James Rayner wrote: > On 12/6/05, Arnaud Fortier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I agree with benoit ! >>Initscripts / php / udev / hotplug / hwdetect ... these packages SHOULD >>be tested before release in current ! And also largely commented with >>some kind of HOW-TO ! >>A good exemple is the remove of synchronisation between hal-fstab, it >>was removed, nobody tells anybody of this new "feature" and udev was not >>at this moment replacing the hal's fstab lacks !! >>And what can we think about php5.1 droped directly in current ! Ok it >>was corrected in 4 hours but what is the point of the testing repo then ... >>Also I'm having problem with udev and USB Hard drive, I reinstall arch >>from scratch, using hwdetect / udev and the hard drive doesn't mount >>"automatically" anymore ! ... >>I see the pmount trick ... and finally add a line in fstab ... >> > > > Arch is bleeding edge. See About page: http://www.archlinux.org/about.php > > Note the word bleeding.
I know *bleeding* and I *love* bleeding, but I think Benoit's point is communication. No one is complaining about staying with the times, but the *average* user will appreciate it if when a *major* change is about to be made, there is a mail with a brief explanation of what's about to come. Currently, we sort of react to it, by putting up wiki's and howto's, but not stuff like the initrd change that is coming, its going to be a big change, and everyone has been primed for it already. If stuff like that is done for *major* changes in the way we expect packages to work, I'm actualy sure we'll get more ppl testing them out to make sure they're stable as soon as possible. > > Things will break occasionally, and thats just part of the fun of > using Arch. Most major things are put in testing and are there for a > reasonable amount of time. Other things which would seem like a minor > version upgrade have also caused problems, these cant be forseen by > the devs, and its impractical to put every minor version into testing. > > You dont realise how much more trouble you would have if everything > went straight to extra/current. > > I like bleeding, and most of the time its not bad at all, a minor fix > or glance at the mailing list, homepage or wiki to fix it. So again, the point is not *anti-bleeding-edgeism(tm)* ;), but rather communication. > > iphitus > > > > -- > iphitus - archck maintainer, arch trusted user. > Home:iphitus.loudas.com > > _______________________________________________ > arch mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch _______________________________________________ arch mailing list [email protected] http://www.archlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/arch
