Phil, 
thanks for suggestions on multilinglual fields. I'll add them as you 
suggested. I have also modified views logic for report that it shows 
correct label for selected language. You were right, it was really easy, I 
just thought that Arches do that already.

Aleksei, when do you plan to release a patch for dropdowns in other 
languages (now it shows some labels in English, some in other languages)?

For bulk loading multilingual concepts I ended up using .values file with 
my custom ValueType, which contain also a language code (eg. label:de) and 
then I modified function load_authority_file (in authority_files.py) to 
redirect this kind of ValueType to additional labels (in appropriate 
language). This solution fits best for my case as I will be preparing 
authority files with a script from another database.

Best, 

Bojan

On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:19:03 PM UTC+1, Carlisle, Philip wrote:
>
> Hi Bojan,
>
>  
>
> As E56 Language is a subclass of type you can add another triple to your 
> graph for NAME.E41-P2 has type – Language.E56
>
>  
>
> Description would be E62-P2-E56
>
>  
>
> For Title this would be Title.E35 - P72 has language (is language of) 
> Language.E56
>
>  
>
> It’s slightly different for Title.E35 because unlike name (which is only a 
> child of E90 Symbolic Object) Title.E35 is also a child of E33 Linguistic 
> Object and can therefore use the P72 has language (is language of) property 
> inherited from E33.
>
>  
>
> As to the language aspect in the RDM. As you can have a preferred term in 
> each language it should be simple enough to programme it so that when you 
> switch the language of the interface the preferred terms for that language 
> take precedence in the authority file/look-up.
>
>  
>
> I say it should be simple. I’m not a programmer, I just build thesauri ;-)
>
>  
>
> Phil
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *Phil Carlisle*
>
> Data Standards Supervisor
>
> Data Standards Unit, Listing Group
>
> Historic England
>
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>
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>
> http://thesaurus.historicengland.org.uk/ 
>
> http://www.heritagedata.org/blog/
>
>  
>
> *From:* [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto:
> [email protected] <javascript:>] *On Behalf Of *Adam Lodge
> *Sent:* 01 December 2015 00:18
> *To:* Bojan Kastelic
> *Cc:* Arches Project
> *Subject:* Re: [Arches] Need help with concepts localization
>
>  
>
> There is nothing inbuilt to Arches to support that.  As far as Arches is 
> concerned, the NAME entity type in and of itself is language-agnostic.
>
>  
>
> However, you might be able to craft a creative solution to meet your need 
> using NAME_TYPE.E55.  You could, in theory, add languages to the 
> NAME_TYPE.E55 dropdown. 
>
>  
>
> I’ll be interested to know what you come up with.
>
>  
>
> Adam
>
>  
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Bojan Kastelic wrote:
>
> Adam, thanks for your efforts. I think there may be a way to achieve this 
> with export/import schema in RDM, but I haven't tried this aproach yet.
>
> I have one more question regarding this: is there a way to translate field 
> names in search dropdown which doesn't have authority documents (for 
> example: Name.E41, Title.E41, Description.E62, ...)?
>
> Thanks, Bojan
>
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 12:45:26 AM UTC+1, Adam Lodge wrote:
>
> Bojan,
>
>  
>
> It is true that there is no way way to distinguish the language of one 
> label versus another within the same authority document.  The authority 
> document csv format was designed to sacrifice flexibility for ease of use. 
>  I’ll put some thought on how to approach the problem of bulk loading many 
> concepts in differing languages.
>
>  
>
> Adam
>
>  
>
> -- 
>
> Adam Lodge
>
> Geospatial Systems Consultant
>
> Farallon Geographics
>
> 415.317.6625
>
>  
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Bojan Kastelic wrote:
>
> Adam, thanks for quick reply.
>
> Your solution works great when I have only one language, but my project 
> have three languages! I've already implemented changing UI language from 
> dropdown menu 'Languages' and that works great, but I want to change 
> concepts labels in dropdown lists and report also. 
>
> I'll wait for Aleksei if he has some further advice about that.
>
> I've also checked the code for importing concepts from authority files 
> (authority_files.py) and I am afraid that all labels imports only for one 
> language (settings.LANGUAGE_CODE). I hope there is another way to import 
> concept labels in multiple languages.
>
> Best, Bojan
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 11:05:28 PM UTC+1, Adam Lodge wrote:
>
> Hi Bojan, 
>
>  
>
> The key here is going to be getting your new language added to the 
> d_languages table, and setting the “isdefulat” value to true, and setting 
> the existing en-us language set to false.  That way, Arches has a way to 
> know that it should display labels from your language rather than english.
>
>  
>
> I understand from Alexei, however, that there may be a a bug in properly 
> retrieving concepts for dropdowns in languages other than English. He has 
> built a fix, but hasn’t tested it thoroughly enough to commit to the repo. 
>  He will likely chime in with some further words to give you a path forward 
> on that.
>
>  
>
> As far as importing authority documents in other languages - the key 
> remains the same.  Arches assumes that your authority documents are in 
> whatever you have deemed to be the default language.  Therefore, you want 
> to make sure that your language is added to the d_languages table and it is 
> set as the only default language before you import your auth docs.  The way 
> I would do that is by modifying the db_data.sql file that runs on Arches 
> install.  Look at line 24 which is the one that populates english as the 
> default language.  I would modify that statement with the following:
>
>  
>
> INSERT INTO d_languages VALUES (’[YL-01]', ‘[YOUR_LANGUAGE]', true);
>
> INSERT INTO d_languages VALUES ('en-US', 'ENGLISH', false);
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Adam
>
>  
>
> -- 
>
> Adam Lodge
>
> Geospatial Systems Consultant
>
> Farallon Geographics
>
> 415.317.6625
>
>  
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Bojan Kastelic wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm working on localization of my Arches project and so far I have 
> successfully implemented UI translations, but I have problems with concepts 
> translations (for dropdown lists). As I understand, each concept can have 
> multiple labels in different languages. I manually entered additional 
> (translated) labels in RDM, but when I change the language, only static 
> (UI) text changes, whereas the concept labels (in dropdown lists and 
> report) stay the same (the last label for each concept).
>
> What am I doing wrong? Is this approach (using labels for translations) 
> right? Do all labels have to be marked as preferred (prefLabel)? What am I 
> missing? 
>
> And if I can get this work, how can I import labels for different 
> languages through Authority Files (there is no language field)?  
>
> Regards, Bojan
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