On Wed, March 15, 2006 3:03 pm, Matthew G wrote:
> I'm totally against this. I think this is a really shitty idea. I
> never liked vbulltin and I will never like it. If we really wanted to
> share logins people would modify the source and do so. flyspry is
> great, the wiki is great, and phpbb is great. Leave it as it is!

Wow.

What we really need is some better parenting from Matthew's parents.
Respect and manners go a long way in this world. Your post is rude (no to
mention you top posted).

> On 3/14/06, pbw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I forgot to mention there's also a pretty decent integrated bug tracker
>> system. An example -
>> http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/bugs35.php .And an easy to manage
>> newsletter
>> system as well.
>>
>> On Tuesday 14 March 2006 03:35, pbw wrote:
>> > Hey everyone, lately i've been doing some thinking on how to improve
>> the
>> > website and integrating things as easily and best as possible. Before
>> the
>> > flames on this being commercial software begin, just hear me out.
>> >
>> > With minimal - no effort and hacking of the source code we can have
>> these
>> > features:
>> >
>> > - Single login/registration for everything below
>> > - Announcements on front page piping automatically piping discussion
>> to
>> > it's own thread in specified forum
>> > - Blogs
>> > - Gallery
>> > - shared login with mediawiki
>> > - An improved AUR system, with an accurate way to gauge package useage
>> > (which i'll describe and show below)
>> > - Shop
>> > - Donations system which displays in real time and adds user to a
>> thank you
>> > page (unless they choose to be anonymous)
>> > - Forum system lightyears better than phpbb (current info and userbase
>> > simple to import)
>> > - Very powerful (and easy) administration/privelage system
>> > - RSS Feeds on every Area you choose to have them for
>> > - even our user map can be integrated with no effort
>> > - mailing list threads piped to specified forum and vise versa
>> >
>> > What i'm proposing is vBulletin. An owned license (one time lifetime
>> fee)
>> > is only 160$, and i feel with the extra donations this is well worth
>> it, in
>> > pretty much every way i can think of.
>> >
>> > AUR system:
>> >
>> > It probably will be easiest to show by example, so here it is -
>> > http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=108515 . The
>> best
>> > feature this offers us (along of course with being centralized), is
>> the way
>> > the voting would work. Right now, i know i'm guilty, but i just get
>> too
>> > lazy and forget to always click to vote on a package i use. And also
>> alot
>> > of the time i stop using said package.
>> >
>> > With this system, you click install, when you have installed a
>> package, the
>> > contributor can see exactly who installed and who hasnt (Which is good
>> as a
>> > way to nudge people who post for support, yet havent clicked
>> > install/voted). People will be much more likely to vote/click install
>> a
>> > package here, since doing so will enable them to be notified via email
>> > every time the package is updated. and when they uninstall and no
>> longer
>> > wish to be notified of updates, they just click uninstall.
>> >
>> > I know currently we have the rss feed for the aur which does similar,
>> but
>> > afaik it only shows new packages and not updated ones?. Which can be a
>> pain
>> > to always check to stay up to date.
>> >
>> > Anyways, give it some thought. I've been using and hacking up vB for
>> quite
>> > some time, so if you guys have any questions on other areas, just ask.
>> I'll
>> > post this on the forum as well. Don't take this as a flame on the
>> current
>> > website efforts. I just feel this would make things easier to manage
>> and
>> > stay organized, and better for the end user for the same reason.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for making it through my novel,
>> >
>> > -- Chris O'Reilly

As to the idea of consolidating apps into one. I'm not fond of this idea
for the simple fact that if the main application breaks, it could
potentially take down the entire system. Having separate apps for wiki,
forum, bugs, et al just seems more reliable. Furthermore, I think that the
user experience wouldn't benefit from such a system. People have grown
accustomed to the way these specific apps work (Forums, WIKI, bug
trackers). Putting them together in an app that was initially built for
forums might confuse the user and then your site becomes a pain to
navigate and use. Not because it's designed badly, but because of the
expectations of the user. I know there's no standard on how a WIKI should
act, but of the several popular ones out there today, they all
look/feel/act similar enough to be intuitive to a user who has used one
before.

I do like the idea of single logins, but I've already got a gazillion
login/passwds... what's a few more? It's an exercise in memory retention.

Just my 2 cents...
r.



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