Hi Joel, instead of changing the v4 graphs to match the v3 ones, you should
convert your data into an upload file that will match v4 graph nodes.

I have created some thorough documentation on how to make an upload file
for v4:
https://arches4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/import-export/#uploading-a-csv-to-arches

Hope that helps. Hopefully others will have more info on what has changed
between the v3 and v4 graphs which should help in your conversion process.

Adam

On May 3, 2017 12:13 AM, "Joel Aldor" <joel.al...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Annabel and Vincent for your replies. So if I understand this
> correctly, the v4 resource models have changes from v3 graphs, but I can
> revert them back to the default v3 HIP graphs using the Arches Designer,
> right? We have used only the default v3 HIP graphs and we tried not to
> change them for the meantime, because to be honest, understanding those
> graphs are quite a challenge. We would be in a better position to
> re-evaluate and customize our graphs once we have successfully migrated
> everything to v4, including all business data and images/files.
>
> I've already imported the v4 resource models on my dev Arches 4
> installation. Would you be able to point out to me what were the changes of
> the resource models on version 4? And how do I make the change on Graph
> Designer? I looked into Version 3 Appendix for the list of resource graphs
> and nodes as my reference: http://arches-hip.readthedocs.
> io/en/latest/appendix/
>
> Your help is very much appreciated. Thanks!
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:14:47 AM UTC+8, Annabel Lee Enriquez wrote:
>>
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> To add to both Vincent's and Dennis' posts, I wanted to let you know that
>> the v4 resource models (formerly known as graphs) that are currently
>> available (via the link that Vincent provided) are not exact copies of the
>> v3 graphs because we tried to improve on both the organization and
>> semantics based on our experiences thus far. Having said that, the new v4
>> graphs should accommodate the same data that the v3 graphs did. I will say
>> that the Arches Designer makes it relatively easy to reevaluate your needs
>> and make changes to the resource models before you load your data, but as
>> Dennis noted, it will enforce semantic rules based on the CIDOC CRM, so do
>> post any CRM related questions you might have as you go through this
>> process.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Annabel
>>
>>
>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 8:04:05 AM UTC-7, Vincent Meijer wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Joel,
>>>
>>> The graphs that come default with v4 are here: https://github.com/arche
>>> sproject/arches/tree/master/arches/db/graphs/resource_models
>>>
>>> Is that what you were looking for?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 30 April 2017 04:06:35 UTC-4, Joel Aldor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dennis,
>>>>
>>>> I'm done with Step 1 of the migration. For Step 2, we wish to retain
>>>> first the default HIP graphs we had for version 3, before we make any
>>>> changes to our data models using the Arches Designer. Could you provide us
>>>> the updated graphs for version 4?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Joel
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 3:20:47 AM UTC+8, Dennis Wuthrich wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Migrating from v3 to v4
>>>>>
>>>>> We've heard from a few people, asking about migrating from Arches v3
>>>>> to v4.  To help you understand the basic approach, we've outlined the
>>>>> workflow as a series of steps:
>>>>>
>>>>> Step 1. Export your RDM/Reference data from v3
>>>>> Step 2. Create graphs in v4
>>>>> Step 3. Migrate business data from v3 to v4
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the devil is in the details!
>>>>>
>>>>> *Step 1: Export RDM data from v3.*
>>>>> We're working on a patch that will allow you to use the RDM SKOS
>>>>> exporter (Tools -> Export Scheme) to export your existing RDM from v3 into
>>>>> a format that v4 can read.  Once you've exported your existing concepts,
>>>>> use the v4 RDM to import them.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've introduced a new feature in v4 called "collections" that allow
>>>>> you to manage dropdowns in data entry forms in a manner that adhers to the
>>>>> skos standard.  You'll need to use the RDM to create collections for your
>>>>> dropdowns.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Step 2: Create graphs in v4*
>>>>> In v4, Arches provides a way to create and validate graphs
>>>>> interactively.  The "Arches Designer" in v4 offers visual graph creation
>>>>> tools that you'll need to use to create graphs.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're using the default HIP graphs in v3, this step is pretty easy
>>>>> as we'll provide updated versions for v4.  If you've created your own
>>>>> graphs (or modified the existing v3 HIP graphs), you'll need to use the
>>>>> Arches Desiger to create your graphs in v4.
>>>>>
>>>>> In either case, migrating from v3 to v4 is a chance for you to
>>>>> re-evaluate your data models and implement improvements based on your
>>>>> experience with v3.  You'll find that v4 comes with a library of re-usable
>>>>> "branches" (or sub-graphs) that make designer a graph much easier than for
>>>>> v3.
>>>>>
>>>>> One last note: v4 validates graphs to ensure that they are consistent
>>>>> with the CIDOC CRM classes and properties.  This means that graphs in v4
>>>>> need to be semantically valid (NOT a requirement of v3).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Step 3: Migrate business data from v3 to v4*
>>>>> After configuring the RDM and defining graphs in v4, you're ready to
>>>>> import your v3 data.
>>>>>
>>>>> To start, export data from your v3 instance of Arches.  V3 comes with
>>>>> a command that will export your business data to JSON.  You'll need to use
>>>>> a JSON to csv converter (or write a script to do it), then use v4's CSV
>>>>> import tools to pull your data into Arches.  V4 comes with mapping tools
>>>>> that allow you to map information in a CSV file to specific nodes in a
>>>>> resource model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, there are always lots of details when working with a
>>>>> specific dataset.  But the basic process can be broken down to the 3 steps
>>>>> outlined.
>>>>>
>>>>> We at Farallon will be supporting v3 to v4 migrations, but there's no
>>>>> reason you can't do it yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>
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