Ok, to clarify though, for 4.1 you *will* need bower, but *won't *need yarn
nor shapely.

I'll be going through the old forum posts to try and update all doc-related
links if necessary. Thanks!

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:45 AM, Anne Millington <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Also, Adam, I found my Version 3
> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/wiki/Installing-Dependencies-on-Windows#shapely>
>  link
> on this forum, I am pretty sure, in looking for help with installation.
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 9:30 AM, Anne Millington <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you!  I do have yarn installed, and do not have bower or shapely,
>> so somehow I stumbled onto the right path.  I am uninstalling Python 3.6.4
>> as we speak, and will go from there.
>>
>> Your clarification is extremely helpful, and I am so happy to get this
>> support!
>>
>> Onward!
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Adam Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Anne, thanks for posting! As Jeff says, the short answer to your
>>> specific issues is that you do need to use Python 2.7.x. Arches is not
>>> compatible with Python 3, and the error you encountered is a direct
>>> reflection of that.
>>>
>>> As for the documentation, I appreciate the opportunity to clarify this,
>>> especially because we have had to shuffle the documentation around a bit
>>> over the last couple of releases, but things are very much settled down now.
>>>
>>> Your Version 1 <http://arches4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/overview/> is
>>> actually the "latest" documentation (note the full URL), which is
>>> up-to-date with the in-development code in the arches main repo. Version
>>> 2
>>> <https://arches.readthedocs.io/en/stable/requirements-and-dependencies/> is
>>> the "stable" version of the documentation, which is the latest stable
>>> release (4.1.0) and the one that you should use. However, and this is
>>> important, *please use arches.readthedocs.io
>>> <http://arches.readthedocs.io>, instead of arches4.readthedoc.io
>>> <http://arches4.readthedoc.io>*. The content is actually exactly the
>>> same at those domains, but we'd like to begin referring to only the
>>> arches.readthedocs.io url. Version 3
>>> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/wiki/Installing-Dependencies-on-Windows#shapely>
>>>  really
>>> is a remnant of the past; I removed it from the side-bar index of the wiki,
>>> but I didn't delete the page itself. I have found a link to it here
>>> http://arches.readthedocs.io/en/4.0.1/installation/#dependencies (which
>>> I'll fix presently) but is there somewhere else that you came across a link
>>> to it? I'd like to correct any old references (which includes editing old
>>> forum posts).
>>>
>>> A quick explanation of the differences in documentation that you
>>> noticed: Bower is used in the stable release of Arches (4.1), but has since
>>> been replaced by Yarn, which is why you see Yarn documented in the "latest"
>>> version and Bower in the "stable" version. The need for Shapely was removed
>>> from Arches just before the 4.1 release, which is why that is not mentioned
>>> in the "stable" version, but it is in the wiki page that is linked in the
>>> 4.0.1 documentation.
>>>
>>> Final note: when viewing arches.readthedocs.io, you can easily switch
>>> between documentation for different Arches releases (going back to version
>>> 2.1) in the bottom left-hand corner of the page. Stable will always be the
>>> same as the most recent release (4.1.0 right now).
>>>
>>>
>>> Again, thanks for asking for clarification, and I'll be posting soon
>>> with an update to the post that is currently pinned to the forum to explain
>>> documentation: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic
>>> /archesproject/UYdiTtejKfY
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 6:09 PM, Anne Millington <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am new to Arches and to the group, and have been trying bravely to
>>>> use the provided documentation to answer questions, but I have hit a bit of
>>>> a snag.
>>>>
>>>> I am attempting to install in a Windows Server 2012 environment.  I
>>>> used these instructions which I will call Version 1
>>>> <http://arches4.readthedocs.io/en/latest/overview/>, and with some
>>>> finagling successfully negotiated all the steps till I got to the actual
>>>> installation of Arches.  I finally install Python 3.6.4, because I was
>>>> having trouble installing pip.  All went well from there, and I have my
>>>> virtual environment ready for Arches.  Upon issuing the command, I got this
>>>> error:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eDsLXWbgZkg/Wqr6GFXpQZI/AAAAAAAAGyM/27zbgof71GITv0WtiLUu1V2EjhpPkOBOACLcBGAs/s1600/Capture.PNG>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In researching the problem, I find there are at least three versions of
>>>> the installation documentation, with some differences that might be
>>>> relevant.  Version 2
>>>> <https://arches.readthedocs.io/en/stable/requirements-and-dependencies/> 
>>>> requires
>>>> bower, and Version 3
>>>> <https://github.com/archesproject/arches/wiki/Installing-Dependencies-on-Windows#shapely>
>>>>  references
>>>> git and shapely.  The Version 1 set of instructions I was using mention
>>>> none of those.  Could something like this be the source of my error?
>>>>
>>>> I am thinking I should backtrack and follow Version 3 to have the most
>>>> current docs to guide my install.  Further, I wonder if I should try again
>>>> to install pip using Python 2.7.x, as that is your recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> Any assistance highly appreciated!
>>>>
>>>> <https://arches.readthedocs.io/en/stable/requirements-and-dependencies/>
>>>>
>>>>
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