Hi Atul, I'm very happy to hear that you've been able to get in touch with Joel, he should be a great resource for you.
Looking forward to hearing your progress, and I also hope to be able to add more guidance on certain tasks in the future. The more input the better! Good luck, Adam On Wednesday, March 2, 2016 at 9:21:09 PM UTC-6, Atul Mathur wrote: > > Dear Adam, > > Thank you so much for your very elaborate response. I had an opportunity > to talk to Joel Aldor as well who has worked on the Philippines Heritage > Project. What we are attempting to do is fairly similar to what has been > done there and we would in all likelihood end up using the Arches-hip. > > I am really glad to connect with you, while it is very early days for us > as we are still in the process of identifying the heritage sites that need > to become part of the first phase of the project. India as you know has > very rich cultural history and there are a very large number of candidates > that would be credible enough to make the cut for the 1st phase and we are > in the midst of setting criteria for candidacy. The intent is clearly to > narrow the list down to 500 odd sites to start with. > > I do intend to document my learnings as we progress. I must admit that you > and rest of the Arches community has done a wonderful job in creating this > body of knowledge and I intend to leverage on your collective experiences > and possibly contribute a thing or two from my own experiments. > > Thank you once again. I will keep you posted on how things progress. > > Regards, > > Atul Mathur > > On 03-Mar-2016, at 6:35 AM, Adam Cox <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Atul, > > I know it can be tricky to work with all of the dependencies, so I'm very > glad to hear that you have waded through all the steps! You may find that > to be the most difficult issue overall. > > One document that I assume you have seen (but I'll mention it just for > good measure) is the Implementations Considerations > <http://archesproject.org/implementation-considerations/> that I put > together a little while ago. It doesn't directly address all of the > questions you asked, but if you haven't seen it yet I'm sure it would be a > helpful start. > > As for your specific questions... > > a) For my own work, I've followed these steps: > > 1) test install on final OS system environment (already done for you!) > 2) do the basic settings/map configuration > 3) inspect and compare existing data to the resource graphs and update > authority documents > 4) change graphs, forms, reports if necessary > 5) create .arches file from existing data > 6) final install/create database users through admin interface > > b) Certain steps take longer than others, of course, and some may take *much > *longer depending on your needs. > > 1) ultimately, if you have done this once, you should know how to > reproduce your results on a brand new machine. Maybe 1/2 hr? > 2) technically, this could take only a few hours, but if you need to > make/edit a logo image, edit the slideshow images, convert the coordinates, > and definitely learn things along the way... at least a day or so. > 3) it's really good to spend a lot of time on this, but it's up to you. > If you only have a basic dataset to begin with, then it should be very easy > to envision how it will fit into the default arches-hip resource graphs. > You'll definitely need to update the authority documents with your own > terminology though, so I'd recommend a good deal of research into that. > 4) This is a tricky one, because if the default resource graphs work for > you, then you shouldn't have to do anything. The Philippine Heritage Map > is based entirely on the default arches-hip, and that has worked well for > them so far. However, if you need to make changes to these graphs, you'll > have to modify the forms and the reports as well to support the changes. > That could take many days, depending on you level of expertise. An > important note here is that version 4 of Arches will allow you to create > forms and graphs in a vary simple manner, but looks like that isn't slated > for release until the end of the summer. > 5) This depends entirely on your data and expertise. If you have a single > excel file, you should be able to make a SQL query to convert it all at > once. If you have a lot of different data sources, this can get very > complicated. So I'd say at least a day. > 6) By referencing your your authority files, resource graphs, and .arches > file in settings.py, you can make every package installation an exact > replica of the last. So the final thing you do when you have everything > installed would be to make the database users in the admin panel. > > c) Well, I recommend that you record all of your steps, for one. Also, I > have also benefited greatly from using GItHub to host my projects. I have > a local clone of the repo which I install on my laptop, and another on an > amazon server which holds the official progress. I do testing on my local > version, and once I'm done I push it to GitHub, and then pull to my AWS > instance. It's a very quick way to publish work in progress. Furthermore, > it would only take a minute to clone the repo and install it on any machine > that already has Arches and arches-hip installed. Everything in the name > of quick replication. > > d) As mentioned above, you should convert all of your initial data to a > .arches file. You can find good documentation about that here on the > forum, and in the official Arches/ArchesHip documentation. The .arches > file can serve as a default upload of all your initial data. > > Hope all of that helps! The projects I've done have had a considerable > amount of customizations added, so it's hard for me to make good time > estimates for what a very basic installation would require. It would be > very good to hear from others on the forum about how long some of these > steps have taken them. > > Adam > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Atul Mathur <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I am a newbie to Arches. Recently I was asked by a dear friend of mine if >> I could help her with an initiative that really resonated with me. She is >> working on trying to put together a Geo-spatial inventory for Heritage >> sites in a region in India. She works with several conservation initiatives >> within the region. She mentioned Arches to me and I managed to install >> Arches Framework with some amount of difficulty on a Ubuntu environment on >> my Mac. It almost took me a week to get it up and running primarily because >> of my unfamiliarity with the Open source world and the whole lot of >> dependencies that are there between various packages that Arches uses. >> Anyhow, the good news is that I have been able to get Arches installed. >> >> Just to set the context of what she wants done is ... There are close to >> 500 heritage sites within the Region she is targeting. She has a lot of >> pictures, lots of documentation detailing the sites that includes a >> historical, geographical, cultural perspective and all of that is in Word >> document format. >> >> As I read through the material on the ArchesProject website, i could not >> help but admire the wonderful work that may have gone in creating this >> framework. However, my lack of familiarity with the whole Heritage >> management piece is somewhat like a barrier considering that I am more of >> IT person. >> >> The reason i am writing here on this forum is to solicit help from some >> of you practitioners to guide me on the following: >> >> a) What are the various steps that are involved in taking up a project of >> this kind >> b) Typically how much time does each step take >> c) Are there any recommended approaches that one can take with respect to >> Requirement speccing, Design, Development, Testing and Deployment phases of >> the project >> d) What are the approaches to data uploads one can take, i understand >> from the documentation that bulk uploads are possible but i am not quite >> sure how >> >> If any of you have put together a BoK of sorts that you can share, that >> would be really awesome. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Atul Mathur >> >> -- >> -- To post, send email to [email protected]. 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