z, or whatever.
> Developers can post status updates about large/unruly projects like
> libtoolslay, or just one of those "i'm still alive but busy" posts that
> are so frequent (we devs are popular people in real life, dontcha know).
>
> Now, I know this is yet another web service, and it may not get used and
> it may just add yet another place to confuse the newbie.  Let me know if
> you feel this is the case.
>
> Another point to bring up is Planet Arch.  The Planet is an RSS aggregator
> for some developer blogs.  The one issue with the Planet is that it
> aggregates ALL posts from our personal blogs, not just Arch-related ones.
> A second point is that all Arch devs (official and un-) may not have
> personal blogs to use, so they will need an Arch-hosted one.
>
> As a "workaround" for people that use and like the Planet, we can feed all
> the dev blog entries directly into the Planet, so you can still read your
> juicy Arch tidbits from there, if you so desire.
>
> Please share your thoughts, and let's keep it constructive.  Constructive
> is fun!  :)
>
>
> - J
>
>
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