Hello Adam,
Thanks for the encouragement.
Yes I am using Ubuntu Desktop.
I am still stuck on the yarn install.The error message is that "... amqp 
2.6.1 requires vine <5.0.0a,1 >= 1.1 but you have 5.0.0 which is 
incompatible. "
It seems unlikely that 5.0.0 is not less than 5.0.0a1 but perhaps some 
numeric parsing stops at a and/or the test should actually be <= 5.0.a1
Any help here much appreciated.
Best regards,
Pat
On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 12:07:51 AM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:

> Hey Pat, just out of curiosity, are you using Ubuntu Desktop? I have only 
> used the server distro for Ubuntu 18 which may be why I never encountered 
> the terminal issue.
>
> Your solution is the right one though: typically you can install a new 
> version of python alongside whatever comes with the OS and then just use 
> that version when you make the virtual environment (as you did).
>
> Glad you've been making your way through the install process.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 4:21:24 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Alina,
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I rather hope that having it in a virtual machine 
>> is irrelevant - it shouldn't know that it is in a VM!
>> I still get that pile of messages starting with the lack of a vine.five 
>> package.
>>
>> I distracted myself for a couple of days trying to upgrade Python 3.6.9 
>> that comes with Ubuntu 18.04 to Python 3.7. That stopped the terminal 
>> program from starting as it needs that specific version. While I could 
>> install a different terminal I am concerned that other bits of Ubuntu could 
>> be broken too.  In the end I don't think that matters as the virtual 
>> environment gets Python 3.7 in it as long as I set it up with:
>>
>> $ sudo apt install python3.7
>> $ sudo apt install python3.7-venv
>> $ python3.7 -m venv ~Projects/ENV
>>
>> Best wishes, have a good weekend,
>> Pat
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 12:59:21 AM UTC+1 Alina Myklebust 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Pat, 
>>>
>>> Nice to hear that there’s been some progress with your install.  I will 
>>> ask around to see if I can find someone with experience installing Arches 
>>> on a Vbox Virtual machine.  So far, I’m not aware of anyone, but I hope to 
>>> find some support for you. Keep us posted on your progress. Thanks!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Alina 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on 
>>> behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 11:29:13 AM
>>> *To:* Arches Project <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [Arches] Re: Installing Arches 5 on my laptop - problems 
>>>  
>>> A little progress.
>>>
>>> The failure to build wheels has been cured by invoking:
>>>
>>> $ pip install wheel
>>>
>>> before
>>>
>>> $pip install arches
>>>
>>> arches now installs OK. 
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 19, 2020 at 2:50:42 PM UTC+1 [email protected] 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> This really is not a DOS attack.
>>>
>>> I have installed the dependencies as per the script from github, and am 
>>> now trying to install Arches itself by following the documentation for V5.0.
>>>
>>> $ mkdir Projects && cd Projects
>>> Works fine
>>>
>>> $ python -m venv /path/to/new/ENV 
>>> This invoked python 2.7, complaining about not knowing what a venv was. 
>>> I also had to work out what the path should be. It would help beginners 
>>> like me to have an example to follow, though I do recognise that you can 
>>> choose other places to put the environment. Non-beginners who are up to 
>>> choosing a different place are most likely to be able to work out the 
>>> command to use so I suggest replacing this in the docs with:
>>> $ python3 -m venv ~/Projects/env
>>>
>>> $ source env/bin/activate
>>> OK
>>>
>>> (env)..$ pip install arches
>>> A lot of stuff in the terminal that looks OK until:
>>>
>>> Building wheels for collected packages: pyshp, python-docx, PyLD, 
>>> mapbox-vector-tile, python-slugify, future
>>>   Running setup.py bdist_wheel for pyshp ... error
>>>   Complete output from command /home/pat/Projects/env/bin/python3 -u -c 
>>> "import setuptools, 
>>> tokenize;__file__='/tmp/pip-build-0m39dqyo/pyshp/setup.py';f=getattr(tokenize,
>>>  
>>> 'open', open)(__file__);code=f.read().replace('\r\n', 
>>> '\n');f.close();exec(compile(code, __file__, 'exec'))" bdist_wheel -d 
>>> /tmp/tmpkjnnk0xtpip-wheel- --python-tag cp36:
>>>   /usr/lib/python3.6/distutils/dist.py:261: UserWarning: Unknown 
>>> distribution option: 'long_description_content_type'
>>>     warnings.warn(msg)
>>>   usage: -c [global_opts] cmd1 [cmd1_opts] [cmd2 [cmd2_opts] ...]
>>>      or: -c --help [cmd1 cmd2 ...]
>>>      or: -c --help-commands
>>>      or: -c cmd --help
>>>   
>>>   error: invalid command 'bdist_wheel'
>>>   
>>>   ----------------------------------------
>>>   Failed building wheel for pyshp
>>>
>>> Failed to build pyshp python-docx PyLD mapbox-vector-tile python-slugify 
>>> future
>>> With the majority repeated for each of the six wheels pyshp python-docx 
>>> PyLD mapbox-vector-tile python-slugify future. After that the last bit 
>>> went OK.
>>>
>>> I pressed on with
>>> (env) pat@vboxub1804:~/Projects$ arches-project create my_project
>>> but got a whole lot of trouble:
>>>
>>> No module named 'vine.five'
>>> yarn install v1.22.5
>>> warning package.json: No license field
>>> info No lockfile found.
>>> warning arches: No license field
>>> [1/4] Resolving packages...
>>> warning @mapbox/geojsonhint > jsonlint-lines > [email protected]: Package no 
>>> longer supported. Contact [email protected] for more info.
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/bezier-spline
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/collect > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been 
>>> renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/isobands > @turf/[email protected]: Module has 
>>> been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module deprecated in favor 
>>> of @turf/length
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-chunk > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>>> deprecated in favor of @turf/length
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/point-grid > @turf/[email protected]: Module has 
>>> been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed 
>>> to @turf/line-to-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/nearest-point
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-overlap > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>>> has been renamed to @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-slice > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>>> has been renamed to @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/line-split > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>>> has been renamed to @turf/nearest-point-on-line
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed 
>>> to @turf/polygon-to-line
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/point-on-feature
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/point-on-surface > @turf/[email protected]: Module 
>>> has been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/tag > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been 
>>> renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/polygonize > polygonize > @turf/[email protected]: 
>>> Module has been renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/points-within-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/within > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been 
>>> renamed to @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/unkink-polygon > simplepolygon > 
>>> @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/unkink-polygon > simplepolygon > 
>>> @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to @turf/points-within-polygon
>>> warning @turf/turf > @turf/unkink-polygon > simplepolygon > @turf/within 
>>> > @turf/[email protected]: Module has been renamed to 
>>> @turf/boolean-point-in-polygon
>>> warning [email protected]: We have renamed the @ckeditor package. New 
>>> versions are available under the @ckeditor4 name.
>>> warning [email protected]: core-js@<3 is no longer maintained and not 
>>> recommended for usage due to the number of issues. Please, upgrade your 
>>> dependencies to the actual version of core-js@3.
>>> [2/4] Fetching packages...
>>> [3/4] Linking dependencies...
>>> warning " > [email protected]" has unmet peer dependency 
>>> "moment-timezone@^0.4.0".
>>> [4/4] Building fresh packages...
>>> success Saved lockfile.
>>> Done in 86.87s.
>>>
>>> I have stopped for now. Can anybody help with what is going wrong here?
>>>
>>> Ta,
>>> Pat
>>>
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