Dear Adam, Thank you so much for your very elaborate response. I had an opportunity to talk to Joel Aldor as well who has worked on the Philippines Heritage Project. What we are attempting to do is fairly similar to what has been done there and we would in all likelihood end up using the Arches-hip.
I am really glad to connect with you, while it is very early days for us as we are still in the process of identifying the heritage sites that need to become part of the first phase of the project. India as you know has very rich cultural history and there are a very large number of candidates that would be credible enough to make the cut for the 1st phase and we are in the midst of setting criteria for candidacy. The intent is clearly to narrow the list down to 500 odd sites to start with. I do intend to document my learnings as we progress. I must admit that you and rest of the Arches community has done a wonderful job in creating this body of knowledge and I intend to leverage on your collective experiences and possibly contribute a thing or two from my own experiments. Thank you once again. I will keep you posted on how things progress. Regards, Atul Mathur > On 03-Mar-2016, at 6:35 AM, Adam Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Atul, > > I know it can be tricky to work with all of the dependencies, so I'm very > glad to hear that you have waded through all the steps! You may find that to > be the most difficult issue overall. > > One document that I assume you have seen (but I'll mention it just for good > measure) is the Implementations Considerations > <http://archesproject.org/implementation-considerations/> that I put together > a little while ago. It doesn't directly address all of the questions you > asked, but if you haven't seen it yet I'm sure it would be a helpful start. > > As for your specific questions... > > a) For my own work, I've followed these steps: > > 1) test install on final OS system environment (already done for you!) > 2) do the basic settings/map configuration > 3) inspect and compare existing data to the resource graphs and update > authority documents > 4) change graphs, forms, reports if necessary > 5) create .arches file from existing data > 6) final install/create database users through admin interface > > b) Certain steps take longer than others, of course, and some may take much > longer depending on your needs. > > 1) ultimately, if you have done this once, you should know how to reproduce > your results on a brand new machine. Maybe 1/2 hr? > 2) technically, this could take only a few hours, but if you need to > make/edit a logo image, edit the slideshow images, convert the coordinates, > and definitely learn things along the way... at least a day or so. > 3) it's really good to spend a lot of time on this, but it's up to you. If > you only have a basic dataset to begin with, then it should be very easy to > envision how it will fit into the default arches-hip resource graphs. You'll > definitely need to update the authority documents with your own terminology > though, so I'd recommend a good deal of research into that. > 4) This is a tricky one, because if the default resource graphs work for you, > then you shouldn't have to do anything. The Philippine Heritage Map is based > entirely on the default arches-hip, and that has worked well for them so far. > However, if you need to make changes to these graphs, you'll have to modify > the forms and the reports as well to support the changes. That could take > many days, depending on you level of expertise. An important note here is > that version 4 of Arches will allow you to create forms and graphs in a vary > simple manner, but looks like that isn't slated for release until the end of > the summer. > 5) This depends entirely on your data and expertise. If you have a single > excel file, you should be able to make a SQL query to convert it all at once. > If you have a lot of different data sources, this can get very complicated. > So I'd say at least a day. > 6) By referencing your your authority files, resource graphs, and .arches > file in settings.py, you can make every package installation an exact replica > of the last. So the final thing you do when you have everything installed > would be to make the database users in the admin panel. > > c) Well, I recommend that you record all of your steps, for one. Also, I > have also benefited greatly from using GItHub to host my projects. I have a > local clone of the repo which I install on my laptop, and another on an > amazon server which holds the official progress. I do testing on my local > version, and once I'm done I push it to GitHub, and then pull to my AWS > instance. It's a very quick way to publish work in progress. Furthermore, > it would only take a minute to clone the repo and install it on any machine > that already has Arches and arches-hip installed. Everything in the name of > quick replication. > > d) As mentioned above, you should convert all of your initial data to a > .arches file. You can find good documentation about that here on the forum, > and in the official Arches/ArchesHip documentation. The .arches file can > serve as a default upload of all your initial data. > > Hope all of that helps! The projects I've done have had a considerable > amount of customizations added, so it's hard for me to make good time > estimates for what a very basic installation would require. It would be very > good to hear from others on the forum about how long some of these steps have > taken them. > > Adam > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Atul Mathur <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I am a newbie to Arches. Recently I was asked by a dear friend of mine if I > could help her with an initiative that really resonated with me. She is > working on trying to put together a Geo-spatial inventory for Heritage sites > in a region in India. She works with several conservation initiatives within > the region. She mentioned Arches to me and I managed to install Arches > Framework with some amount of difficulty on a Ubuntu environment on my Mac. > It almost took me a week to get it up and running primarily because of my > unfamiliarity with the Open source world and the whole lot of dependencies > that are there between various packages that Arches uses. Anyhow, the good > news is that I have been able to get Arches installed. > > Just to set the context of what she wants done is ... There are close to 500 > heritage sites within the Region she is targeting. She has a lot of pictures, > lots of documentation detailing the sites that includes a historical, > geographical, cultural perspective and all of that is in Word document > format. > > As I read through the material on the ArchesProject website, i could not help > but admire the wonderful work that may have gone in creating this framework. > However, my lack of familiarity with the whole Heritage management piece is > somewhat like a barrier considering that I am more of IT person. > > The reason i am writing here on this forum is to solicit help from some of > you practitioners to guide me on the following: > > a) What are the various steps that are involved in taking up a project of > this kind > b) Typically how much time does each step take > c) Are there any recommended approaches that one can take with respect to > Requirement speccing, Design, Development, Testing and Deployment phases of > the project > d) What are the approaches to data uploads one can take, i understand from > the documentation that bulk uploads are possible but i am not quite sure how > > If any of you have put together a BoK of sorts that you can share, that would > be really awesome. > > Looking forward to hearing from you. > > Regards, > > Atul Mathur > > -- > -- To post, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. 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