Hey Pat, just out of curiosity, are you using Ubuntu Desktop? I have only 
used the server distro for Ubuntu 18 which may be why I never encountered 
the terminal issue.

Your solution is the right one though: typically you can install a new 
version of python alongside whatever comes with the OS and then just use 
that version when you make the virtual environment (as you did).

Glad you've been making your way through the install process.

Cheers,
Adam

On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 4:21:24 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
wrote:

> Hi Alina,
>
> Thanks for the reply. I rather hope that having it in a virtual machine is 
> irrelevant - it shouldn't know that it is in a VM!
> I still get that pile of messages starting with the lack of a vine.five 
> package.
>
> I distracted myself for a couple of days trying to upgrade Python 3.6.9 
> that comes with Ubuntu 18.04 to Python 3.7. That stopped the terminal 
> program from starting as it needs that specific version. While I could 
> install a different terminal I am concerned that other bits of Ubuntu could 
> be broken too.  In the end I don't think that matters as the virtual 
> environment gets Python 3.7 in it as long as I set it up with:
>
> $ sudo apt install python3.7
> $ sudo apt install python3.7-venv
> $ python3.7 -m venv ~Projects/ENV
>
> Best wishes, have a good weekend,
> Pat
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 12:59:21 AM UTC+1 Alina Myklebust wrote:
>
>> Hi Pat, 
>>
>> Nice to hear that there’s been some progress with your install.  I will 
>> ask around to see if I can find someone with experience installing Arches 
>> on a Vbox Virtual machine.  So far, I’m not aware of anyone, but I hope to 
>> find some support for you. Keep us posted on your progress. Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alina 
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on 
>> behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 11:29:13 AM
>> *To:* Arches Project <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [Arches] Re: Installing Arches 5 on my laptop - problems 
>>  
>> A little progress.
>>
>> The failure to build wheels has been cured by invoking:
>>
>> $ pip install wheel
>>
>> before
>>
>> $pip install arches
>>
>> arches now installs OK. 
>> Pat
>>
>> On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 2:50:42 PM UTC+1 [email protected] 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> This really is not a DOS attack.
>>
>> I have installed the dependencies as per the script from github, and am 
>> now trying to install Arches itself by following the documentation for V5.0.
>>
>> $ mkdir Projects && cd Projects
>> Works fine
>>
>> $ python -m venv /path/to/new/ENV 
>> This invoked python 2.7, complaining about not knowing what a venv was. I 
>> also had to work out what the path should be. It would help beginners like 
>> me to have an example to follow, though I do recognise that you can choose 
>> other places to put the environment. Non-beginners who are up to choosing a 
>> different place are most likely to be able to work out the command to use 
>> so I suggest replacing this in the docs with:
>> $ python3 -m venv ~/Projects/env
>>
>> $ source env/bin/activate
>> OK
>>
>> (env)..$ pip install arches
>> A lot of stuff in the terminal that looks OK until:
>>
>> Building wheels for collected packages: pyshp, python-docx, PyLD, 
>> mapbox-vector-tile, python-slugify, future
>>   Running setup.py bdist_wheel for pyshp ... error
>>   Complete output from command /home/pat/Projects/env/bin/python3 -u -c 
>> "import setuptools, 
>> tokenize;__file__='/tmp/pip-build-0m39dqyo/pyshp/setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize,
>>  
>> 'open', open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n', 
>> '\n');f.close();exec(compile(code, __file__, 'exec'))" bdist_wheel -d 
>> /tmp/tmpkjnnk0xtpip-wheel- --python-tag cp36:
>>   /usr/lib/python3.6/distutils/dist.py:261: UserWarning: Unknown 
>> distribution option: 'long_description_content_type'
>>     warnings.warn(msg)
>>   usage: -c [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts] ...]
>>      or: -c --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...]
>>      or: -c --help-commands
>>      or: -c cmd --help
>>   
>>   error: invalid command 'bdist_wheel'
>>   
>>   ----------------------------------------
>>   Failed building wheel for pyshp
>>
>> Failed to build pyshp python-docx PyLD mapbox-vector-tile python-slugify 
>> future
>> With the majority repeated for each of the six wheels pyshp python-docx 
>> PyLD mapbox-vector-tile python-slugify future. After that the last bit 
>> went OK.
>>
>> I pressed on with
>> (env) pat@vboxub1804:~/Projects$ arches-project create my_project
>> but got a whole lot of trouble:
>>
>> No module named 'vine.five'
>> yarn install v1.22.5
>> warning package.json: No license field
>> info No lockfile found.
>> warning arches: No license field
>> [1/4] Resolving packages...
>> warning @mapbox/geojsonhint > jsonlint-lines > [email protected]: Package no 
>> longer supported. Contact [email protected] for more info.
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/bezier-spline
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/collect > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been 
>> renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/isobands > @turf/[email protected]: Module has 
>> been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module deprecated in favor of 
>> @turf/length
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-chunk > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>> deprecated in favor of @turf/length
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/point-grid > @turf/[email protected]: Module has 
>> been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed 
>> to @turf/line-to-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/nearest-point
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-overlap > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>> has been renamed to @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-slice > @turf/[email protected]: Module has 
>> been renamed to @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-split > @turf/[email protected]: Module has 
>> been renamed to @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed 
>> to @turf/polygon-to-line
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/point-on-feature
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/point-on-surface > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>> has been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/tag > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been 
>> renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/polygonize > polygonize > @turf/[email protected]: 
>> Module has been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/points-within-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/within > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been 
>> renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/unkink-polygon > simplepolygon > 
>> @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/unkink-polygon > simplepolygon > 
>> @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to @turf/points-within-polygon
>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/unkink-polygon > simplepolygon > @turf/within 
>> > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>> @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>> warning [email protected]: We have renamed the @ckeditor package. New 
>> versions are available under the @ckeditor4 name.
>> warning [email protected]: core-js@<3 is no longer maintained and not 
>> recommended for usage due to the number of issues. Please, upgrade your 
>> dependencies to the actual version of core-js@3.
>> [2/4] Fetching packages...
>> [3/4] Linking dependencies...
>> warning " > [email protected]" has unmet peer dependency 
>> "moment-timezone@^0.4.0".
>> [4/4] Building fresh packages...
>> success Saved lockfile.
>> Done in 86.87s.
>>
>> I have stopped for now. Can anybody help with what is going wrong here?
>>
>> Ta,
>> Pat
>>
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